Addison Russell Domestic Abuse

[Peties Army]

Originally Posted by texmcpherson

Irregardless the fact being you're making assumptions to the situation. It was a very general statement.

“Urgh, why read when I can’t just randomly pick apart phrases!”

[texmcpherson]

Originally Posted by Peties Army

“Urgh, why read when I can’t just randomly pick apart phrases!”

You're literally saying generally speaking people in Russell's position are more often than not, guilty.

[Peties Army]

Originally Posted by texmcpherson

You're literally saying generally speaking people in Russell's position are more often than not, guilty.

I never made assumption about russell,so that’s incorrect.

I merely responded to a post that pointed out most people who are accused were found to have done something more often then not,never said that russel was guilty. Then a few post later I said there seems to be a lot going on here to not be something going on, which means maybe she was doing something

But hey i 100% reading all these words is a lot.

[Hollywood42]

You are an adult male, use full sentences.

Originally Posted by Peties Army

But hey i 100% reading all these words is a lot.

[Blue_Devil]

This board isn't a court of law. MLB isn't a court of law. If you can read that blog post and not see the genuine in it then Lord have mercy. I have to applaud MLB for taking steps today. I was a cop for 4 years and I can tell you there are 2 things in this world I absolutely despise. Drunk drivers and men that beat up on women.

[Peties Army]

Originally Posted by Hollywood42

You are an adult male, use full sentences.

Lol..

[Firerunner4]

He just seems like a classy fella in general, 24 years old and 3 kids with 3 different ladies. He’s like a 90’s NFL player

[texmcpherson]

Originally Posted by Peties Army

I never made assumption about russell,so that’s incorrect.

I merely responded to a post that pointed out most people who are accused were found to have done something more often then not,never said that russel was guilty. Then a few post later I said there seems to be a lot going on here to not be something going on, which means maybe she was doing something

But hey i 100% reading all these words is a lot.

Trying to make people out to be ignorant when making posts doesn't make you look intelligent. You just look like an ass.

[Peties Army]

Originally Posted by texmcpherson

Trying to make people out to be ignorant when making posts doesn't make you look intelligent. You just look like an ass.

I didn’t do that. All I said was read the the post before you started correcting it. You didn’t. Not trying to make anyone look ignorant. Just saying.
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[Chicosbailbonds]

Originally Posted by AnthonyCorona

How many people have known a woman in an abusive relationship? Abusers constantly threaten their victims and both can go in public and you would never know. I hope most here haven't had a loved one to through it but those who have probably know what I'm talking about

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This.

[Cubsfanp]

Originally Posted by AnthonyCorona

How many people have known a woman in an abusive relationship? Abusers constantly threaten their victims and both can go in public and you would never know. I hope most here haven't had a loved one to through it but those who have probably know what I'm talking about

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Since you want to play on emotion, rather than level headed thinking i will play your game too.

How many people have known a man or woman who was falsely accused and lost his job? The loss of public perception and career ambitions are destroyed. I hope most here will never go though the experience but those who know someone you has you know what I'm talking about.

[Hollywood42]

Originally Posted by Cubsfanp

Since you want to play on emotion, rather than level headed thinking i will play your game too.

How many people have known a man or woman who was falsely accused and lost his job? The loss of public perception and career ambitions are destroyed. I hope most here will never go though the experience but those who know someone you has you know what I'm talking about.

[Chicosbailbonds]

Originally Posted by Cubsfanp

Since you want to play on emotion, rather than level headed thinking i will play your game too.

How many people have known a man or woman who was falsely accused and lost his job? The loss of public perception and career ambitions are destroyed. I hope most here will never go though the experience but those who know someone you has you know what I'm talking about.

I'm a Cubs fan so I have no agenda here. Patrick Kane was falsely accused in Buffalo a couple of years ago for some improprieties. Looking back at it, Russel's wife needed to follow thru on it (if it happened). Its hard though when you are behind the 8 ball when married to a public figure, hoping to save a marriage, and raising his kid.

[glassnickels]

Originally Posted by Cubsfanp

Since you want to play on emotion, rather than level headed thinking i will play your game too.

How many people have known a man or woman who was falsely accused and lost his job? The loss of public perception and career ambitions are destroyed. I hope most here will never go though the experience but those who know someone you has you know what I'm talking about.

I'm a Cubs fan too. I can say many to the first question and absolutely none to the latter. Even when found guilty they get their jobs back a la Chapman. And people ran to the defense of Ray freaking Rice with video! (No I'm not saying all of these situations is the same or assuming Addy is guilty). To keep trotting out this myth of the falsely accused losing their livelihoods is disingenuous. Again, I'm not here to decide what the truth is but I don't mind him getting leave to have it investigated.

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[jr24ai3]

Originally Posted by Chicosbailbonds

I'm a Cubs fan so I have no agenda here. Patrick Kane was falsely accused in Buffalo a couple of years ago for some improprieties. Looking back at it, Russel's wife needed to follow thru on it (if it happened). Its hard though when you are behind the 8 ball when married to a public figure, hoping to save a marriage, and raising his kid.

falsely accused is different than a lack of evidence to move forward. And he was also accused of assault in LA.

