More fakes from China - PMG, Star Rubies, Plat Medallion - Page 11

COMCMax · 08-14-2018, 10:15 AM

Oooof...who thought this was a good idea.

97-98 Kobe Bryant PSA/DNA JSA GAI Precious Metal Gem PMG Signed AUTO Autograph

Kardbordkrakhed · 08-14-2018, 12:17 PM

So it's a reprint PMG with a real autograph?

a little worrisome, didn't know there were reprint/counterfeit PMG reds. lovely.

COMCMax · 08-14-2018, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kardbordkrakhed

So it's a reprint PMG with a real autograph?

a little worrisome, didn't know there were reprint/counterfeit PMG reds. lovely.

Pretty sure its real. Someone had it signed and authenticated. Not my cup of tea ,but someone was willing to spend 5 figures on it.

duron · 08-14-2018, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by COMCMax

Oooof...who thought this was a good idea.

97-98 Kobe Bryant PSA/DNA JSA GAI Precious Metal Gem PMG Signed AUTO Autograph

I get what you mean about possibly hurting resell value, but I think that looks amazing. Great spot for the sig.

COMCMax · 08-14-2018, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by duron

I get what you mean about possibly hurting resell value, but I think that looks amazing. Great spot for the sig.

Its a older Kobe signature to ,so the it probably seemed like a good idea at the time. IP autographs have just always been a turnoff to me. Which is funny because I like retro buyback autographs certified through the card manufactors.

GOLDPRIZM · 08-14-2018, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by COMCMax

Pretty sure its real. Someone had it signed and authenticated. Not my cup of tea ,but someone was willing to spend 5 figures on it.

I believe the card was relisted a week or two later and did not sell the 2nd time around.

gslayton · 08-14-2018, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by COMCMax

Its a older Kobe signature to ,so the it probably seemed like a good idea at the time. IP autographs have just always been a turnoff to me. Which is funny because I like retro buyback autographs certified through the card manufactors.

That pmg was sold by a member on here, raw unsigned, around a year ago.

Kardbordkrakhed · 08-14-2018, 11:39 PM

The reason I thought it was fake was because psa labeled it as “trading card”, which I’ve only seen them do with non licensed or even reprint cards. Anyone know why they labeled it as trading card?

COMCMax · 08-15-2018, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Kardbordkrakhed

The reason I thought it was fake was because psa labeled it as “trading card”, which I’ve only seen them do with non licensed or even reprint cards. Anyone know why they labeled it as trading card?

Yea, lot of things odd about it ,but I think it's the real deal.

AlabamaSlamma · 08-15-2018, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by duron

I get what you mean about possibly hurting resell value, but I think that looks amazing. Great spot for the sig.

Ha, and here I thought I was the only one. I also think it looks really sharp. The signature turned out a lot better on that textured surface than I would've guessed.

COMCMax · 08-15-2018, 07:58 AM

It was juts graded this January according to the paperwork ,but that Kobe signature is 10+ years old. I wonder if it was a recently unearthed collection.

COMCMax · 08-16-2018, 08:50 AM

Found it on worthpoint. It sold for $1300ish before it got signed ,so looks like the seller still made out.

svacardsllc · 08-16-2018, 09:12 AM

This makes me wonder there was a person that popped up on a facebook group that was mad psa rejected all his cards as fakes he was out of Taiwan also he had nothing but rare as hell cards PMGS and more if they were real the street price had to be around 200k dollars or so maybe more and people started offering to buy them idk if he sold any

COMCMax · 08-17-2018, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by svacardsllc

This makes me wonder there was a person that popped up on a facebook group that was mad psa rejected all his cards as fakes he was out of Taiwan also he had nothing but rare as hell cards PMGS and more if they were real the street price had to be around 200k dollars or so maybe more and people started offering to buy them idk if he sold any

I've still not seen a PMG metal red/green reprint. The closest thing to one was a custom someone made a few years back ,but they didn't copy the original. It was just based off of it ,but it looked damn good. See if I can scrounge up a photo of it.

CP3toOKC · 08-17-2018, 06:29 PM

Can someone tell me if this is real?

Doublexthebeast · 08-17-2018, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CP3toOKC

Can someone tell me if this is real?

Can you show the entire card? At first glance it looks ok but no way I’d sign off on it without seeing several good pics of the entire card- front and back.

Harper · 08-17-2018, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CP3toOKC

Can someone tell me if this is real?

Have these cards been known to be faked?

COMCMax · 08-18-2018, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CP3toOKC

Can someone tell me if this is real?

Got a photo of the rest of the card?

Deon01 · 08-20-2018, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by COMCMax

I've still not seen a PMG metal red/green reprint. The closest thing to one was a custom someone made a few years back ,but they didn't copy the original. It was just based off of it ,but it looked damn good. See if I can scrounge up a photo of it.

The time has probably come for PMG green (may be red) reprint.
Penny exemple with 11 PMG Green

Unfortunately, 2 only have a known back... :

1 - Nat Turner one of course (1) :

2 - The one sold on Ebay on 2014/12/19 (1) :

3 - Malone32 (Jordan fakes seller) had/has two (2) :

4 - One found on GoogleImages from nbacardDOTnet (1) :

5 - One just appeared on IG from ballofhistory(J. Park) (1) :

6 - The best for the end... : Five PMG Green published on Facebook Group (HotSpot) during 2015 March (5) :

Total count : 11 PMG Green ; with big doubts on this last picture of course... Some of them have probably already been sold, but it's pretty crazy to have seen almost all Penny PMG <= 10/100 !
If fake PMG haven't yet appeared, they'll be in more or less close future imo.

