ALERT: PWCC Selling Trimmed PSA 10 Next Day Luka Doncic Auto- Ends 1/22 - Page 2

3124508 on COMC · 01-14-2020, 08:51 PM

Shockingly, the Black Label Giannis Next Day that PWCC is selling is also trimmed.

(As an aside, look how clean that overlay is even when blown up.

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https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/2155247
https://www.ebay.com/itm/352930707404
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...day-1898823830

sethc1020 · 01-15-2020, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColemanCards

The fact that PWCC put the card back into auction to me is a sign that they have done their due diligence and are giving the card their blessing. Again, with all the trimming scandals that fall on their shoulders, it's hard for me to believe they would put the card back into auction if they believe it to be trimmed after you called attention to it.

This statement holds absolutely no water. Its been proven time and time again that they will knowingly sell trimmed, altered, "restored" cards and have no issues with it. If you truly stand behind and believe this statement you should have no issues whatsoever in purchasing this card.

Celticsfan748 · 01-15-2020, 08:47 AM

If you’re buying 10s most likely they are trimmed. It’s crazy how it’s flooding into modern product now but it’s well known in the vintage market which is why you’re better off just buying low grades knowing they aren’t altered. Lots of money to be made with a simple trim tool, pretty crazy.

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Jay9Suited · 01-15-2020, 10:49 AM

You've got to be otherworldly dumb to be buying black label next day autos. Once again, great work OP.

patchgenie · 01-15-2020, 10:55 AM

psa has less credibility each day.

LondonGames · 01-16-2020, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColemanCards

Good day, and good luck!"

Pretty close to a god bless. Sorry to see the card you have such strong ties to called out for evidence of trimming. Oh, you are just a random guy looking to have deep meaningful conversations via phone and PM and blessing people for the first time ever out of the blue. Scummy circles get called out.

Keep up the great work OP.

220sports · 01-16-2020, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patchgenie

psa has less credibility each day.

Isn't that Giannis BGS?

3124508 on COMC · 01-17-2020, 02:14 PM

Looks like PWCC is letting the trimmed PSA 10 Luka Next Day and the trimmed Black Label Next Day run to completion. Buyer beware.

ThoseBackPages · 01-17-2020, 06:21 PM

Sadly....

SIDA gonna SIDA

Pblev26 · 01-22-2020, 02:41 PM

Just came across both Next Days...they end tonight

KidKards101 · 01-22-2020, 02:52 PM

I read a couple of articles that the owner of PWCC was outed by BO members for auctioning hundreds of trimmed/altered cards from "scissor hands" (forgot his name) and is/was cooperating with the police to refund buyers to those who have bought cards from him.

Now that it is known PWCC has been selling trimmed/altered cards and caught shilling their own auctions too at times, why are they still accepting consignments of trimmed/altered cards after being in the spotlight? Do they innocently believe that all their current auctioned cards were untouched? I'm guessing this falls under just because a professional third party grading co. says so (graded with a numerical number and no notes of alteration), then it is ok to keep doing this.

3124508 on COMC · 01-22-2020, 07:31 PM

PWCC cares only slightly more than Probstein. They’ve recently listed a bunch of cards that are owned by Evan Mathis in the Vault. They have Gary Moser altered pre-war cards in the Vault, one of which has been glued back together. And they continue to sell large quantities of cards they know are trimmed.

Brye86 · 01-22-2020, 11:46 PM

This is getting worse and worse by the day. It's not just PSA though. "They are just the worst" BGS and SGC have been known to grade trimmed cards as well.. It's quite clear PSA has no processes involved to check past submitted cards or scans of cards.. If you look at how slightly trimmed these cards are "some are actually very hard to tell unless you're breaking it down how people are in this forum" It very likely meets the card size standard.

