***Official 2019 CHICAGO CUBS Thread*** - Page 15

Wolves4Life · 09-19-2019, 10:44 PM

This wasn't on Kimbrel at all. You NEVER go to a guy who just came off the DL the same exact day. No managers with a brain does it which shows you what Maddon doesn't have.

salthill · 09-19-2019, 10:45 PM

David Ross is up in Joe’s office measuring up for his new desk.

Wolves4Life · 09-19-2019, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by salthill

David Ross is up in Joe’s office measuring up for his new desk.

David Ross wouldn't be a good manager.

Call me crazy but I'd take Scioscia.

salthill · 09-19-2019, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

David Ross wouldn't be a good manager.

That’s probably orthogonal to whether he’ll be the next manager.

CoolG · 09-19-2019, 11:03 PM

This isn’t on Joe he’s only playing the hand he’s been dealt.
Bad signings -trades-weak pen- depleted farm system
It’s starts with THEO

Darvish has 6 wins in 2 years

Kimbrel

Eloy- Cease- SOLER- Gleyber-Vogelbach

Lot of talent has left the building
Chap trade did get them WS win...... but 1 year rental
think about those guys in the lineup or coming off the bench for a long term run where they had a legit shot year in year out

Wolves4Life · 09-20-2019, 05:19 PM

Only the Cubs manage to make Wacha look like Bob Gibson.

Wolves4Life · 09-20-2019, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CoolG

This isn’t on Joe he’s only playing the hand he’s been dealt.
Bad signings -trades-weak pen- depleted farm system
It’s starts with THEO

Darvish has 6 wins in 2 years

Kimbrel

Eloy- Cease- SOLER- Gleyber-Vogelbach

Lot of talent has left the building
Chap trade did get them WS win...... but 1 year rental
think about those guys in the lineup or coming off the bench for a long term run where they had a legit shot year in year out

Cease has been garbage
Soler is a DH and wouldn't be starting in the OF anyway
You don't win the WS if you don't trade Gleybar
Vogelbach is a heavier version of Adam Dunn Homer or K.

CubKings · 09-20-2019, 05:46 PM

Man, this damn team. Probably better to lose then get swept in the WC or first round.

It's all whatever. No way we beat LA or ATL or obviously the Cards. And probably half the AL teams would kill us too.

FBGuy13 · 09-20-2019, 06:07 PM

The team is just flat out not clutch when it counts. What a tough last few days to lose those close ones - had chances in both. Was just talking with another close friend who is also a Cubs fan and man we just cannot believe the team really peaked immediately when they won the World Series. Thought we would be enjoying many more seasons of success. Pretty sure we see alot of changes this offseason - I do not expect Maddon back, and the front office deserves plenty of heat. The bullpen is a huge letdown and good money thrown after underperforming players. Still a chance to make post season but this team does not even deserve a WC spot at this point.

CoolG · 09-20-2019, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

Cease has been garbage
Soler is a DH and wouldn't be starting in the OF anyway
You don't win the WS if you don't trade Gleybar
Vogelbach is a heavier version of Adam Dunn Homer or K.

..........
It’s on THEO to fill the holes and the players i outlined have significant value on field or via trade
I was making a valid point of the talent that has been moved in bad trades and signings ( YU-Kimbrel)

THEO hasn’t had a good signing in years and it was pretty obvious the Kimbrel collapse started last year.

Getting CASTELLANOS was more on Joe, he wanted him back in 2018.

You can only play the hand you’ve been dealt as a manager.

Theo is slightly over .500 since taking the GM job back in 2011. He has gutted the farm system and made some awful trades over the past 3-4 years.

Maddon has had one losing season as a manager since 2007

scotthenrichs · 09-20-2019, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CubKings

No way we beat LA or ATL or obviously the Cards. And probably half the AL teams would kill us too.

And the Brewers. Don’t forget the Brewers

salthill · 09-20-2019, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FBGuy13

Was just talking with another close friend who is also a Cubs fan and man we just cannot believe the team really peaked immediately when they won the World Series. Thought we would be enjoying many more seasons of success.

Back in 2015 the word was that team was built to win in 2017. They hit a year early. But like you said that was the peak.

IgnatiusJReilly · 09-21-2019, 01:56 PM

Castellanos gets a 2B in virtually every game. Is he an incredible runner or does he have a knack for hitting it where there are no fielders (gaps, corners)?

