Target putting up these signs, apparently..Pack Searchers!

[premium1981]

Target did not make that sign. Looks like it is cut out with scissors and covered in packing tape instead of laminated. That is not a commercial retail sign. Hats off though, to whomever placed it there. Probably the person who originally posted the picture, placed the sign.

[pewe]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

I'll take the bullet..... What exactly is wrong with the sign? Maybe the punctuation I could see but grammatically there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with it. Trespassed from a store is a real term btw.

"...charged with theft and trespassed from all target [sic] stores."... guess I'm still trying to figure out what that means...

[VeedonFleece]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

I'll take the bullet..... Trespassed from a store is a real term btw.

Hmm. The quick research I've done suggests this has only been in usage for the last 30 years or so, and appears to have originated in the southern US.

More language butchery imo.

[pewe]

Originally Posted by VeedonFleece

Hmm. The quick research I've done suggests this has only been in usage for the last 30 years or so, and appears to have originated in the southern US.

More language butchery imo.

what does it mean??? non-obvious crossover of language... replacing the word with its definition doesn't make any sense to me... "enter the owner's land or property without permission from all Target stores."

The archaic literary definition is "commit an offense against (a person or a set of rules)."... but that doesn't fit the sentence structure, either

[1989FF]

Originally Posted by PhillipeCraig

I’ve long advocated for keeping hanger boxes, blasters and anything more expensive locked up the same way other high-theft items. Obviously keeping $2.99 retail packs and even fat packs behind lock and key would be a logistical nightmare, but if you start with the hanger box price point (~ $10) I think that would be an effective deterrent.

I realize leaving fat packs unsecured leaves them exposed for pack searchers, but the fix for that is on Topps: put fat packs in a rigid package. I’d pay the extra $0.15 that would cost in packaging, and that’s a very liberal estimate in the cost add...

Our largest Target in town locks up all hanger boxes and any hanging packs with locks on the pegs. Many times I've left empty handed as getting someone to unlock the packs took longer than I was willing to wait. I'm all for putting them in rigid cases like I saw our Wal Mart did for certain lip balm.

[pewe]

Originally Posted by VeedonFleece

Hmm. The quick research I've done suggests this has only been in usage for the last 30 years or so, and appears to have originated in the southern US.

More language butchery imo.

OK... you made me look... assume you found this (or something like it): https://www.vocabulary.com/articles/...be-trespassed/

This one is a tough stretch on the use of the word... but I guess some people are trying to use it to mean "banned"... wow

[Peties Army]

Originally Posted by PhillipeCraig

I’ve long advocated for keeping hanger boxes, blasters and anything more expensive locked up the same way other high-theft items. Obviously keeping $2.99 retail packs and even fat packs behind lock and key would be a logistical nightmare, but if you start with the hanger box price point (~ $10) I think that would be an effective deterrent.

I realize leaving fat packs unsecured leaves them exposed for pack searchers, but the fix for that is on Topps: put fat packs in a rigid package. I’d pay the extra $0.15 that would cost in packaging, and that’s a very liberal estimate in the cost add...

So you want them to lock up eveything 10 dollars and over? Man going to be long shopping trips to target

[1989FF]

I assume the local store manager made it. Maybe prompted due to the excel rep complaining about opened packs. I know Target does not own the packs and reps get paid peanuts etc. If I was store manager I'd do the same. "Those types" are not your "Target" customer base. Whoever did it, props to you. It's better than doing nothing.

[VeedonFleece]

Originally Posted by pewe

OK... you made me look... assume you found this (or something like it): https://www.vocabulary.com/articles/...be-trespassed/

This one is a tough stretch on the use of the word... but I guess some people are trying to use it to mean "banned"... wow

Different site, same article:

https://www.visualthesaurus.com/cm/d...be-trespassed/

[TimBuckTwo]

FAKE NEWS !!

Poor capitalization. Good idea though.

[bustsomewax]

Not enough. Hang them and make an example out of them.

[chezball]

Pack searchers should be sent to gitmo.

[PoPCulture]

Originally Posted by 1989FF

I assume the local store manager made it. Maybe prompted due to the excel rep complaining about opened packs. I know Target does not own the packs and reps get paid peanuts etc. If I was store manager I'd do the same. "Those types" are not your "Target" customer base. Whoever did it, props to you. It's better than doing nothing.

