Are we in a prospect bubble?

JoeAdam · 11-28-2018, 11:31 AM

I understand people chasing the “next big thing”, but some of these prospect cards are selling for more than almost everyone except maybe Trout. Even if these guys turn out to be MVP-World Series winners I.e. Betts and Bryant how much higher can their cards go? It seems like once they go pro people move on to the next shiny object. Thoughts?

Tim · 11-28-2018, 11:32 AM

how many different "bubble" threads do we have now?

fenwaykid · 11-28-2018, 11:33 AM

YES and I LOVE IT

ThoseBackPages · 11-28-2018, 11:33 AM

i hope so!

Zauron · 11-28-2018, 11:35 AM

It still baffles me a guy who has never had a major league at bat sells for a grand, and a sure fire HOFer(Albert Pujols) sell for less than that.

JoeAdam · 11-28-2018, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim

how many different "bubble" threads do we have now?

Apologies if this has been brought up. Too lazy at work to search.

jewcer2k5 · 11-28-2018, 11:39 AM

What an original thread.

unclemonkey · 11-28-2018, 11:45 AM

Nah....

JoeAdam · 11-28-2018, 11:49 AM

I guess I should rephrase the question. Do people actually expect to profit off of Vlad Jr at these prices when cards of MVP winners go for significantly less?

jewcer2k5 · 11-28-2018, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeAdam

I guess I should rephrase the question. Do people actually expect to profit off of Vlad Jr at these prices when cards of MVP winners go for significantly less?

Yes..

ThoseBackPages · 11-28-2018, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeAdam

I guess I should rephrase the question. Do people actually expect to profit off of Vlad Jr at these prices when cards of MVP winners go for significantly less?

dude!

"Currently collecting Juan Soto Heritage and Topps Chrome Update"

Peties Army · 11-28-2018, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim

how many different "bubble" threads do we have now?

I think we are in a bubble thread bubble

JoeAdam · 11-28-2018, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

dude!

"Currently collecting Juan Soto Heritage and Topps Chrome Update"

Lol. I’m trying to turn $5 into $10, not $1k into $2k. I wish tho.

Stech36 · 11-28-2018, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Zauron

It still baffles me a guy who has never had a major league at bat sells for a grand, and a sure fire HOFer(Albert Pujols) sell for less than that.

His BC Auto sells for much more than a grand

Zauron · 11-28-2018, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Stech36

His BC Auto sells for much more than a grand

SPX sold for $250, SP Authentic sold for $500 graded a PSA 10, Finest PSA 9 sold for $225, Bowman sold for $600 as a BGS 9.5

I wasn't really talking about his Chrome auto, but you could get those 4 cards for the price one BC Refractor Vlad Jr is selling for. I mean, if we were talking Soto or Acuna, okay they are amazing prospects who excelled in the majors. But he has zero at bats in the majors.

Stech36 · 11-28-2018, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Zauron

SPX sold for $250, SP Authentic sold for $500 graded a PSA 10, Finest PSA 9 sold for $225, Bowman sold for $600 as a BGS 9.5

I wasn't really talking about his Chrome auto, but you could get those 4 cards for the price one BC Refractor Vlad Jr is selling for. I mean, if we were talking Soto or Acuna, okay they are amazing prospects who excelled in the majors. But he has zero at bats in the majors.

Yeah, good point on that one.

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Chrisyork33 · 11-28-2018, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeAdam

I understand people chasing the “next big thing”, but some of these prospect cards are selling for more than almost everyone except maybe Trout. Even if these guys turn out to be MVP-World Series winners I.e. Betts and Bryant how much higher can their cards go? It seems like once they go pro people move on to the next shiny object. Thoughts?

I thought we all agreed we wouldn't let the marks in on the scam and just keep pushing the _______insert prospect name here_____ hype train?

Soxfanguy · 11-28-2018, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Zauron

It still baffles me a guy who has never had a major league at bat sells for a grand, and a sure fire HOFer(Albert Pujols) sell for less than that.

