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Old 12-18-2018, 10:29 AM   #1826
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Hit a fresh reload today...one dude feeling/weighing single packs...later I checked it out and it was too much...like 7 mega, probably ten blasters (guessing) and two dozen cellos...and some searched gravity packs...left it all
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Old 12-18-2018, 10:35 AM   #1827
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Aside from jersey cards, which are definitely not the point of Prizm, how could you possibly know whether a pack is good or not by feeling/weighing?
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Old 12-18-2018, 10:38 AM   #1828
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ahhh sorry to hear that
If I knew I could flip it immediately I would but I’m an opener and have plenty right now
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Old 12-18-2018, 10:42 AM   #1829
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If I knew I could flip it immediately I would but I’m an opener and have plenty right now
i hear ya.

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Old 12-18-2018, 10:58 AM   #1830
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Aside from jersey cards, which are definitely not the point of Prizm, how could you possibly know whether a pack is good or not by feeling/weighing?
I've often wondered that as well
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Old 12-18-2018, 11:16 AM   #1831
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Opened a Mega Box last night..... Pink Ice Wendell Carter Jr. (which appears to be about a $2 card on ebay) was the only card of interest..... base rookies were people I haven't heard of (casual basketball fan) and three silvers were all vets......




just so everyone remembers not every break is a goldmine
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Old 12-18-2018, 11:17 AM   #1832
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Opened a Mega Box last night..... Pink Ice Wendell Carter Jr. (which appears to be about a $2 card on ebay) was the only card of interest..... base rookies were people I haven't heard of (casual basketball fan) and three silvers were all vets......




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did you enjoy the experience?
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Old 12-18-2018, 11:19 AM   #1833
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did you enjoy the experience?
eh not as much as opening other products honestly. but since my local walmart is fully stocked on this product (still more megas there, as well as the RWB packs and blasters) I figured to give it a shot.
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Old 12-18-2018, 11:23 AM   #1834
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I bought the 28 gravity packs I found against better judgement, but the pack searcher probably got an Eric Snow auto and 7 security stickers. I pulled 3 Purple Pulsar /35 including Holiday and Bates-Diop RCs. So there.
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Old 12-18-2018, 12:00 PM   #1835
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Aside from jersey cards, which are definitely not the point of Prizm, how could you possibly know whether a pack is good or not by feeling/weighing?
I think someone earlier posted the auto pack and purple pulsar packs weigh a little bit more.
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Old 12-18-2018, 12:06 PM   #1836
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Do people really bring a scale with them into Target/Walmart/etc?
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Old 12-18-2018, 12:15 PM   #1837
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Do people really bring a scale with them into Target/Walmart/etc?
Yes. People also take home packs, open them, and reseal the packs with common cards and then return them. There is certainly an ugly side to this hobby.
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Old 12-18-2018, 12:18 PM   #1838
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I think someone earlier posted the auto pack and purple pulsar packs weigh a little bit more.
Makes sense. I know from buying Pokémon for my son that the chase cards weigh slightly more, and pack searchers are onto it. I just didn’t see where it
Would apply with Prizm, but it makes sense that at least the autos weigh slightly more.
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Old 12-18-2018, 10:59 PM   #1839
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“How many packs are there in a target gravity box again? 36?

Went into a different target for first time and found a box with 37 packs. What do we make of that?

Restocked plus one old?
2 boxes combined?
Bonus pack with all luka pulsars?!?!”

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Alas no all luka pack, but still a fun break

3 purple pulsars /35 (these are really nice looking cars)
No autos
5 greens
9 silvers








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Old 12-18-2018, 11:44 PM   #1840
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What a haul! It might be a pain in the ass, but would you mind posting the total numbers of parallels per case (Silver/Green/Ruby Wave/Silver Insert/Green Insert)? gymratcards is tracking all SKUs in retail but there aren't many people busting cases.
I’ve finally pulled together enough information to make what I feel is a good, data-based estimate of the entire Prizm print run this year (hobby + retail). I listed out the totals for each Prizm parallel type and what that might mean for the future of Prizm rookie card values in a new blog post.
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I’ve finally pulled together enough information to make what I feel is a good, data-based estimate of the entire Prizm print run this year (hobby + retail). I listed out the totals for each Prizm parallel type and what that might mean for the future of Prizm rookie card values in a new blog post.
That’s awesome! Thanks for your time and effort and willingness to share
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Old 12-19-2018, 12:13 AM   #1842
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I’ve finally pulled together enough information to make what I feel is a good, data-based estimate of the entire Prizm print run this year (hobby + retail). I listed out the totals for each Prizm parallel type and what that might mean for the future of Prizm rookie card values in a new blog post.
Jeff,

Awesome post and well done.

