2019/20 ¤Regular season chit-chat thread¤ ™

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

The dudes constantly whining about Simmons or the 6ers will ignore this every time..

I actually hope Simmons goes to GS for D. Lo (and probably another piece) it would be ridiculous. Even Draymond Green was a Superstar with Steph and Klay coming off pin downs.

You called it. Check 3 posts down.

I at least realize that he has flaws in his game.

Certain people can’t even recognize when he does well.

Ohh well.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

Celtics need a big. They're too small to get rebounds when they really need them and to help with second chances on offense as well as a physical presence on defense.

Who do they trade for a guy that’s good enough to make a difference?

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Who do they trade for a guy that’s good enough to make a difference?

Drummond could be a good fit...he's not ball dominant. Though I'm not entirely sure what the C's cap structure currently looks like.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by tjforce

You called it. Check 3 posts down.

I at least realize that he has flaws in his game.

Certain people can’t even recognize when he does well.

Ohh well.

LOL. It's hilarious.

It must be tough to cherry pick Giannis and Luka as your favorite players and just kick back and look down at others for some undeserved reason.

Fandom is funny

I like those Simmons to GS rumors though. Or I've said before if Philly believe in Simmons they need to build around him better.

[drobfan8]

Lillard is having a rough season, although POR are lacking depth.

[daeve]

Originally Posted by tjforce

You called it. Check 3 posts down.

I at least realize that he has flaws in his game.

Certain people can’t even recognize when he does well.

Ohh well.

Alright well since you asked for it. No other All-Star players get mentioned on these boards as notably "doing well" for a 19-9-3 game except Simmons. He's a PG. 3 assists and 3 turnovers. 2 missed lobs...and I love that you specifically pointed out his 1 made free throw... yes, pointing that out as a positive on a guy who went 1-4 from the line. Honestly I applaud that because that's likely the first time that's ever been done on this forum. At least in earnest.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by daeve

Alright well since you asked for it. No other All-Star players get mentioned on these boards as notably "doing well" for a 19-9-3 game except Simmons. He's a PG. 3 assists and 3 turnovers. 2 missed lobs...and I love that you specifically pointed out his 1 made free throw... yes, pointing that out as a positive on a guy who went 1-4 from the line. Honestly I applaud that because that's likely the first time that's ever been done on this forum. At least in earnest.

OHHHHHH!!!!!

Really gave me my medicine there.

While we're at it... no other member on this forum feels the need to rain on the parade of other members here when a guy they root for does something like beats their biggest rival or comes through in the clutch quite like you.

I'm sorry he doesn't put up stat lines like Trae does in a home loss against a team who is missing their second best player and who's best player goes 9-34, while having the worst record in basketball. Because that def gets celebrated on Blowout.

No, I just rejoiced in the fact that one of my favorite players in the league helped clinch a win against his rival team. And I did it in a way that wasn't offensive or derogatory to the Celtics. Sorry that triggers you to the point of needed to speak up and try to undermine my enjoyment of it (P.S. It didn't work).

[brothertona]

What does Trae have to do with this?


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[tjforce]

Originally Posted by brothertona

What does Trae have to do with this?


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A lot of people were talking about Trae yesterday because he had a huge game that resulted in a loss. I think it's fine to get excited about that, and didn't see our friend getting all bent out of shape about it.

But if we're going to get excited about putting up stats in a bad loss, then it shouldn't be such a problem to get excited performing well in crunch time during a win against a team's number 1 rival.

No shade at Trae, I love what he's doing, I was just making a point.

[Jopeal]

Chris Paul and OKC are really about to improve to 22-16

I’m thoroughly impressed.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

Chris Paul and OKC are really about to improve to 22-16

I’m thoroughly impressed.

If Portland is the most disappointing team then OKC might be the best surprise.

[the27guy]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

Chris Paul and OKC are really about to improve to 22-16

I’m thoroughly impressed.

One of the surprises if the season. The crazy thing is that I think it’s real. They’re just legitimately good.

[hanstess]

CP just dribbled through a player’s legs on his way to a layup

[ninjacookies]

^ Stole a page out of the Trae handbook.

