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BODA
Join Date: Jul 2013
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Longtime card dealer Craig Roehrig of Verona, Wisconsin has had an established relationship with PSA for many years and his company, Quality Cards, is a PSA dealer. Roehrig has had a reputation for dealing in high-end cards for several decades and is known for being the submitter to PSA for the grading of what became the 3rd PSA 10 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle card in 1999. Roehrig's Ebay store user ID is quality*cards. Roehrig buys with an unknown Ebay ID, which is masked in the Vintage Card Prices website (VCP) as c***1. Alteration methods found so far include trimming, crease removal, coloring, stain removal/minimization and corner repair most likely from pressing. In researching the various PSA numerically numbered submission runs, there is a mixture of cards being sold by quality*cards and Memory Lane Auctions, all purchased by the c***1 masked ID or an unknown ID if purchased from an auction house. He has also purchased raw cards which were discovered using the free CardTarget.Com website. I will post some of those later. All altered cards found to date have been graded by PSA experts. In two weeks of research I have uncovered a minimal amount of cards that can be confirmed as altered. There are many higher end cards in his PSA submissions but the lack of first purchase data is the result of many of those being purchased raw or through avenues where the online purchase data is not stored. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Quality Cards is PSA Dealer (snipped from the PSA website) Link: ![]() ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ July 11, 2001 article regarding Roehrig's submission of what became a graded PSA 10 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle (snipped from the PSA website) Link: https://www.psacard.com/articles/art...brings-275-000 ![]() ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Altered cards: ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ PSA Cert #40804620 1949 Bowman Jackie Robinson #50 PSA Set Registry: none Value gain of $1,635.99 This card was purchased by masked VCP ID c***1 (Craig Roehrig) from Ebay seller teri781 as a PSA 5.5 for $1,964.00 on April 25, 2018. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b.../52402/PSA/5.5 Same card was sold by quality*cards (Craig Roehrig) as a PSA 7 for $3,599.99 on November 05, 2018. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...50/52402/PSA/7 Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers. Red box identifies trimmed bottom edge The top has likely been micro-trimmed as well. Top right corner has been sharpened. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ PSA Cert #42079894 1951 Bowman Dante Lavelli #73 - Population 1 of 3 PSA Set Registry: Mark W Value gain of $2,953.99 This card was purchased by masked VCP ID c***1 (Craig Roehrig) from Ebay seller kityoungcards as a PSA 6 for $42.00 on September 02, 2018. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/f...3/101046/PSA/6 Same card was sold by quality*cards (Craig Roehrig) as a PSA 9 for $2,995.99 on November 29, 2018. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/f...3/101046/PSA/9 Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers. Red box identifies where color has been added to minimize/mask obvious printing flaw. No back image provided with the first sale. ![]() ![]() ![]() ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ PSA Cert #42130117 1948 Leaf Babe Ruth #3 PSA Set Registry: none Value gain of $1,195.99 This card was purchased by masked VCP ID c***1 (Craig Roehrig) from Ebay seller scu316 as a PSA 2.5 for $1,000.00 on April 21, 2018. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b.../42417/PSA/2.5 Same card was sold by Ebay seller quality*cards (Craig Roehrig) as a PSA 3 for $2,195.99 on April 10, 2019. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...-3/42417/PSA/3 Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers. Red boxes identify corner work. I don't know enough to say what was done, but something was done. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ PSA Cert #42079884 1952 Bowman Small Frank Gifford #16 - Population 1 of 4 PSA Set Registry: The Hawkeye Collection Value gain of $4,384.01 This card was purchased by masked VCP ID c***1 (Craig Roehrig) from Ebay seller amerlegends as a PSA 6 for $319.99 on August 23, 2018. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/f...6/100760/PSA/6 Same card was sold by Memory Lane Auctions as a PSA 9 for $4,704.00 on April 06, 2019. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/f...6/100760/PSA/9 Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers. Red box identifies trimmed bottom edge and stain removed from back. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ PSA Cert #42079800 1952 Bowman Large Frank Gifford #16 PSA Set Registry: none Value gain of $1,108.80 This card was purchased by masked VCP ID c***1 (Craig Roehrig) from Ebay seller b-e-collectibles as a PSA 5 for $180.00 on April 21, 2018. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/f...6/154875/PSA/5 Same card was sold by Memory Lane Auctions as a PSA 8 for $1,288.80 on April 06, 2019. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/f...6/154875/PSA/8 Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers. Red box identifies trimmed right edge as well as what appears to be a spider crease on the back that looks to have been minimized or removed. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
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Another one on blast! Hope his business gets ruined!
