Dave Dombrowski Fired by Red Sox

SirTommyWinAlot · 09-08-2019, 11:17 PM

Didn't see this coming.

devo · 09-08-2019, 11:20 PM

Not surprising. Red Sox kinda suck.

SirTommyWinAlot · 09-08-2019, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by devo

Not surprising. Red Sox kinda suck.

Can't be a world series winner every year though. That's impossible.

Wiseguy917 · 09-08-2019, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by devo

Not surprising. Red Sox kinda suck.

What do you mean? JD was gonna get robbed of his 3rd straight MVP while powering them to the WC.

hxcmilkshake · 09-08-2019, 11:26 PM

Timing is odd but he was a dead man walkin

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awz50 · 09-08-2019, 11:28 PM

Nvm not worth it

awz50 · 09-08-2019, 11:30 PM

Anywho I'm not surprised they did, he underachieved this off season and trade deadline

jrg1128 · 09-08-2019, 11:40 PM

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Anywho I'm not surprised they did, he underachieved this off season and trade deadline

Agreed. Especially at the All Star break. He didn’t make the moves needed to put the Red Sox in contention.

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davebo · 09-08-2019, 11:44 PM

This is not surprising. Need a closer for the last 5 months. Never got one. I'm not going to complain because his deals did win us a WS, but we are also very much behind the 8 ball now with some of the signings.

seanbros55 · 09-09-2019, 12:02 AM

Curious timing but...

Defending champs - he did his job in 2018.

2019 - High expectations, rotation and bullpen are a travesty - that's on him.

devo · 09-09-2019, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SirTommyWinAlot

Can't be a world series winner every year though. That's impossible.

When asked for comment, Dombrowski only stared into the middle distance, knees pulled close to his chest, muttering “Too many dingahs. They just hit too many dingahs.”

IronMonkey415 · 09-09-2019, 12:53 AM

I do imagine him saying and acting like that.

rwperu34 · 09-09-2019, 01:52 AM

His two year average could still end up 100 wins, is already 92 wins even if they lose every single game from here on out, and has to be expected to end up at ~97 wins. His 3-year will end up at ~95 wins.

There has to be something else, because this team has absolutely performed. If not, it's a team that is supposed to understand variance letting the variance monster eat Dombrowski.

mwash1983 · 09-09-2019, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by rwperu34

His two year average could still end up 100 wins, is already 92 wins even if they lose every single game from here on out, and has to be expected to end up at ~97 wins. His 3-year will end up at ~95 wins.

There has to be something else, because this team has absolutely performed. If not, it's a team that is supposed to understand variance letting the variance monster eat Dombrowski.

I think the Redsox see post Dombrowski Tigers and sense we gotta dump this guy now before we become a doormat and build the farm system back up ASAP. I see Mookie being traded for sure now.

jlzinck · 09-09-2019, 05:57 AM

Red Sox just trying to stay relevant in the Boston News cycle with the Patriots starting up.

JMarchand1981 · 09-09-2019, 06:01 AM

Soooo does this help or hurt them in mookie negotiations?

spuds1961 · 09-09-2019, 06:48 AM

So is Cora safe. Talk about thanks for nothing Dombrowski didn’t even last the full season after winning a World Series.

awz50 · 09-09-2019, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by spuds1961

So is Cora safe. Talk about thanks for nothing Dombrowski didn’t even last the full season after winning a World Series.

Big market, no manager is ever safe

coachnip13 · 09-09-2019, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by rwperu34

His two year average could still end up 100 wins, is already 92 wins even if they lose every single game from here on out, and has to be expected to end up at ~97 wins. His 3-year will end up at ~95 wins.

There has to be something else, because this team has absolutely performed. If not, it's a team that is supposed to understand variance letting the variance monster eat Dombrowski.

That's the problem with averages. Me, my neighbor, and Bill Gates have an average net worth of $35 billion. Average win totals don't help you when the most recent season is 9 games over .500 and for all intents and purposes out of the playoff race.

3AND4 · 09-09-2019, 08:36 AM

& brian cashman somehow still has his job!

