***Official 2019 CHICAGO CUBS Thread*** - Page 16

packman80 · 09-21-2019, 09:18 PM

As a Brewers fan Kimbrel reminds me of Derrick Turnbow. Guy went from all-star to gas can overnight.

Ferg1945 · 09-21-2019, 09:26 PM

Our only hope would be Nationals and Brewers losing.

Brewers won tonight and Nationals leading 10-4 heading to the bottom of the 10th.

Cubbies will be 3 back of Brewers with 7 games to go.... pretty much ending the Cubbies season. They still have a very very slim shot... but these 2 teams aren't gonna collapse in the final week.

Perfect time to lose 5 str8. Go Cubs!!

meanjean9 · 09-21-2019, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

Joe Maddon
Pitches to Yelich with a righty when he is HORRIBLE vs lefty pitching.
Pitches a lefty to Ozuna, He does the opposite of what a good manager should do.

.936 OPS vs lefties is HORRIBLE? Your hot takes never disappoint.

FBGuy13 · 09-21-2019, 10:16 PM

Very disappointing end to season. I'm one of the few Cubs and Brewers fans, growing up and living in WI - but always cheer for Cubs first. I tip my cap to the Brewers and what they have done, especially since Yelich went down, really a shame he got hurt. Not much else to say but the Cubs remain the least clutch "good" team in baseball. I thought end of last year collapse was bad, but this year takes the cake. Will be shocked if things change and Cubs make playoffs - I can't see them stringing along even 2 wins in a row right now. Kimbrel has given up like 9 or 10 home runs in 19 innings pitched or something - awful. Hoping for a better offseason, with a better direction for next year. But my goodness does the bullpen need work, and they have shown you can't just throw money at the problem w/ past their prime relievers. What a terrible week for Cubs fans though. Had everything still in front to accomplish including win the division. Cardinals remain a solid organization - they had lots of ups and downs, but came through when it counted.

texmcpherson · 09-21-2019, 10:27 PM

Being at that game was like riding the worlds largest roller coaster.

I know the season isn’t over, but boy does it feel like it.

I guess it’s time to get ready for some Michigan State basketball

sportzluvr1 · 09-21-2019, 11:01 PM

Maddon is gone. Probably Girardi to take his place.

Wrigs37 · 09-21-2019, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sportzluvr1

Maddon is gone. Probably Girardi to take his place.

They are not looking for a 4-6 million dollar manager. That’s why it will be David Ross. Looks pretty obvious to me, and the national media.

SidVish · 09-22-2019, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by texmcpherson

He has a knack for Theo handing him a blank check!

I really hope they don't do this. They already have too much bad money in Heyward, Darvish, Chatwood, and Kimbrel. He's had a great 47 games but he's a career 7 WAR player. I hope he hits .335 next year as a Cub but there are too many years that show he is not that.

I don't know what it is about Cubs fans but they overrate guys like Castellanos and Schwarber while underappreciating guys like Bryant. My friends do this to me and I just find it very amusing.

If you would rather keep Schwarber or Castellanos over Bryant then I don't know what to tell you other than that's a very bad baseball thought.

One thing I noticed in this series is how much better of a framer Molina is behind the plate than Contreras.

In regards to this season it's not a surprise to me. They've been basically a .500 team since May or June I think. Bad pitching and bad defense is a recipe for disaster. Also, the offense is still broken. When they were good in 2016 they had Fowler getting on base at a high .393 clip. They haven't replaced him since then. Not sure why Theo hasn't found one. The bullpen has been atrocious for a couple of years now.

Maddon will take the blame but the entire roster has let him down and is responsible for his firing. The front office to me has been worse at fielding a good roster than Maddon has at coaching. Good luck to the next coach but he will definitely benefit from some changes to this current team.

Go Cubs!

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CubKings · 09-22-2019, 04:02 PM

Hahahaha wow. Wow.

Safe to say no playoffs this year. It's over. Cards just wrecked us.

PGS · 09-22-2019, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CubKings

Hahahaha wow. Wow.

Safe to say no playoffs this year. It's over. Cards just wrecked us.

Can’t fault them today though. Yu was dealing and the way the BP was pitching I get it.

Wolves4Life · 09-22-2019, 04:39 PM

Maddon staying with Yu too long isn't a shock. He can't manage pitching to save his life.

IgnatiusJReilly · 09-22-2019, 04:40 PM

The streak of late game misfortune continues! Fortuna has certainly spun us downward these last days!

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SidVish · 09-22-2019, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

Maddon staying with Yu too long isn't a shock. He can't manage pitching to save his life.

It's almost impossible but his pitching moves seem to always backfire.

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Wolves4Life · 09-24-2019, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by meanjean9

.936 OPS vs lefties is HORRIBLE? Your hot takes never disappoint.

276 avg vs lefties as opposed to 358 against righties. That's almost a 100 point swing. Sometimes OPS doesn't tell the whole story.

jasonm2121 · 09-24-2019, 11:06 AM

It's a wrap

VeedonFleece · 09-24-2019, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

276 avg vs lefties as opposed to 358 against righties. That's almost a 100 point swing. Sometimes OPS doesn't tell the whole story.

Career 114 wRC+ vs lefties (135 this year.) He's .284 lifetime vs lefties, .305 vs righties.

Not 'HORRIBLE.'

tsgfx · 09-24-2019, 11:31 AM

So to play devils advocate...what would a trade for Bryant potentially look like?
What would you require/expect to see in a deal for a player of his talent and production level?

