Well, Thats new. Autopen Memorabilia

[Grid]

I haven't seen this discussed before. I just stumbled onto this seller. Everything he is selling has the "Signatures are taken from an authentic exemplar and digitally transferred"

Reprint signed photos have been around forever. Usually you can spot a forged auto when you see it. But we now can cheaply scan a legit authentic signature, and transfer that onto a jersey, ball, helmet or anything we want?

Scary for those of us that collect memorabilia

https://www.ebay.com/sch/usconsignco...rt=nc&LH_BIN=1

[p.thomaston]

That's unbelievable, looks like he's already sold a framed MJ and Aaron Rodgers jersey for nearly $500 and $700 plus $130 for shipping.

[bradjames12]

Wasn't there a Dak Prescott autopen controversy at some point?

Edit.. just found it: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...hlight=autopen

[49erRCCollector]

Garbage. Thinly veiled future fakes.

[nabzy28]

Well, now, that looks like a problem.

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So, it'd be my guess that they can resize, change angle, change color/ink and, when caught, just find a new authentic example to start all over again. If so, and that's actually ink in some form or fashion (not just printer ink that would actually be identifiable under scrutiny), this presents major issues.

[KevJo]

I have seen a flood of Khalil Mack Autographs listed from Taiwan, that look good. I have been very very suspicious that they might be an Autopen or facsimile.

Kevin

[KevJo]

https://www.ebay.com/sch/ianhsu78021...p2047675.l2562

[tier1dc]

Originally Posted by Grid

I haven't seen this discussed before. I just stumbled onto this seller. Everything he is selling has the "Signatures are taken from an authentic exemplar and digitally transferred"

Reprint signed photos have been around forever. Usually you can spot a forged auto when you see it. But we now can cheaply scan a legit authentic signature, and transfer that onto a jersey, ball, helmet or anything we want?

Scary for those of us that collect memorabilia

https://www.ebay.com/sch/usconsignco...rt=nc&LH_BIN=1

for the 'man cave'

shudder.

[Soxfanguy]

Originally Posted by bradjames12

Wasn't there a Dak Prescott autopen controversy at some point?

Edit.. just found it: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...hlight=autopen

That's why I hate him. Wish he would have got jail time, teach him a lesson

[Grid]

Originally Posted by nabzy28

Well, now, that looks like a problem.

-------------edit

So, it'd be my guess that they can resize, change angle, change color/ink and, when caught, just find a new authentic example to start all over again. If so, and that's actually ink in some form or fashion (not just printer ink that would actually be identifiable under scrutiny), this presents major issues.

Bingo!

As long as they dont get lazy like Dak with his autopen, they can keep switching things up and cranking out anything they want for as long as they want.

Sure, this seller who is making them is saying that are facsimile. But will the next seller?

[Grid]

Originally Posted by KevJo

I have seen a flood of Khalil Mack Autographs listed from Taiwan, that look good. I have been very very suspicious that they might be an Autopen or facsimile.

Kevin

Ive seen these too, theyu show up in my feed all the time. At least I can ignore faked photos from overseas. Just under the assumption the auto is printed into the photo, even if that is not the case.

But a 3D object? That's briging it to a whole new level, as most would never assume a "transferred" legit auto onto a ball or helmet was even a thing.

[Soxfanguy]

Originally Posted by Grid

Ive seen these too, theyu show up in my feed all the time. At least I can ignore faked photos from overseas. Just under the assumption the auto is printed into the photo, even if that is not the case.

But a 3D object? That's briging it to a whole new level, as most would never assume a "transferred" legit auto onto a ball or helmet was even a thing.

I guess you could deflate the ball? Not sure how a helmet would work though

[Bassplayah101]

Technology is beginning to make it so you simply cannot trust that a signature is authentic.

Anything for a buck, right?

[discostu]

* Insert sad clown horn sound here. *

[KevJo]

Originally Posted by Grid

Ive seen these too, theyu show up in my feed all the time. At least I can ignore faked photos from overseas. Just under the assumption the auto is printed into the photo, even if that is not the case.

But a 3D object? That's briging it to a whole new level, as most would never assume a "transferred" legit auto onto a ball or helmet was even a thing.

Yes agree, very scary and opens pandora's box.

Kevin

[BigL7370]

I assume the eBay images are stock photos, like it may have been mentioned - I do wonder what the facsimile items really look like in-hand.

[SDcardguy24]

I wonder how easy these are to spot in person. Those look like stock photos for some. Like the Josh Jacobs jersey they show has a beckett authentication hologram on it

Originally Posted by KevJo

I have seen a flood of Khalil Mack Autographs listed from Taiwan, that look good. I have been very very suspicious that they might be an Autopen or facsimile.

Kevin

Originally Posted by KevJo

https://www.ebay.com/sch/ianhsu78021...p2047675.l2562

Those have been around for years I usually ignored them. They always looked and were priced too good to be true. Never thought the process would be extended to things like jerseys, balls, and helmets too though

[altaeria]

I wonder if Dak fans would buy a relic card with a piece of an autopen? Granted, how would we know for sure if that is the actual autopen that he used anyway??

[Grid]

Originally Posted by BigL7370

I assume the eBay images are stock photos, like it may have been mentioned - I do wonder what the facsimile items really look like in-hand.

Take one for the team! Buy the MJ ball and report back to base