As a NON PITCHER junk heap talent evaluater he gets an A+.

Rest of his tenure is an F-!

I give him NO Credit for the 98-00 World Series as he just rode Gene Michael & Bob Watson's building & coattails.

So in the last 18 Years he has 1 World Series & that was the year he spent 500 Million on Free Agents!

With the money the Yanks spent the since 2001 to have 1 World Series win
( Red Sox 4 Giants 3 Cardinals 2 Marlins 1 hmmmmmmmmmmmmm) is a joke.

He Fired Joe Girardi who got to the 7th game of the ALCS & the next year didnt even MAKE the ALCS! That should have been the final nail in his coffin!

No I am not "One of those Yankee fans". I just dont see how this guy kept his job all these years.

SethMurphy · 09-09-2019, 08:40 AM

NYY 94-50
TB 86-59
BOS 76-67

Overall 7th best record in AL, 8 GB of Wild Card, 17.5 GB of Yankees.

Not difficult to see this firing coming. As defending champs expectations are higher than being 7th best and missing the playoffs. I'm just glad he got fired off of a Yankees series, it's better for the rivalry.

MCyganik · 09-09-2019, 08:54 AM

Figured this would happen at the end of the year but right now is a bit surprising.

Doesn't take much to assemble a good team when you've got one of the largest payrolls in the game (and right now, THE largest) but he's shown after 20+ years to be clueless as a bullpen evaluator. The bullpen hasn't been as bad as everyone makes it out to be when compared to the rest of the league, but the Sale, Price & Eovaldi contracts are killing them right now and will force Mookie out of town if their rotation continues to sour under the weight of their contracts.

Dombrowski gets a bit of a raw deal but that's the price you pay in Boston these days. I think Cora gets at least another year because cornerstone young guys like Devers & Bogaerts love him. But this probably signals a shift where Mookie and J.D. leave in the next calendar year.

rman112 · 09-09-2019, 08:54 AM

Bullpen decisions have killed the Sox. They basically went all-in on Brasier, and it bit them hard. I'm curious whose decision it was to shorten the rotation load in ST. They came out of the gate horribly, and never recovered.

coachnip13 · 09-09-2019, 08:58 AM

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I'm curious whose decision it was to shorten the rotation load in ST. They came out of the gate horribly, and never recovered.

Amen. Something was not handled correctly in spring training.

SethMurphy · 09-09-2019, 09:03 AM

Boston's bullpen this season - 4.24 ERA, .233 BAA, 28 saves, 27 blown saves, worst save pctg in american league, 35 HBP (2nd most in AL),

Boston's starters - 4.98 ERA, .264 BAA

I'd say pitching as a whole is the problem. No dominant closer to shut the door after letting Kimbrel work, but starter's didn't really give them a great shot at it either as they were 7th in save opportunities in the AL

09-08-2019, 11:17 PM	#1
SirTommyWinAlot Banned Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Gillette Stadium/Foxboro Posts: 6,545	Dave Dombrowski Fired by Red Sox Didn't see this coming.

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awz50 Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: New Hampshire>>>Arizona>>>>Florida Posts: 33,427 awz50	Anywho I'm not surprised they did, he underachieved this off season and trade deadline __________________ Collecting Baseball Hof Autographs 248/351 Blowouts Official Red Sox face of the franchise Eduardo Rodriguez Super Collector

09-08-2019, 11:44 PM	#9
davebo Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bridgewater, NJ Posts: 1,930	This is not surprising. Need a closer for the last 5 months. Never got one. I'm not going to complain because his deals did win us a WS, but we are also very much behind the 8 ball now with some of the signings. __________________ Follow me on Twitter @boxscorebreaks

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hxcmilkshake Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Apopka FL Posts: 11,531 hxcmilkshake	Timing is odd but he was a dead man walkin Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

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seanbros55 Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: From the 508 to the 707 Posts: 5,408	Curious timing but... Defending champs - he did his job in 2018. 2019 - High expectations, rotation and bullpen are a travesty - that's on him.