My money is on a customer or the trading card rep making it. Assuming Target Corp has a similar policy as Walmart and does not allow Corporate policy signing made at store level. The Store Manager should also know that his/her company refers to customers as guests.

[PhillipeCraig]

No, this suggestion is limited to sports cards, which are regarded as "high-theft" items. I think that's pretty clear from my comment.

Retail stores lock up (or employ other restrictive measures) with other high-theft items, such as condoms, razors, and certain baby products. Doesn't seem to impact those sales and data shows it goes a long way toward protecting the retailer's bottom line -- which is all that matters. Target won't do this to help the hobbyist combat the pack-searchers, rather they'll do it to protect their revenue. However, since cards are a third-party vendor item, I do wonder how theft impacts Target vs. the vendor. It all depends on who is losing money due to theft.

Originally Posted by Peties Army

So you want them to lock up eveything 10 dollars and over? Man going to be long shopping trips to target

[PoPCulture]

Originally Posted by PhillipeCraig

No, this suggestion is limited to sports cards, which are regarded as "high-theft" items. I think that's pretty clear from my comment.

Retail stores lock up (or employ other restrictive measures) with other high-theft items, such as condoms, razors, and certain baby products. Doesn't seem to impact those sales and data shows it goes a long way toward protecting the retailer's bottom line -- which is all that matters. Target won't do this to help the hobbyist combat the pack-searchers, rather they'll do it to protect their revenue. However, since cards are a third-party vendor item, I do wonder how theft impacts Target vs. the vendor. It all depends on who is losing money due to theft.

The vendor loses the cost. The only thing the store loses is potential sales. This category does not add to shrink at all. The store does not pay the vendor cost until the item is scanned at the register.
Locking up the categories like razors does impact sales and data shows that but the store owns this merchandise so in many areas they have to make the decision to lock up. This is a very tough decision for most stores, having to balance theft vs convenience, and is usually heavily debated between the Management and Asset Protection teams.

[bradu]

hope it's real. I think it would help crack down regardless of if they'd enforce it. And one incorrect comma doesn't make it seem fake to me, hell Dairy Queen has signs nationwide that read $5 buck lunch. I always poke fun at that when I order it, I say "can I get the five dollar buck lunch please?"

[Keyser Soze]

Originally Posted by rcmb3220

So someone with terrible grammar made their own sign and hung it up at the local Target?

At least it's a start.

[scottmarkman]

I did complain on Twitter a few days ago to Topps & Target. Maybe it paid off.

[shanks25]

Wow! Are people really debating real vs. fake on the sign? And questioning grammar on a Target sign. Who freaking cares!?!? At least something is better than nothing...

[pewe]

Originally Posted by shanks25

Wow! Are people really debating real vs. fake on the sign? And questioning grammar on a Target sign. Who freaking cares!?!? At least something is better than nothing...

Not enough baseball, so we are devolving into lord of the flies... winter will be even worse

[1989FF]

Originally Posted by bradu

hope it's real. I think it would help crack down regardless of if they'd enforce it. And one incorrect comma doesn't make it seem fake to me, hell Dairy Queen has signs nationwide that read $5 buck lunch. I always poke fun at that when I order it, I say "can I get the five dollar buck lunch please?"

There's also the last 'target" is not capitalized, Target calls us "guests" not customers, improper/odd grammar about trespassing.

[myerscards]

Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

I doubt theft charge for searching packs without opening them will hold up in court.

No chance searching holds up in court. I give it to them atleast they are trying to scare them.

[hermanotarjeta]

They need another sign that says “please don’t buy blaster boxes, open the packs, take the good cards, and return the resealed boxes back to us for a full refund, no questions asked. Other customers might repurchase those resealed boxes and be a little dissatisfied.”

[Soxfanguy]

Originally Posted by myerscards

No chance searching holds up in court. I give it to them atleast they are trying to scare them.

If someone cuts the sides wouldn't that be vandalism/destruction of property?

[1989FF]

Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

If someone cuts the sides wouldn't that be vandalism/destruction of property?

Courts fees and getting your legal team involved is expensive. Cheaper to look the other way once your "barking" does not work. With my quick research I learned they have you pay a civil demand for small theft and larger amounts (felony) they call the cops. Basically.

With my middle son once I saw them take down a lady at the door like she had a weapon. She went down as she resisted. She quickly turned to "I'm so sorry...blah blah". It was rewarding to watch and a good thing for my kid to see. Although my 17 year old into PM's and stocks is unlikely to steal from Target.