Blowout member chainsaw has buyer's remorse and is now making up stuff to return luka - Page 3

prospects · 03-02-2019, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LCM1223

It's the 4th rating down under a 2-21-2019 time stamp

FWIW it's a Positive

yes but I just got this message today?

no10pin · 03-02-2019, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by prospects

I am not sure what he did but I just got this from chainsaw, no feedback shows up though:

I think he's messing with you, it looks like the message you get when someone leaves you feedback, but he changed some of it around.

'You have just received a new chainsaw rating or comment'

kyleuk21 · 03-02-2019, 02:57 PM

Yea this seems like clear buyers remorse after reading it all.

LCM1223 · 03-02-2019, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by prospects

yes but I just got this message today?

Some sort of software glitch or something? Unless you did another deal with him a week ago.

prospects · 03-02-2019, 03:01 PM

[QUOTE=LCM1223;14440451]Some sort of software glitch or something? Unless you did another deal with him a week ago.[/QUOT

Idk what it is he just did

Peties Army · 03-02-2019, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AnthonyCorona

And you wanna make this your full time business? Might be a miscalculation, brother

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I don’t know i personally think he is the type of guy who will be good at whatever he does

prospects · 03-02-2019, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Peties Army

I don’t know i personally think he is the type of guy who will be good at whatever he does

Lol good one

chainsaw · 03-02-2019, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by prospects

I am not sure what he did but I just got this from chainsaw, no feedback shows up though:

It is simply notification that I replied to your negative feedback. As I felt it was unwarranted.

glen87 · 03-02-2019, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by prospects

After many days of not picking the card up, chainsaw told me he was out of town and wanted tracking so he could pick it up.

He said this:

Notice how he specifically said he would not leave feedback until looking at the card.

That same night, he left positive feedback stating this:

CHAINSAW - is this accurate? did you send that message and then leave FB later that night?

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Originally Posted by chainsaw

1. Feedback and delay - I can see how this is frustrating. The reality is that I received the card, and due to my schedule I was able to only give it a moderate review with the team bag still on. I did identify the soft corner, which sell had stated was “perfectly fine”. However, I did not deem it to be deal ending.

As worked slowed, I had an opportunity to finally remove the card and it was glaringly evident that there was a significant surface defect on the face of the card that was neither disclosed not readily apparent in the photos provided by seller.

Further, when the card was removed from the penny sleeve, it became apparent that seller knew of the defect and attempted to remedy it. There was a large fingerprint swipe, hence the reference to oils, across the defect. This was deal ending.

Do I wish I had not left the quick feedback? Of course. I am new to the forum and was attempting to be a curteous buyer. In my haste, I did not properly evaluate the card until my schedule allowed.

if above is accurate, when (in your time lime) did that happen?

imbluestreak23 · 03-02-2019, 05:26 PM

25% seller's fault, 75% buyers fault.

Seller:
-properly disclose ANY issue with the buyer
-Do your due dilligence to protect yourself, if the buyer keeps asking pesky questions about condition/grading/gem potential, avoid. Hand writing on the wall
-Always sell in a slab to reduce this potential, that's why I grade my non gems in my bulk orders. No point in dealing with a headache later on from some moron looking to outwit me

Buyer:
-That card is not "damaged." It's grading a 9 at BGS all day. The return screams "this card won't gem so I'm returning."
-Drop $600+ on an item without clear scans?
-Ask condition questions AFTER paying? Those questions should come before hitting the pay button.

Definitely would avoid in the future.

houdini · 03-02-2019, 06:43 PM

When they comment on the feedback, it sends the same message.

Brobocop · 03-02-2019, 06:45 PM

I'll say it so hopefully those in the back can hear, "IF YOU WANT A GRADED CARD, BUY A GRADED CARD!"

Honestly, I don't see any issues with that cad. Maybe I don't collect in the same ways others do, but honestly, in those photos, I just don't see anything that would upset me.

houdini · 03-02-2019, 06:48 PM

prospects · 03-02-2019, 06:53 PM

thank you Houdini

prospects · 03-04-2019, 04:02 PM

got the card back today. The back ding is so small you cannot even see it. What an embarrassment chainsaw is. Buyers remorse. DO NOT DEAL WITH HIM

jewcer2k5 · 03-04-2019, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by prospects

got the card back today. The back ding is so small you cannot even see it. What an embarrassment chainsaw is. Buyers remorse. DO NOT DEAL WITH HIM

How do you know it's so small if you can't see it?

prospects · 03-04-2019, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

How do you know it's so small if you can't see it?