Have you watched any “Choice” breaks? They contain silver prizms as well (2 per box)
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Old 12-19-2018, 01:08 AM   #1843
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I’ve finally pulled together enough information to make what I feel is a good, data-based estimate of the entire Prizm print run this year (hobby + retail). I listed out the totals for each Prizm parallel type and what that might mean for the future of Prizm rookie card values in a new blog post.
Dang that was a great read. Looking at the red and blue parallels I figured the silver production was around 4,000.
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Old 12-19-2018, 03:09 AM   #1844
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I’ve finally pulled together enough information to make what I feel is a good, data-based estimate of the entire Prizm print run this year (hobby + retail). I listed out the totals for each Prizm parallel type and what that might mean for the future of Prizm rookie card values in a new blog post.
I love your article, and if this hobby made sense you are right the silvers are way too high priced for how many there are, but the problem is everyone liked the silvers back when they were rare and they have become a staple, and people want them because of the consistency. Yes, I get it, people liked them because they were shiny and rare, but now they are not rare and people still like them. Once something becomes "the thing" in the card market it is very hard for it to get pushed aside, people love the prizm silvers and a lot of money is invested in them, I just dont know if all of a sudden prices will just plummet on them
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Old 12-19-2018, 08:13 AM   #1845
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Grabbed 20 rack packs this morning. Will bust after work.
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Old 12-19-2018, 10:16 AM   #1846
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I’ve finally pulled together enough information to make what I feel is a good, data-based estimate of the entire Prizm print run this year (hobby + retail). I listed out the totals for each Prizm parallel type and what that might mean for the future of Prizm rookie card values in a new blog post.
Amazing dude! Congrats! I can't even imagine the amount of hours you've spend watching videos on Youtube to do this lol.

About the analysis, I think everything is on point; but this hobby is weird and for some reason, it treats unnumbered stuff differently than numbered (another example of this is Galactics outselling Lavas in previous years despite having a higher print run). I have no idea what would happen with Silvers down the line.

I'm working on something to get the average value per SKU. I hope you don't mind me using your numbers in order to establish an average of what should be expected per unit.
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Old 12-19-2018, 10:24 AM   #1847
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I’ve finally pulled together enough information to make what I feel is a good, data-based estimate of the entire Prizm print run this year (hobby + retail). I listed out the totals for each Prizm parallel type and what that might mean for the future of Prizm rookie card values in a new blog post.
Thank you for your info. I've been collecting Doncic Silvers and so I may have some bias. You have to understand you're comparing Doncics Silvers to the rarest Topps Chrome year ever. Topps Chrome didnt even have a release in 2009 as they were hastily inserted into Topps Hobby boxes. Even Lebrons Topps Chrome would seem waay overpriced in comparison if you used the same math as you did on Doncics Silver.

The better year to do this calculation is on 2003 Topps Chrome and its refractors IMO. Of course estimating a print run for 2003 Topps Chrome is a much trickier task.

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Old 12-19-2018, 10:26 AM   #1848
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Amazing dude! Congrats! I can't even imagine the amount of hours you've spend watching videos on Youtube to do this lol.

About the analysis, I think everything is on point; but this hobby is weird and for some reason, it treats unnumbered stuff differently than numbered (another example of this is Galactics outselling Lavas in previous years despite having a higher print run). I have no idea what would happen with Silvers down the line.

I'm working on something to get the average value per SKU. I hope you don't mind me using your numbers in order to establish an average of what should be expected per unit.
Legacy matters big. Galactic was always the card in Revolution. Lavas showed up in year three and are only a base parallel. There’s a galactic parallel of every non auto in the set. I have plenty of the Lavas from last year’s release, but wouldn’t expect them to ever outsell the Galactics or even come that close. It just simply won’t ever be “the card” to have in Revolution.

I think the silvers will still hold their value as they’re seen as the true rookie to chase. For me, the /50, /75, /200, etc all get lumped in as these goofy random parallels. A pink pulsar /50 or whatever doesn’t mean a damn thing to me. It’s just some oddball parallel, and ugly to boot.
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Legacy matters big. Galactic was always the card in Revolution. Lavas showed up in year three and are only a base parallel. There’s a galactic parallel of every non auto in the set. I have plenty of the Lavas from last year’s release, but wouldn’t expect them to ever outsell the Galactics or even come that close. It just simply won’t ever be “the card” to have in Revolution.

I think the silvers will still hold their value as they’re seen as the true rookie to chase. For me, the /50, /75, /200, etc all get lumped in as these goofy random parallels. A pink pulsar /50 or whatever doesn’t mean a damn thing to me. It’s just some oddball parallel, and ugly to boot.
That's kinda my point. Maybe Lava was a bad example, look at Futuras: for the first year of Revolution, they had a slightly higher print run than Galactics (25 vs 20). Yet their prices are nowhere near.

I not only think that Silvers will hold their prices but actually outperform them. That was my point about unnumbered parallels.
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Does anyone know the production numbers of the Red, White & Blue parallels? Sorry if this has already been stated.
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