What is everyone doing with the PSA cards in their collection? Are you all still collecting and buying PSA cards? I don't even know what to do anymore lol

artyman60 · 01-23-2020, 06:56 AM

Anyone looking to move rare or hard to find keith van horn cards? I am also in the market for anything serial numbered of his. Thanks guys

Jasondr91 · 01-23-2020, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sethc1020

This statement holds absolutely no water. Its been proven time and time again that they will knowingly sell trimmed, altered, "restored" cards and have no issues with it. If you truly stand behind and believe this statement you should have no issues whatsoever in purchasing this card.

Very well said. PWCC......salt of the earth.

Thanks again 3124508, as always. You provide simple proof.....before and after. What more can we as collectors/buyers ask for?

01-14-2020, 08:51 PM	#26
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,482	Shockingly, the Black Label Giannis Next Day that PWCC is selling is also trimmed. (As an aside, look how clean that overlay is even when blown up. ) https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/2155247 https://www.ebay.com/itm/352930707404 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...day-1898823830 __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud Last edited by 3124508 on COMC; 01-14-2020 at 09:32 PM.

01-17-2020, 02:14 PM	#33
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,482	Looks like PWCC is letting the trimmed PSA 10 Luka Next Day and the trimmed Black Label Next Day run to completion. Buyer beware. __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud

01-17-2020, 06:21 PM	#34
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 91,389 ThoseBackPages	Sadly.... SIDA gonna SIDA __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

01-22-2020, 02:41 PM	#35
Pblev26 Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Posts: 79	Just came across both Next Days...they end tonight __________________ High end collector of Jordan/Kobe/Lebron/Durant with some Kawhi/Giannis/Curry sprinkled in. Always willing to trade and talk about the hobby

01-22-2020, 07:31 PM	#37
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,482	PWCC cares only slightly more than Probstein. They’ve recently listed a bunch of cards that are owned by Evan Mathis in the Vault. They have Gary Moser altered pre-war cards in the Vault, one of which has been glued back together. And they continue to sell large quantities of cards they know are trimmed. __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud

01-15-2020, 08:47 AM	#28
Celticsfan748 Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 326 Westernmacardfan	If you’re buying 10s most likely they are trimmed. It’s crazy how it’s flooding into modern product now but it’s well known in the vintage market which is why you’re better off just buying low grades knowing they aren’t altered. Lots of money to be made with a simple trim tool, pretty crazy. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

01-15-2020, 10:49 AM	#29
Jay9Suited Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,264	You've got to be otherworldly dumb to be buying black label next day autos. Once again, great work OP.

01-15-2020, 10:55 AM	#30
patchgenie Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 7,134 americansportscards	psa has less credibility each day.

01-22-2020, 02:52 PM	#36
KidKards101 Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 1,686	I read a couple of articles that the owner of PWCC was outed by BO members for auctioning hundreds of trimmed/altered cards from "scissor hands" (forgot his name) and is/was cooperating with the police to refund buyers to those who have bought cards from him. Now that it is known PWCC has been selling trimmed/altered cards and caught shilling their own auctions too at times, why are they still accepting consignments of trimmed/altered cards after being in the spotlight? Do they innocently believe that all their current auctioned cards were untouched? I'm guessing this falls under just because a professional third party grading co. says so (graded with a numerical number and no notes of alteration), then it is ok to keep doing this.

01-22-2020, 11:46 PM	#38
Brye86 Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 48	This is getting worse and worse by the day. It's not just PSA though. "They are just the worst" BGS and SGC have been known to grade trimmed cards as well.. It's quite clear PSA has no processes involved to check past submitted cards or scans of cards.. If you look at how slightly trimmed these cards are "some are actually very hard to tell unless you're breaking it down how people are in this forum" It very likely meets the card size standard. What is everyone doing with the PSA cards in their collection? Are you all still collecting and buying PSA cards? I don't even know what to do anymore lol

01-23-2020, 06:56 AM	#39
artyman60 Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 149 artyman60	Anyone looking to move rare or hard to find keith van horn cards? I am also in the market for anything serial numbered of his. Thanks guys