SanAntonioSpurs · 08-20-2018, 07:20 AM

I would think the red/green PMGs would be harder to reprint because the front isn’t a smooth surface and has a little texture to it. It’s more likely the ones from the bankruptcy that weren’t stamped?

jjohnson814 · 08-20-2018, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Deon01

The time has probably come for PMG green (may be red) reprint.
Penny exemple with 11 PMG Green

Unfortunately, 2 only have a known back... :

1 - Nat Turner one of course (1) :

2 - The one sold on Ebay on 2014/12/19 (1) :

3 - Malone32 (Jordan fakes seller) had/has two (2) :

4 - One found on GoogleImages from nbacardDOTnet (1) :

5 - One just appeared on IG from ballofhistory(J. Park) (1) :

6 - The best for the end... : Five PMG Green published on Facebook Group (HotSpot) during 2015 March (5) :

Total count : 11 PMG Green ; with big doubts on this last picture of course... Some of them have probably already been sold, but it's pretty crazy to have seen almost all Penny PMG <= 10/100 !
If fake PMG haven't yet appeared, they'll be in more or less close future imo.

The one from nbacarddotnet and the recent one from IG look to be the same card looking at all the imperfections. Someone else double check me on that.

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Kardbordkrakhed · 08-20-2018, 10:02 AM

Many or some of these cards COULD be the same card(s). Without seeing the serial number, and even if they showed the serial number doesn't mean the picture was just taken. Could be old pictures, i'm sure some of these cards have transferred hands either through public auctions or private sellings.

bblaue1 · 08-20-2018, 10:33 AM

Thoughts on this one....

Duncan Metal Championship PMG

SanAntonioSpurs · 08-20-2018, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bblaue1

Thoughts on this one....

Duncan Metal Championship PMG

Addressed as fake starting with post 85 - 100 in this thread.

COMCMax · 08-20-2018, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Kardbordkrakhed

Many or some of these cards COULD be the same card(s). Without seeing the serial number, and even if they showed the serial number doesn't mean the picture was just taken. Could be old pictures, i'm sure some of these cards have transferred hands either through public auctions or private sellings.

Yea, without the backs you have to assume at least one of them are the same card.

08-16-2018, 09:12 AM	#263
svacardsllc Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Virginia Posts: 238 svacards	This makes me wonder there was a person that popped up on a facebook group that was mad psa rejected all his cards as fakes he was out of Taiwan also he had nothing but rare as hell cards PMGS and more if they were real the street price had to be around 200k dollars or so maybe more and people started offering to buy them idk if he sold any Last edited by svacardsllc; 08-16-2018 at 09:31 AM.

08-17-2018, 06:29 PM	#265
CP3toOKC Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: OK Posts: 5,051 soonerfan187	Can someone tell me if this is real? Attached Thumbnails __________________ PM me if you have CP3 autos in Thunder uniform for sale Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/191230765@N06/albums

08-20-2018, 10:33 AM	#273
bblaue1 Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 877 blaue2014 bblaue1	Thoughts on this one.... Duncan Metal Championship PMG __________________ Collecting Pre-retirement David Robinson, 90's Jordan, 80's Star, Gold bullion, love.... IG: nbspursfan

08-14-2018, 10:15 AM	#251
COMCMax Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 8,912 Maximoose	Oooof...who thought this was a good idea. 97-98 Kobe Bryant PSA/DNA JSA GAI Precious Metal Gem PMG Signed AUTO Autograph

08-14-2018, 12:17 PM	#252
Kardbordkrakhed Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 271	So it's a reprint PMG with a real autograph? a little worrisome, didn't know there were reprint/counterfeit PMG reds. lovely.

08-14-2018, 11:39 PM	#258
Kardbordkrakhed Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 271	The reason I thought it was fake was because psa labeled it as “trading card”, which I’ve only seen them do with non licensed or even reprint cards. Anyone know why they labeled it as trading card?

08-15-2018, 07:58 AM	#261
COMCMax Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 8,912 Maximoose	It was juts graded this January according to the paperwork ,but that Kobe signature is 10+ years old. I wonder if it was a recently unearthed collection.

08-16-2018, 08:50 AM	#262
COMCMax Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 8,912 Maximoose	Found it on worthpoint. It sold for $1300ish before it got signed ,so looks like the seller still made out.

08-20-2018, 07:20 AM	#270
SanAntonioSpurs Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Richmond TX Posts: 1,568 SanAntonioSpurs21 SanAntonioSpurs21	I would think the red/green PMGs would be harder to reprint because the front isn’t a smooth surface and has a little texture to it. It’s more likely the ones from the bankruptcy that weren’t stamped?

08-20-2018, 10:02 AM	#272
Kardbordkrakhed Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 271	Many or some of these cards COULD be the same card(s). Without seeing the serial number, and even if they showed the serial number doesn't mean the picture was just taken. Could be old pictures, i'm sure some of these cards have transferred hands either through public auctions or private sellings.