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Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 3,558
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PSA doing what they do best, ripping off morons...
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PSA is like a 70s Porn Star...They don’t care if it’s trimmed or not. Being nice is something stupid people do to hedge their bets
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Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: couch in the basement
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BOOM! great work
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Join Date: Jun 2017
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Craig is one of the original PSA dealers, if memory serves.
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: NW Michigan
Posts: 9,638
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If I can see the fresher white cardboard edge in the scans......can't PSA see it in hand?
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Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: French underground
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Craig Roehrig was outed many years ago on the Collectors Universe forums, but at the time it seemed like conjucture as there was no hard proof. The letter from the "PSA Insider" names Rick Changie, one of Roehrig's long-time confidants and business partners, as a card doctor as well, so this is not entirely surprising. Card doctors, like wild dogs, often travel in packs.
It has been rumored for many years that Roehrig altered cards and, like TripleSSS, performed some of the most advanced work. It is also known that he has had a close relationship with some of PSA's graders. His PSA 10 1952 Topps Mantle, for instance, was initially in a PSA 9 holder and may have had some "work" done to it. Great work, corndog. Yet another PSA recommended card doctor has been caught. |
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Incredible work corndog!
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Looking for University of Memphis players in their college uniform especially DeAngelo Williams and Paxton Lynch. Mark McGwire on card autos especially 2002 and 2003, 1/1s and Toppsy Dynasty /10 from 2014 and 2018. |
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Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: French underground
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: PA
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It’s really disgusting and disgraceful what they do to not just the hobby, but to our history and americana.
Good work and thank you for doing this corndog
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Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: French underground
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I think you're correct. I may be off by a little but I want to say that Craig was one of the very first "PSA Authorized" dealers formally announced around 1993 or 1994. I think there were about a dozen of them named as such.
Last edited by pip; 02-08-2020 at 01:12 PM. |
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 22,475
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Damn, from my state.
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Join Date: Oct 2013
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Bought a few cards from that POS.
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BODA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: From a table in McDonalds, with lovely fake flowers on it.
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He has a beautiful home overlooking the tee box of the 10th hole at Hawks Landing Golf Club in Verona.
He has done well selling cardboard.
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Join Date: Jun 2017
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The sad thing about this hobby is that in the decades this has been going on, I don't think one dealer has exposed a card doctor, even though all the dealers know who the doctors are. Just live and let live, and profit from the price umbrella.
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"We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur, or sharpen it to crystal clarity." Opening narration, The Outer Limits. |
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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Nice work corndog!
Looks like I'll be adding to my collection of attorney general and DOJ complaints on Monday, when I reach out to Wisconsin.
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BODA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: From a table in McDonalds, with lovely fake flowers on it.
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Much appreciated!
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Join Date: May 2017
Location: Marlton, NJ - Less Than an Hour from the Millville Meteor!
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He's been on my "do not buy from" list since I started with graded cards.
I've noticed that on his ebay auctions you can't make the pictures larger either. If the pics don't grow, I must say no! |
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Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: French underground
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BODA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: From a table in McDonalds, with lovely fake flowers on it.
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PSA Cert #42918570
1952 Bowman Willie Mays #218 PSA Set Registry: JT's 52 Bowman BB Value gain of $6,483.60 This card was purchased by masked VCP ID c***1 (Craig Roehrig) from Ebay seller ja44 as a PSA 6 for $1,050.00 onDecember 07, 2018. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...18/69235/PSA/6 Same card was sold by Memory Lane Auctions as a PSA 8 for $7,533.60 on April 06, 2019. VCP link: https://vintagecardprices.com/card/b...18/69235/PSA/8 Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers. Red boxes identify sharpened corners (3 shown). What was done to improve them is debatable with internet images but they have been altered. Dark spot mostly removed from the left back. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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