09-09-2019, 12:53 AM	#12
IronMonkey415 Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 44,118 ironmonkeyfromsf	I do imagine him saying and acting like that.

09-09-2019, 01:52 AM	#13
rwperu34 Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 8,436	His two year average could still end up 100 wins, is already 92 wins even if they lose every single game from here on out, and has to be expected to end up at ~97 wins. His 3-year will end up at ~95 wins. There has to be something else, because this team has absolutely performed. If not, it's a team that is supposed to understand variance letting the variance monster eat Dombrowski. __________________ Me: Did I win? Gixen: Yes. You won. Now you're broke.

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JMarchand1981 Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 34,438	Soooo does this help or hurt them in mookie negotiations?

09-09-2019, 06:48 AM	#17
spuds1961 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Terry,Ms. Posts: 39,548	So is Cora safe. Talk about thanks for nothing Dombrowski didn’t even last the full season after winning a World Series.

09-09-2019, 08:36 AM	#20
3AND4 Banned Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 763	& brian cashman somehow still has his job! As a NON PITCHER junk heap talent evaluater he gets an A+. Rest of his tenure is an F-! I give him NO Credit for the 98-00 World Series as he just rode Gene Michael & Bob Watson's building & coattails. So in the last 18 Years he has 1 World Series & that was the year he spent 500 Million on Free Agents! With the money the Yanks spent the since 2001 to have 1 World Series win ( Red Sox 4 Giants 3 Cardinals 2 Marlins 1 hmmmmmmmmmmmmm) is a joke. He Fired Joe Girardi who got to the 7th game of the ALCS & the next year didnt even MAKE the ALCS! That should have been the final nail in his coffin! No I am not "One of those Yankee fans". I just dont see how this guy kept his job all these years.

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SethMurphy Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Centerville/Erie, PA Posts: 19,496 smurf_8 sethmurphy	NYY 94-50 TB 86-59 BOS 76-67 Overall 7th best record in AL, 8 GB of Wild Card, 17.5 GB of Yankees. Not difficult to see this firing coming. As defending champs expectations are higher than being 7th best and missing the playoffs. I'm just glad he got fired off of a Yankees series, it's better for the rivalry. __________________ Twitter - @seth_murphy8 PCs - Ryan Callahan, Reggie Lewis, Funko Pops (a little), a few other things that catch my eye

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MCyganik Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Titletown USA Posts: 991 MCyganik	Figured this would happen at the end of the year but right now is a bit surprising. Doesn't take much to assemble a good team when you've got one of the largest payrolls in the game (and right now, THE largest) but he's shown after 20+ years to be clueless as a bullpen evaluator. The bullpen hasn't been as bad as everyone makes it out to be when compared to the rest of the league, but the Sale, Price & Eovaldi contracts are killing them right now and will force Mookie out of town if their rotation continues to sour under the weight of their contracts. Dombrowski gets a bit of a raw deal but that's the price you pay in Boston these days. I think Cora gets at least another year because cornerstone young guys like Devers & Bogaerts love him. But this probably signals a shift where Mookie and J.D. leave in the next calendar year.

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rman112 Banned Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Freedom is Free Again Posts: 40,946	Bullpen decisions have killed the Sox. They basically went all-in on Brasier, and it bit them hard. I'm curious whose decision it was to shorten the rotation load in ST. They came out of the gate horribly, and never recovered.

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SethMurphy Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Centerville/Erie, PA Posts: 19,496 smurf_8 sethmurphy	Boston's bullpen this season - 4.24 ERA, .233 BAA, 28 saves, 27 blown saves, worst save pctg in american league, 35 HBP (2nd most in AL), Boston's starters - 4.98 ERA, .264 BAA I'd say pitching as a whole is the problem. No dominant closer to shut the door after letting Kimbrel work, but starter's didn't really give them a great shot at it either as they were 7th in save opportunities in the AL __________________ Twitter - @seth_murphy8 PCs - Ryan Callahan, Reggie Lewis, Funko Pops (a little), a few other things that catch my eye