Who is this?

unclemonkey · 11-28-2018, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeAdam

I guess I should rephrase the question. Do people actually expect to profit off of Vlad Jr at these prices when cards of MVP winners go for significantly less?

Judge, Bellinger, Acuna, and Soto have set a high bar soooooo high.

The contrarian in me has a hard time believing a Toronto Blue Jay reaching those Rookie levels and sustaining value.

I missed the Vlad boat, and the few cards in my inventory are going to be sold around Spring training.

That said, a poker buddy of mine has a son in the Blue Jay system.

He said the whole organization is in awe of VJr.

Maybe he sparks a Canadian collector boom?

azbaseballfan · 11-28-2018, 12:28 PM

Prices for average prospects have doubled or tripled since I started collecting prospects in the early 2000's. I think what we are seeing is caused by the waves that huge talents like Acuna and Vlad are creating. When people witness the pay day for people who got in early on Acuna/Vlad types they get FOMO and buy up the #3-#20 organizational top prospect types. I can't find a decently priced "sleeper" pick to save my life anymore.

JoeAdam · 11-28-2018, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by azbaseballfan

Prices for average prospects have doubled or tripled since I started collecting prospects in the early 2000's. I think what we are seeing is caused by the waves that huge talents like Acuna and Vlad are creating. When people witness the pay day for people who got in early on Acuna/Vlad types they get FOMO and buy up the #3-#20 organizational top prospect types. I can't find a decently priced "sleeper" pick to save my life anymore.

This is more the point I was trying to make. There will always be a market for the big guys. Well said.

hawkfandan · 11-28-2018, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeAdam

It seems like once they go pro people move on to the next shiny object. Thoughts?

Wash, rinse, repeat.

Such is the nature of prospecting.

azbaseballfan · 11-28-2018, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeAdam

This is more the point I was trying to make. There will always be a market for the big guys. Well said.

Yeah, agree that the big guys will always command top dollar. But It’s the prices that mid-talent prospects are garnering that amazes me.

fenwaykid · 11-28-2018, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by azbaseballfan

Yeah, agree that the big guys will always command top dollar. But It’s the prices that mid-talent prospects are garnering that amazes me.

This 100%. There's an OF prospect who hit .279 last year with 9 HRs and 7 SBs in 473 ABs. His blues gems sell for over $500.

JrFinest · 11-28-2018, 03:33 PM

The hype is real. Just need to be selective on whom you go after. I missed getting in on Vlad price wise ,but acquired quite a bit of early Acuna's before the current boom.

Its a new way to collect. So many people missed out on Trout, and now everyone wants to try to get in on the next big superstar. Unfortunately this is also leading to over inflated production levels. What will most of it be worth in a decade or so? Depends on the player and how accessible the card is.

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JoeAdam Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,996 sjoteo joeadam	I guess I should rephrase the question. Do people actually expect to profit off of Vlad Jr at these prices when cards of MVP winners go for significantly less? __________________ @the_ace_of_cards on IG “You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take - Wayne Gretzky” - Michael Scott

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Tim Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 6,744	how many different "bubble" threads do we have now?

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azbaseballfan Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 2,037 bowmanbowser	Prices for average prospects have doubled or tripled since I started collecting prospects in the early 2000's. I think what we are seeing is caused by the waves that huge talents like Acuna and Vlad are creating. When people witness the pay day for people who got in early on Acuna/Vlad types they get FOMO and buy up the #3-#20 organizational top prospect types. I can't find a decently priced "sleeper" pick to save my life anymore.

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JrFinest Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,117 jrfinest_cards	The hype is real. Just need to be selective on whom you go after. I missed getting in on Vlad price wise ,but acquired quite a bit of early Acuna's before the current boom. Its a new way to collect. So many people missed out on Trout, and now everyone wants to try to get in on the next big superstar. Unfortunately this is also leading to over inflated production levels. What will most of it be worth in a decade or so? Depends on the player and how accessible the card is.