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texmcpherson · 09-21-2019, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by IgnatiusJReilly

Castellanos gets a 2B in virtually every game. Is he an incredible runner or does he have a knack for hitting it where there are no fielders (gaps, corners)?

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He has a knack for Theo handing him a blank check!

Wolves4Life · 09-21-2019, 04:23 PM

Joe Maddon
Pitches to Yelich with a righty when he is HORRIBLE vs lefty pitching.
Pitches a lefty to Ozuna, He does the opposite of what a good manager should do.

IgnatiusJReilly · 09-21-2019, 04:41 PM

Kemp ph homer!

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Copeskey45 · 09-21-2019, 05:24 PM

Never thought I would say this but.... I think the Kimbrel signing is the worst FA signing in a while

CubKings · 09-21-2019, 05:26 PM

Yeah, chicken wing sucks. We should never use him again.

Didn't he sign for like 3 years? 3 more years of this bullsh!t??

Wolves4Life · 09-21-2019, 05:35 PM

I'm not shocked how bad Kimbrel is doing.
1) You can tell he's not 100%
2) He didn't get any ST and missed half a season just about.

Shut him down before he gets worse (injury wise)

Joe and Training Staff imo don't even care. You don't need to be a doctor to see he's not 100%.

Wolves4Life · 09-21-2019, 05:49 PM

Joe Maddon (Probably)
Kimbrel hurt? Pitch anyway
Baez hairline fracture? Hit anyway.

IgnatiusJReilly · 09-21-2019, 06:00 PM

What series of gut punches. 3 one run losses to StL, two on late inning HRs off Kimbrel. Brutal.

Castellanos has been amazing and Kimbrel absolutely terrible. On balance, this is a rough way to end the season.

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Chicosbailbonds · 09-21-2019, 06:18 PM

For you youngins, you are experiencing the '69 Cubs and the Bears Super Bowl dynasty all at once.

Big35Hurt · 09-21-2019, 06:24 PM

I mentioned previously in the RDIFF thread that the Cubs can't seem to win close games. This is getting old. The only silver lining to this is that it may keep the Brewers from winning the division.

BostonNut · 09-21-2019, 07:19 PM

The warning signs for Kimbrel where there last year. Dude is toast.

Technochocolate · 09-21-2019, 08:19 PM

The training staff has to go. Just this week:

Kimbrel obviously isn't right
Allowing Baez to hit
Rizzo coming back miracously (don't know what to think about how they handled that one)
Russell went on concussion protocol and is back...but hasn't appeared yet (in several games in which Joe went way deep on the bench)
Kintzler was magically out, then made available yesterday, then apparently unavailable today

Plus the mismanagement of minor injuries from Bryant, Contreras, and Bote, and a big mismanagement of Descalso. And more rejuggling of the starting rotation than should be present (Hamels, Darvish).

09-19-2019, 11:03 PM	#355
CoolG Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 2,033	This isn’t on Joe he’s only playing the hand he’s been dealt. Bad signings -trades-weak pen- depleted farm system It’s starts with THEO Darvish has 6 wins in 2 years Kimbrel Eloy- Cease- SOLER- Gleyber-Vogelbach Lot of talent has left the building Chap trade did get them WS win...... but 1 year rental think about those guys in the lineup or coming off the bench for a long term run where they had a legit shot year in year out Last edited by CoolG; 09-19-2019 at 11:25 PM.

09-20-2019, 05:46 PM	#358
CubKings Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Earth Posts: 6,518	Man, this damn team. Probably better to lose then get swept in the WC or first round. It's all whatever. No way we beat LA or ATL or obviously the Cards. And probably half the AL teams would kill us too. __________________ NBA: Marbury, Jordan, Kobe, Westbrook, KD, AI, Jazz MLB: Chicago Cubs, Stanton, Aramis Ramirez, Sosa NFL: Minnesota Vikings, Randy Moss, Adrian Peterson https://sportscardalbum.com/u/cublife

09-21-2019, 05:26 PM	#368
CubKings Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Earth Posts: 6,518	Yeah, chicken wing sucks. We should never use him again. Didn't he sign for like 3 years? 3 more years of this bullsh!t?? __________________ NBA: Marbury, Jordan, Kobe, Westbrook, KD, AI, Jazz MLB: Chicago Cubs, Stanton, Aramis Ramirez, Sosa NFL: Minnesota Vikings, Randy Moss, Adrian Peterson https://sportscardalbum.com/u/cublife

09-19-2019, 10:44 PM	#351
Wolves4Life Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 12,454	This wasn't on Kimbrel at all. You NEVER go to a guy who just came off the DL the same exact day. No managers with a brain does it which shows you what Maddon doesn't have.