Wolves4Life · 09-24-2019, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by VeedonFleece

Career 114 wRC+ vs lefties (135 this year.) He's .284 lifetime vs lefties, .305 vs righties.

Not 'HORRIBLE.'

Either way it was a dumb decision to pitch Kintlzer in that spot and he had a lefty warming up. One of many dumb things Maddon has done.

Wolves4Life · 09-24-2019, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by tsgfx

So to play devils advocate...what would a trade for Bryant potentially look like?
What would you require/expect to see in a deal for a player of his talent and production level?

Only an idiot would even consider trading Bryant.

CoolG · 09-24-2019, 11:36 AM

Suntimes
spot on

Whoever fires Joe Maddon as part of the solution for this team needs to look in the mirror and fire that guy, too.

C ya THEO happy return back to Boston

Wolves4Life · 09-24-2019, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CoolG

Suntimes
spot on

Whoever fires Joe Maddon as part of the solution for this team needs to look in the mirror and fire that guy, too.

C ya THEO happy return back to Boston

Maddon wouldn't get fired though, He's a FA lol.

stephenj25 · 09-24-2019, 12:05 PM

Why so much hate for Theo? He did what every Cubs fan wanted a GM to do for a long time. Bring this team a World Series title. He has added pieces that were supposed to help this team return to the World Series. Some of this blame has to be put on the coaches and players, not just Theo.

Wrigs37 · 09-24-2019, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CoolG

Suntimes
spot on

Whoever fires Joe Maddon as part of the solution for this team needs to look in the mirror and fire that guy, too.

C ya THEO happy return back to Boston

Like Theo is going to Boston. Per usually your ignorance stands out. I mean I’d be fine with Theo leaving, but he’s not going to Boston. He’s not even wanted in Boston lol.

CoolG · 09-24-2019, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Wrigs37

Like Theo is going to Boston. Per usually your ignorance stands out. I mean I’d be fine with Theo leaving, but he’s not going to Boston. He’s not even wanted in Boston lol.

“Per usually your ignorance stands out “ comment huh ?

It was a joke about the Boston return.

On another note
My take, your postings would have to improve just to suck
Have a good day

stephenj25 · 09-24-2019, 12:16 PM

Maddon needs to go. He is a great manager but I don't think he is the right manager for this team. With all the talent on this roster they should have more to show than what they have the past 3 seasons.

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09-24-2019, 11:31 AM	#392
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09-24-2019, 11:36 AM	#395
CoolG Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 2,033	Suntimes spot on Whoever fires Joe Maddon as part of the solution for this team needs to look in the mirror and fire that guy, too. C ya THEO happy return back to Boston Last edited by CoolG; 09-24-2019 at 11:40 AM.

09-21-2019, 09:18 PM	#376
packman80 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 16,960	As a Brewers fan Kimbrel reminds me of Derrick Turnbow. Guy went from all-star to gas can overnight.

09-21-2019, 09:26 PM	#377
Ferg1945 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Midwest Posts: 14,720	Our only hope would be Nationals and Brewers losing. Brewers won tonight and Nationals leading 10-4 heading to the bottom of the 10th. Cubbies will be 3 back of Brewers with 7 games to go.... pretty much ending the Cubbies season. They still have a very very slim shot... but these 2 teams aren't gonna collapse in the final week. Perfect time to lose 5 str8. Go Cubs!!

09-21-2019, 10:16 PM	#379
FBGuy13 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,403 firesportsinvestments	Very disappointing end to season. I'm one of the few Cubs and Brewers fans, growing up and living in WI - but always cheer for Cubs first. I tip my cap to the Brewers and what they have done, especially since Yelich went down, really a shame he got hurt. Not much else to say but the Cubs remain the least clutch "good" team in baseball. I thought end of last year collapse was bad, but this year takes the cake. Will be shocked if things change and Cubs make playoffs - I can't see them stringing along even 2 wins in a row right now. Kimbrel has given up like 9 or 10 home runs in 19 innings pitched or something - awful. Hoping for a better offseason, with a better direction for next year. But my goodness does the bullpen need work, and they have shown you can't just throw money at the problem w/ past their prime relievers. What a terrible week for Cubs fans though. Had everything still in front to accomplish including win the division. Cardinals remain a solid organization - they had lots of ups and downs, but came through when it counted.

09-22-2019, 04:39 PM	#386
Wolves4Life Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 12,454	Maddon staying with Yu too long isn't a shock. He can't manage pitching to save his life.

09-22-2019, 04:40 PM	#387
IgnatiusJReilly Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Newbury Park, CA Posts: 1,982 Stonethecrow34	The streak of late game misfortune continues! Fortuna has certainly spun us downward these last days! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

09-24-2019, 11:06 AM	#390
jasonm2121 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: GOAT City Posts: 11,997	It's a wrap

09-24-2019, 12:05 PM	#397
stephenj25 Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,676	Why so much hate for Theo? He did what every Cubs fan wanted a GM to do for a long time. Bring this team a World Series title. He has added pieces that were supposed to help this team return to the World Series. Some of this blame has to be put on the coaches and players, not just Theo.

09-24-2019, 12:16 PM	#400
stephenj25 Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,676	Maddon needs to go. He is a great manager but I don't think he is the right manager for this team. With all the talent on this roster they should have more to show than what they have the past 3 seasons. Last edited by stephenj25; 09-24-2019 at 12:18 PM.