This was a thorough spanking. SGA continues to make the game look easy.

[tazz1213]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

^ Stole a page out of the Trae handbook.

This was a thorough spanking. SGA continues to make the game look easy.

? Out of the Trae handbook? I have seen CP3 and others do that going back years. Awesome move but he is certainly not an originator. I would give that credit to The Professor (And1 fame). There is a great video of him showing and teaching Harden some great between the legs misdirection drills. Too bad he wasn't taller and a better shooter

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by tjforce

OHHHHHH!!!!!

Really gave me my medicine there.

While we're at it... no other member on this forum feels the need to rain on the parade of other members here when a guy they root for does something like beats their biggest rival or comes through in the clutch quite like you.

I'm sorry he doesn't put up stat lines like Trae does in a home loss against a team who is missing their second best player and who's best player goes 9-34, while having the worst record in basketball. Because that def gets celebrated on Blowout.

No, I just rejoiced in the fact that one of my favorite players in the league helped clinch a win against his rival team. And I did it in a way that wasn't offensive or derogatory to the Celtics. Sorry that triggers you to the point of needed to speak up and try to undermine my enjoyment of it (P.S. It didn't work).

It would be interesting to see what kind of lines Simmons would have if he was on some garbage team as a usage monster, I'm sure he'd take his lumps but you'd have to think his averages would be insane. Especially when they get in those high tempo let's put on a show games compared to the Philly style of actually playing defense.

Edit
Is Simmons really 90 something in usage? Some of the names getting more ball than him are hilarious.

Is Philly really 18th in pace?

Shock, Trae is way up there in usage and ATL are 4th in pace.

Good to see Simmons is gonna be an All Star again. He's overrachieved for what I thought he'd be. A 1 time All Star.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by tazz1213

? Out of the Trae handbook? I have seen CP3 and others do that going back years. Awesome move but he is certainly not an originator. I would give that credit to The Professor (And1 fame). There is a great video of him showing and teaching Harden some great between the legs misdirection drills. Too bad he wasn't taller and a better shooter

Twas tongue in cheek....'cuz Trae's done that move about 4 or 5 times already this year. Of course CP3 is the godfather, and he's still putting in work. Professor is my man, but he got majority of his stuff from HotSizzle and Skip to my Lou who were working those mixtape tours well before my boi from Oregon hopped on. Damn. Now I feel boomer af.

Leave that last part of your statement out of the professorlive comment section though...his 12 year old followers are convinced he could school prime Jordan or Kobe in an actual NBA match.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

It would be interesting to see what kind of lines Simmons would have if he was on some garbage team as a usage monster, I'm sure he'd take his lumps but you'd have to think his averages would be insane. Especially when they get in those high tempo let's put on a show games compared to the Philly style of actually playing defense.

Edit
Is Simmons really 90 something in usage? Some of the names getting more ball than him are hilarious.

Is Philly really 18th in pace?

Shock, Trae is way up there in usage and ATL are 4th in pace.

Good to see Simmons is gonna be an All Star again. He's overrachieved for what I thought he'd be. A 1 time All Star.

He's had a much different start to his career than a lot of the guys who were as hyped as him, in that from day one he was leading a contenders.

I think a lot of what we see in his game reflects that (the good and the bad).

Will it pay off? That will be determined over the next 10 or so Aprils, Mays and Junes.

[tlm7995]

Originally Posted by tjforce

I hope you all watched as Simmons and the 76ers closed out the Celtics without Embiid.

Just as a recap:

With 4:30 left it was a 96-94 game.

A Ben Simmons hook shot, Free throw, forced lose ball that led to two Richardson free throws, and another hook shot over the next two minutes closed the door.

And just 4 hours ago we were talking about blowing it all up.

TJ,

Please forgive my confrontational tone in prior messages, and perhaps in this one. I will try to communicate effectively. You analysis of Ben Simmons is completely incongruous with the intelligent analysis you exhibit among every other area on these boards. You are a very smart guy (not just about basketball). In my very cynical nature that I've developed from these boards, it appears that you just spin anything to the positive with Simmons in an attempt to preserve Simmons values. Would you mind sharing your Simmons collection because perhaps you truly are just a fan and you have homer glasses on.

