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Old 06-26-2019, 12:31 PM   #51
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Wow

Blake griffin
Al horford
Bosh
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Wes matthews

All these guys kind of suck.
lol Blake Griffin Sucks?? ok sure

just put up a season of: 24.5ppg, 7.5rpg, 5.4apg

other players in 2018/19 who matched that or better??

Lebron and Giannis----end of list

no he is not Lebron/Giannis...but he far from sucks
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Old 06-26-2019, 01:08 PM   #52
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lol Blake Griffin Sucks?? ok sure

just put up a season of: 24.5ppg, 7.5rpg, 5.4apg

other players in 2018/19 who matched that or better??

Lebron and Giannis----end of list

no he is not Lebron/Giannis...but he far from sucks
Thanks for saving me the time of looking this up. Blake was a top 15 player this season. Injuries got him again though
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Old 06-26-2019, 01:14 PM   #53
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Thanks for saving me the time of looking this up. Blake was a top 15 player this season. Injuries got him again though
All he is good for is jumping over a Kia to dunk!!
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Old 06-26-2019, 02:04 PM   #54
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The thing is teams like Indiana have to spend the same amount of money as the Lakers/Knicks/Clippers/Nets/Warriors. Any of the Top 10, 15, 20 hell probably 30-50 guys aren't willing to come to Indiana with all the money you can offer. So the options are either to get C quality players and not spend it all at once, or try and max out a B player like Tobias Harris or Kemba Walker.

Conley got the max because who's going to Memphis, same with Wall in DC.

Exactly.
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Old 06-26-2019, 02:09 PM   #55
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lol Blake Griffin Sucks?? ok sure

just put up a season of: 24.5ppg, 7.5rpg, 5.4apg

other players in 2018/19 who matched that or better??

Lebron and Giannis----end of list

no he is not Lebron/Giannis...but he far from sucks
Define match? I know you are just using those 3 as the barometer so I get your definition...

Would you rather have 24.5, 7.5, and 5.4 or 27.5, 13.6, and 3.7? Or 36.1, 6.6, and 7.5?

I understand what you are trying to say but you know it's cherry picking, which is fine as we all do it, because you can say "only LeBron and Giannis" were better.

I do think Blake is probably still a Top 15 player... but not because of just looking at stats.
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Old 06-26-2019, 02:25 PM   #56
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well dude, that's like, your opinion

as for you - I respect your opinion,
I respect all opinions,
everyone is entitled to an opinion, even when they are wrong

of course only some opinions are right, mostly my own

did I mention that I heard a rumor that Lauri Markannen has a heart condition like Hank Gathers. Career over.
First, how dare you. Lauri Markkanen is the literal messiah and your unwillingness to bask in His glory and mercy will result in you reaching basketball hell. Your team will become more dysfunctional than the Suns and bigger perennial losers than the Kings. Every player on your team will tear their ACLs and start dating Kardashians. But repent now and be spared.

Second, I do in fact, respect your right to be wrong.

Such as your wrongness for dissing our lord and savior, Lauri Markkanen.
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All he is good for is jumping over a Kia to dunk!!
Should've been a Benz.
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Old 06-26-2019, 03:06 PM   #58
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First, how dare you. Lauri Markkanen is the literal messiah and your unwillingness to bask in His glory and mercy will result in you reaching basketball hell. Your team will become more dysfunctional than the Suns and bigger perennial losers than the Kings. Every player on your team will tear their ACLs and start dating Kardashians. But repent now and be spared.

Second, I do in fact, respect your right to be wrong.

Such as your wrongness for dissing our lord and savior, Lauri Markkanen.
messiah ... lord .... savior

might strong fighting words ... MJ 2.0 would deserve them, but Dirk 2.0 not so much

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Old 06-26-2019, 03:17 PM   #59
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my willingness to repent depends on which Kardashian my teams players will be dating.

so if the entire team is dating Kim, and it's a massive gang bang, maybe even moving to Utah in the off season, so they can all be brother husbands with her, that would be gross, and result in Egyptian Pharoh type plagues coming down from Moses

but if it's only the starting 5 that you are referring to, and one dude is dating Chris, cuz he likes older women, and one is on Kloe cuz he likes Lamar Odom's left overs, and another on Bruce Jenner, because he's experimenting with LGBTQ, and another is Courtney, and lastly we got one going for Baby Kylie Kardashian

well, I believe that I'm ok with that.



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That is a huge problem with the NBA right now. Many teams are forced to give max contracts to fringe stars. Those teams basically end up spending the next 4-5 years trying to get out from under these type of contracts when the player underperforms.



I just laugh when I look at the Atlanta Hawks roster right now. They will be paying $60+ million to Crabbe, Turner, Hill, and Plumlee this season. I think it takes away from the game when most trades are based on bad contracts going out as opposed to talent coming in.


To be fair, I heard on a podcast that most (or all) are expiries, they’ll have a truckload of cap space with their core on rookie contracts


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Old 06-27-2019, 09:27 AM   #61
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Define match? I know you are just using those 3 as the barometer so I get your definition...

Would you rather have 24.5, 7.5, and 5.4 or 27.5, 13.6, and 3.7? Or 36.1, 6.6, and 7.5?

I understand what you are trying to say but you know it's cherry picking, which is fine as we all do it, because you can say "only LeBron and Giannis" were better.

I do think Blake is probably still a Top 15 player... but not because of just looking at stats.
well yea Hardens stat line is better but it did not qualify...i wasnt saying he is better than others that didnt get there...but simply showing that his stat line is rare and only 2 of the top 5 guys in the game also hit on those 3 numbers...

and to include him in the same list as guys like w.matthews/c.parsons and some of the others was just flat insulting lol

and ive learned from the many instances of Giannis fans using random stats/numbers/groupings to make him seem like a once in a lifetime thing that its acceptable...lol

but is it cherry picking? to a degree yea i guess...but it is simply his classic slash line of pts/reb/ast...
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Old 06-27-2019, 10:49 AM   #62
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a thought about the small market team salary cap strategy ....

the CBA sets the parameters for max money deals, the salary cap, the luxury tax, and also the minimum payroll.

unlike Baseball, the NBA TV deals revenues are distributed evenly, so that even the small market teams have good revenue streams, and the league wants the money spent on player salaries at a minimum level.

It seems to me that the current CBA has resulted in every team trying to hang on to their best player with a max money deal, even if small market Memphis + Mike Conley is not LA Lakers + LeBron James

It seems to me that these small market teams would be better off trading their best player for a draft pick + serviceable player package, when that player is not a franchise transformational player.

Then spend the salary cap on short term deals to adequate but not great Veterans.

In fact, that is one of the complaints of the players union, that the adequate but not great veterans are getting low balled. Even to the point of claiming collusion.

These adequate but not great Vets real problem is that every NBA team spends their money on a max deal, and at the same time has other strategies, perhaps tanking, perhaps playing rookies, perhaps preserving cap space for next year.

But, if a couple of small market teams would resist the max money deal, and put together a roster of 8 guys on 2 year x $5-10 million per year deals + rookies, it might be an interesting experiment
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