I'm in Chicago and I never hear anyone talk about Patrick Kane and the rape accusations.

[Cubsfanp]

Originally Posted by Hollywood42

not sure if you took my post seriously, but this is exactly the response i was expecting

[Cubsfanp]

Originally Posted by glassnickels

I'm a Cubs fan too. I can say many to the first question and absolutely none to the latter. Even when found guilty they get their jobs back a la Chapman. And people ran to the defense of Ray freaking Rice with video! (No I'm not saying all of these situations is the same or assuming Addy is guilty). To keep trotting out this myth of the falsely accused losing their livelihoods is disingenuous. Again, I'm not here to decide what the truth is but I don't mind him getting leave to have it investigated.

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Correct me if i am wrong because i don't follow football as well as i should, but didn't Ray Rice never play again? He should have gotten much worse.

[glassnickels]

Originally Posted by Cubsfanp

Correct me if i am wrong because i don't follow football as well as i should, but didn't Ray Rice never play again? He should have gotten much worse.

Correct but it had more to do with him being at the end of his career I think and there was video! Many many people defended him. Defended that man of all people! So yeah I don't shed a lot of tears for these guys sorry. To say that SO MANY men are ruined by false accusations is ridiculous and you know it. Especially compared with how many of these dudes get off with nothing because the women are afraid to report or badgered into dropping it.

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[jr24ai3]

To those saying innocent until proven guilty....what kind of evidence would you need to see to find him guilty?

If she has pictures of bruises that she says is from Russell, is that good enough? Or would you say that bruise could have been caused by anything....

It's one of those things that is hard to prove without video evidence.

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by Cubsfanp

Correct me if i am wrong because i don't follow football as well as i should, but didn't Ray Rice never play again? He should have gotten much worse.

His wife didn't want to press charges, forgave him, and wanted to work things out. What more should he have gotten if the actual victim cares less about him getting punished than you do?

[Hollywood42]

I mean you're right, I (or whoever else) shouldn't be able to make up whatever BS I want about, say, Mike Trout and ruin his career just because I feel like it for whatever reason. But like nickles is saying, it's ridiculous to suggest that there's as many people's lives and reputations being ruined due to false accusations as there are valid allegations. That's just not happening. So yeah, that post deserves a big , IMO

Originally Posted by Cubsfanp

not sure if you took my post seriously, but this is exactly the response i was expecting

That's the thing, cases like this are very hard to prove as we're used to proving cases. It's something that the world is still trying to figure out how to handle. You obviously can't assume someone guilty, but you typically can't rely on hard physical evidence in this stuff either

Originally Posted by jr24ai3

To those saying innocent until proven guilty....what kind of evidence would you need to see to find him guilty?

If she has pictures of bruises that she says is from Russell, is that good enough? Or would you say that bruise could have been caused by anything....

It's one of those things that is hard to prove without video evidence.

[Cubsfanp]

Originally Posted by jr24ai3

To those saying innocent until proven guilty....what kind of evidence would you need to see to find him guilty?

If she has pictures of bruises that she says is from Russell, is that good enough? Or would you say that bruise could have been caused by anything....

It's one of those things that is hard to prove without video evidence.

Police report is good enough for me. Social media only though....nah.

[jr24ai3]

Originally Posted by Hollywood42

That's the thing, cases like this are very hard to prove as we're used to proving cases. It's something that the world is still trying to figure out how to handle. You obviously can't assume someone guilty, but you typically can't rely on hard physical evidence in this stuff either

If I was on a jury I wouldn't convict him without the proper evidence. But I'm not on a jury. When it's a case of rape or domestic abuse, I lean towards believing the victim until I hear something that contradicts it.

I don't see how this can benefit the accuser in any way. She was married so I assume she already got 1/2 and gets child support - so not a money grab in my opinion.

Also back when her friend made accusations back in 2017, she wouldn't admit to it happening or deny it. If it didn't happen, I feel she would have defended Russell back then. Instead she remained quiet.

[fungi2510]

Originally Posted by Cubsfanp

Police report is good enough for me. Social media only though....nah.

That is the issue, she is comfortable with going this route. She knows that it will get out there which is what she needs. I doubt she trusts the police to do their job. We have seen time and again how the justice system and police have let down people. Now it is out there and coupled with the information from last year, we have a pretty good idea what is going on. Maybe she is just a liar looking for attention, but I am in the camp of trusting people who come forward in the way that they feel comfortable.

[CardBoard4Life]

Originally Posted by Cubsfanp

Correct me if i am wrong because i don't follow football as well as i should, but didn't Ray Rice never play again? He should have gotten much worse.

What does the Ray Rice and Joe Mixon incident have in common? That's right, a woman decided to hit a professional athlete first.