Regarding the game last night. The Celtics were playing the 2nd game of a back-to-back on the road while the 76ers had 2 nights off. Josh Richardson came out making shots and set the tone for team. He led the 76ers in points and assists for the game. Why did you never mention this? With 3:25 to play in the 4th quarter, after splitting a pair of free throws (making him 1-4 for the game), the 76ers literally took the ball out of Simmons hands. Perhaps Brett Brown just thought Josh Richardson was a better decision maker, or perhaps he was concerned about Ben Simmons missing more free throws. But regardless, Ben went 1-2 for the rest of the game with zero assists. He didn't close out anything. Josh Richardson baked that cake.

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

Big win for the 76ers. Hard fought game all around. Horford played with an energy I don’t think I’ve seen all season. Simmons had a solid game, and Josh Richardson had a mini takeover there.

I saw on BO recently that Jaylen Brown is good... lol k.

I pointed out how Jaylen Brown's cards sell for 1/4 of what Ben Simmons does. Last night he kinda showed why, lol. Regardless, Jaylen is scoring 20 ppg on 50% shooting and 39% from 3pt. Perhaps it's why he leads Ben Simmons in All-Star voting?

[tlm7995]

Originally Posted by the27guy

One of the surprises if the season. The crazy thing is that I think it’s real. They’re just legitimately good.

Alright, the27guy jinx is officially on. Sell OKC.

If you look at post 378 of this thread, the27guy says Phoenix is "legitimately good." They have since gone to the basement where they've lived for years.

And as some remember, 27guy was questioning Lakers playoff chances at the beginning of this season.

I'm just having fun man. I've made some bad predictions this year too

[yiguiri2002]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

It would be interesting to see what kind of lines Simmons would have if he was on some garbage team as a usage monster, I'm sure he'd take his lumps but you'd have to think his averages would be insane. Especially when they get in those high tempo let's put on a show games compared to the Philly style of actually playing defense.

Edit
Is Simmons really 90 something in usage? Some of the names getting more ball than him are hilarious.

Is Philly really 18th in pace?

Shock, Trae is way up there in usage and ATL are 4th in pace.

Good to see Simmons is gonna be an All Star again. He's overrachieved for what I thought he'd be. A 1 time All Star.

Simmons problem is different. He needs to increase his usage - why on earth is Josh Richardson finishing more possessions than him?

Ben has the talent to do more. They'll need it if they wanna make it to the ECF and beyond.

[rustywest]

Long time Thunder fan BUT jumped ship to Houston with Russ as my No. 1 team. I still love OKC (Big Stevo) as my 2nd team. I watch every game for both teams on League Pass but when they clash I'm with Russ. That's my psyche. Its tough watching two teams religiously, I sometimes find myself up late at night getting it done. I couldn't live with myself if I missed a game involving Russ or Steve

A few thoughts on today's game....

I'll admit it, the tribute video made me tear up. Its what being a fan is all about. Love what Russ did for OKC. He pissed blood for the jersey. He saved the city from oblivion when he re-signed and then gave them all an MVP season to NEVER FORGET.

But incredibly disappointing game. Anybody not named Russell or Clemons in garbage time was abysmal for the Rockets. Russ was fantastic, he should've had double digit assists but his teammates were so minging

Rivers was the worst, Capela fluffed multiple bunnies & James had a shocker.

Big Steve always destroys Capela, man he is looking strong. This man deserves credit for how good the Thunder are currently, not just CP3 & SGA (guys who get all the praise) and lets not forget Dennis. Dennis is for real! But Adams is just fantastic. Almost zero chance Presti trades him... Adams can guard Embiid, McGee, Dwight, Harrell pretty much anybody and ruffle them feathers. Only guy he historically struggles against is Gobert and KAT but only one of those guys matters

You can see the problem when the Rockets fire up bricks from the outside. Russ needs shooters who pull the trigger immediately when he drives and kicks. House, Rivers & PJ pump fake way too much when they have open looks. That's why McLemore is doing so well because he doesn't hesitate. Gordon doesn't either but he does have a tremendous pump fake....