09-19-2019, 10:45 PM	#352
salthill Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 8,527 salthill	David Ross is up in Joe’s office measuring up for his new desk.

09-20-2019, 05:19 PM	#356
Wolves4Life Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 12,454	Only the Cubs manage to make Wacha look like Bob Gibson.

09-20-2019, 06:07 PM	#359
FBGuy13 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,403 firesportsinvestments	The team is just flat out not clutch when it counts. What a tough last few days to lose those close ones - had chances in both. Was just talking with another close friend who is also a Cubs fan and man we just cannot believe the team really peaked immediately when they won the World Series. Thought we would be enjoying many more seasons of success. Pretty sure we see alot of changes this offseason - I do not expect Maddon back, and the front office deserves plenty of heat. The bullpen is a huge letdown and good money thrown after underperforming players. Still a chance to make post season but this team does not even deserve a WC spot at this point.

09-21-2019, 01:56 PM	#363
IgnatiusJReilly Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Newbury Park, CA Posts: 1,982 Stonethecrow34	Castellanos gets a 2B in virtually every game. Is he an incredible runner or does he have a knack for hitting it where there are no fielders (gaps, corners)? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

09-21-2019, 04:23 PM	#365
Wolves4Life Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 12,454	Joe Maddon Pitches to Yelich with a righty when he is HORRIBLE vs lefty pitching. Pitches a lefty to Ozuna, He does the opposite of what a good manager should do.

09-21-2019, 04:41 PM	#366
IgnatiusJReilly Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Newbury Park, CA Posts: 1,982 Stonethecrow34	Kemp ph homer! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

09-21-2019, 05:24 PM	#367
Copeskey45 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,566 copeskey45john	Never thought I would say this but.... I think the Kimbrel signing is the worst FA signing in a while

09-21-2019, 05:35 PM	#369
Wolves4Life Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 12,454	I'm not shocked how bad Kimbrel is doing. 1) You can tell he's not 100% 2) He didn't get any ST and missed half a season just about. Shut him down before he gets worse (injury wise) Joe and Training Staff imo don't even care. You don't need to be a doctor to see he's not 100%.

09-21-2019, 05:49 PM	#370
Wolves4Life Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 12,454	Joe Maddon (Probably) Kimbrel hurt? Pitch anyway Baez hairline fracture? Hit anyway.

09-21-2019, 06:00 PM	#371
IgnatiusJReilly Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Newbury Park, CA Posts: 1,982 Stonethecrow34	What series of gut punches. 3 one run losses to StL, two on late inning HRs off Kimbrel. Brutal. Castellanos has been amazing and Kimbrel absolutely terrible. On balance, this is a rough way to end the season. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

09-21-2019, 06:18 PM	#372
Chicosbailbonds Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,751	For you youngins, you are experiencing the '69 Cubs and the Bears Super Bowl dynasty all at once.

09-21-2019, 06:24 PM	#373
Big35Hurt Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 9,460	I mentioned previously in the RDIFF thread that the Cubs can't seem to win close games. This is getting old. The only silver lining to this is that it may keep the Brewers from winning the division.

09-21-2019, 07:19 PM	#374
BostonNut Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 60,465	The warning signs for Kimbrel where there last year. Dude is toast.

09-21-2019, 08:19 PM	#375
Technochocolate Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: IL Posts: 3,716	The training staff has to go. Just this week: Kimbrel obviously isn't right Allowing Baez to hit Rizzo coming back miracously (don't know what to think about how they handled that one) Russell went on concussion protocol and is back...but hasn't appeared yet (in several games in which Joe went way deep on the bench) Kintzler was magically out, then made available yesterday, then apparently unavailable today Plus the mismanagement of minor injuries from Bryant, Contreras, and Bote, and a big mismanagement of Descalso. And more rejuggling of the starting rotation than should be present (Hamels, Darvish).