Cannot see it unless I put it very close to my eye

LALeakers · 03-04-2019, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by prospects

Even after he left feedback ?

My goodness I’m done selling cards

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Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Done? I thought you were dead set on getting into this business...

Incredible.

Prospects....the irony of the stuff you post is uncanny.

shrevecity · 03-04-2019, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by prospects

Cannot see it unless I put it very close to my eye

ok.... That still makes it more opinion based than fact. We have all seen damage where one party says its small barely noticeable and others who see the same thing will say its a really troubling. You admt its there so it does fall into the eye of the beholder.

That said since you did not advertise it as gem mint and it seems you made it clear from the get go that little bit of damage should be expected. THen of course you have not posted any pics of the damage so really who knows.

GeechQuest · 03-05-2019, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by prospects

Cannot see it unless I put it very close to my eye

Inspecting cards be like.....

cking · 03-05-2019, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

-That card is not "damaged." It's grading a 9 at BGS all day. The return screams "this card won't gem so I'm returning."

This is exactly what I thought as well

Bigbluesooner · 03-05-2019, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Inspecting cards be like.....

Oh Boy!!! Hahaha, good one GeechQuest

chainsaw · 03-05-2019, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by prospects

got the card back today. The back ding is so small you cannot even see it. What an embarrassment chainsaw is. Buyers remorse. DO NOT DEAL WITH HIM

There was never a claim of any damage to the back, beyond the corner which showed white on the back side of the card.

The defect was to the front lower right quadrant.

I am glad the item was returned safely, and we were able to bring this matter to a resolution.

I'm glad you were able to get the card sold again.

Houdini reviewed the situation and believed that the negative feedback on my account should stay and was warranted. I have to respect that.

Best wishes and good luck with your future sales.

jstephens24 · 03-05-2019, 02:05 PM

well atleast chainsaw handled the responses professionally

tonedef2oo8 · 03-05-2019, 02:14 PM

Guess who most people are rising up to and won’t deal with here? Yup

03-02-2019, 05:26 PM	#60
imbluestreak23 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Meandering the matrix code that the hobby/forum overlords spit out Posts: 17,786 shortslabs	25% seller's fault, 75% buyers fault. Seller: -properly disclose ANY issue with the buyer -Do your due dilligence to protect yourself, if the buyer keeps asking pesky questions about condition/grading/gem potential, avoid. Hand writing on the wall -Always sell in a slab to reduce this potential, that's why I grade my non gems in my bulk orders. No point in dealing with a headache later on from some moron looking to outwit me Buyer: -That card is not "damaged." It's grading a 9 at BGS all day. The return screams "this card won't gem so I'm returning." -Drop $600+ on an item without clear scans? -Ask condition questions AFTER paying? Those questions should come before hitting the pay button. Definitely would avoid in the future. __________________ @shortslabs I'VE WITNESSED HOW THE SAUSAGE IS MADE HERE...IT'S ROTTEN https://www.youtube.com/c/TylerShort

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jstephens24 Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 2,601	well atleast chainsaw handled the responses professionally __________________ At the age of 5, a bear told me only I could prevent forest fires. Why I was chosen, I'll never know https://8thwondercards.weeblysite.com/ Twitter/IG: 8thWonderCards

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tonedef2oo8 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 7,331	Guess who most people are rising up to and won’t deal with here? Yup __________________ *“ I am very good at calculating stuff. 160+60=210 “*

03-02-2019, 02:57 PM	#53
kyleuk21 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,971 redlegs317 kyleuk21	Yea this seems like clear buyers remorse after reading it all.

03-02-2019, 03:01 PM	#55
prospects Banned Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 4,059	[QUOTE=LCM1223;14440451]Some sort of software glitch or something? Unless you did another deal with him a week ago.[/QUOT Idk what it is he just did

03-02-2019, 06:45 PM	#62
Brobocop Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 13,770 brobocop2	I'll say it so hopefully those in the back can hear, "IF YOU WANT A GRADED CARD, BUY A GRADED CARD!" Honestly, I don't see any issues with that cad. Maybe I don't collect in the same ways others do, but honestly, in those photos, I just don't see anything that would upset me.

03-02-2019, 06:53 PM	#64
prospects Banned Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 4,059	thank you Houdini

03-04-2019, 04:02 PM	#65
prospects Banned Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 4,059	got the card back today. The back ding is so small you cannot even see it. What an embarrassment chainsaw is. Buyers remorse. DO NOT DEAL WITH HIM