Concerned about EG, out with knee soreness already....

Think about the position OKC are in now and the future with all the picks, tradable contracts and dynamic young guys currently locked down. Take a look at the way this Franchise is run and how on earth Presti hasn't won Executive of the Year by now??? We look at chips as the be all and end all in this age of gratification. I don't. I see sustained excellence and I'd take that in an instance.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by tlm7995

TJ,

Please forgive my confrontational tone in prior messages, and perhaps in this one. I will try to communicate effectively. You analysis of Ben Simmons is completely incongruous with the intelligent analysis you exhibit among every other area on these boards. You are a very smart guy (not just about basketball). In my very cynical nature that I've developed from these boards, it appears that you just spin anything to the positive with Simmons in an attempt to preserve Simmons values. Would you mind sharing your Simmons collection because perhaps you truly are just a fan and you have homer glasses on.

Regarding the game last night. The Celtics were playing the 2nd game of a back-to-back on the road while the 76ers had 2 nights off. Josh Richardson came out making shots and set the tone for team. He led the 76ers in points and assists for the game. Why did you never mention this? With 3:25 to play in the 4th quarter, after splitting a pair of free throws (making him 1-4 for the game), the 76ers literally took the ball out of Simmons hands. Perhaps Brett Brown just thought Josh Richardson was a better decision maker, or perhaps he was concerned about Ben Simmons missing more free throws. But regardless, Ben went 1-2 for the rest of the game with zero assists. He didn't close out anything. Josh Richardson baked that cake.

1. I can care less about values... there are two guys that I collect (not to flip, but to collect), Simmons and LeBron. I'm very selective about when I buy Simmons, and I can assure you that I only buy when there's a major dip or something is selling under market... I'm far ahead at this point. If the market dives on him I'm fine with that, just means I get more rare stuff. And in the end, if he's ever winning championships, the value will be there. If not, then I have a good PC.


2. As for last night... if scoring 5 of the games 7 points in a two minute span to basically shut the door isn't getting the job done, I don't know what is. And those other 2 points? They were Richardson free throws that came on a loose ball foul caused when Simmons stripped Kemba one-on-one.

Again, I never said he owned the entire game or that he was even the best player on the floor that night, but I was happy to see that he got the job done. I've also been critical in the past when he shoots 8 times in a loss.I see huge stat lines in losses get celebrated here every day, and I'm fine with that. Maybe I'm just more concerned with winning and losing then most here.

[tlm7995]

Originally Posted by tjforce

1. I can care less about values... there are two guys that I collect (not to flip, but to collect), Simmons and LeBron. I'm very selective about when I buy Simmons, and I can assure you that I only buy when there's a major dip or something is selling under market... I'm far ahead at this point. If the market dives on him I'm fine with that, just means I get more rare stuff. And in the end, if he's ever winning championships, the value will be there. If not, then I have a good PC.


2. As for last night... if scoring 5 of the games 7 points in a two minute span to basically shut the door isn't getting the job done, I don't know what is. And those other 2 points? They were Richardson free throws that came on a loose ball foul caused when Simmons stripped Kemba one-on-one.

Again, I never said he owned the entire game or that he was even the best player on the floor that night, but I was happy to see that he got the job done. I've also been critical in the past when he shoots 8 times in a loss.I see huge stat lines in losses get celebrated here every day, and I'm fine with that. Maybe I'm just more concerned with winning and losing then most here.

I understand. Thanks man. If you really don't care about Simmons values at all, then I suggest you just block me and Daeve. Why wouldn't you? You've just seemed to get really upset over our comments the last few days. It doesn't seem worth it if all you care about are the cards and rooting for Simmons. Why do you care what we think? IDk it's just food for thought.

[the27guy]

Originally Posted by tlm7995

Alright, the27guy jinx is officially on. Sell OKC.

If you look at post 378 of this thread, the27guy says Phoenix is "legitimately good." They have since gone to the basement where they've lived for years.

And as some remember, 27guy was questioning Lakers playoff chances at the beginning of this season.

I'm just having fun man. I've made some bad predictions this year too

This made me laugh.

You may be onto something here.... it hasn't been a good year for me.