Brad Hand to the Indians - Page 6

lambeauleap87 · 07-19-2018, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bulls90s

Mejia reminds me of Pudge!

Have you ever watched Mejia or even read a scouting report on him?

awz50 · 07-19-2018, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bulls90s

Wow, #1 overall catching prospect for a closer?

When was the last time that happened?

Mejia reminds me of Pudge!

Steroids or non steroid pudge?

awz50 · 07-19-2018, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lambeauleap87

Have you ever watched Mejia or even read a scouting report on him?

Maybe he is talking about Washington national version of pudge

asujbl · 07-19-2018, 04:12 PM

Absolutely love this trade for Cleveland

Mejia is a fantastic prospect. Nothing bad to say.

But neither of the RP’s are rentals (big) and it’s time to make a run over the next 2-3 years

Mejia also refuses to play OF (for Cleveland at least) and he isn’t replacing Gomes and Perez

It was time to move him

derekdowding · 07-19-2018, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jataman2612

1. Lindor
2. Ramirez
3. Kluber

you forgot Trevor Bauer

derekdowding · 07-19-2018, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by prospects

I do not want the idea of my posts to be mistaken, yes they could get better but they have underachieved BIG time. My main point is brad hand has never been in the postseason and I do not think he will help this team.

so just because you have never pitched in the playoffs that makes you a bad player? or wont help the team out? is this what im getting?

Bulls90s · 07-19-2018, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lambeauleap87

Have you ever watched Mejia or even read a scouting report on him?

Absolutely..watched him play 2.5 weeks ago..he had a great game,offense and defense.

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Originally Posted by awz50

Steroids or non steroid pudge?

Ah,ya got jokes!

I remember they tried to trade Mejia for Lucroy.

asujbl · 07-19-2018, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bulls90s

Absolutely..watched him play 2.5 weeks ago..he had a great game,offense and defense.

Ah,ya got jokes!

I remember they tried to trade Mejia for Lucroy.

2.5 weeks?

You should write an autobiography on him.

stellablue · 07-19-2018, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by awz50

Steroids or non steroid pudge?

I hadn't heard of Carlton Fisk and the steroid connection...

prospects · 07-19-2018, 05:43 PM

Nope, my statement is based on the fact that Brad Hand wont pitch well under pressure. Great, he pitched to a 3 era in san diego in front of one thousand fans, congrats.

Come october, I am bumping this thread. Until then, we wait.

asujbl · 07-19-2018, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by prospects

Nope, my statement is based on the fact that Brad Hand wont pitch well under pressure. Great, he pitched to a 3 era in san diego in front of one thousand fans, congrats.

Come october, I am bumping this thread. Until then, we wait.

Do you hate Kershaw? I bet you hate Kershaw.

prospects · 07-19-2018, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

Do you hate Kershaw? I bet you hate Kershaw.

lmao, the choke king.

prospects · 07-19-2018, 05:49 PM

I never thought i would see all of this excitement over brad hand.

prospects · 07-19-2018, 05:51 PM

brad "hand" me a hanger that will be popped in the playoffs!

asujbl · 07-19-2018, 05:54 PM

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brad "hand" me a hanger that will be popped in the playoffs!

Mom or Sister?

Firerunner4 · 07-19-2018, 07:14 PM

What PBM is Prospects?

blackandgold · 07-19-2018, 07:57 PM

I watched Hand his whole career with Miami and saw him pitch a handful of AAA games live He’s extremely streaky I really thought his career would die out in San Diego. Good luck to him

crd1224 · 07-19-2018, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by prospects

brad "hand" me a hanger that will be popped in the playoffs!

Did Brad Hand steal your girl?

hohlernr · 07-19-2018, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lambeauleap87

I'm over the moon with this trade, great move by Antonetti and Chernoff to get this done for significantly less than what the industry expected the cost to be. Best reliever on the market with several years of control, plus adding another solid arm in Cimber. This also kicks the Indians window open several more years because that window was getting short with Miller/Allen set to leave.

It also helps to add another (almost) top tier arm to the 'pen (0.7 fWAR after a rough month, although WAR may not be best for relievers) with a crazy K/9 and the ability to go multiple innings. If Miller can come back healthy, Miller/Allen/Hand shutting the door behind Kluber/Bauer/Clevinger/Carrasco makes for a scary run of pitchers if the Indians get a lead.

They have starting pitching and an elite infield locked in for awhile, the bullpen and outfield needed addressed for the Indians to be a contender for several more years. This really helps to answer that bullpen question.

I'm sad to see Mejia go, but I'm glad the Indians were able to maximize value. He wants to catch, but he's not much of a catcher. He refused to play OF at the ML level, and he was a terrible third baseman. There's no spot for him, and his bat loses a lot of value in a corner OF slot. The Indians weren't going to let him catch behind Perez/Gomes. It makes a ton of sense for both teams; the Indians needed a reliever, and they got the best one available...plus a secondary piece.

Bottom line, they extended the window, and they increased their chances at winning this year significantly, all while getting much better value than what the industry expected. Huge, outstanding move by the Indians. If anybody's after Mejia stuff, though, I've got some to get rid of!

Thanks for saving me the trouble of writing this. You are right on all accounts. Everyone who thinks the Indians somehow "lost" this trade simply does not know the value of controlling these players for multiple years at a very low cost. Comparing this trade to Stanton from last year or Machado is apples to oranges.

Simply put the Indians traded a very high risk/ high reward prospect that was completely blocked at the major league level with character concerns for the best reliever on the market and another solid bullpen arm. By doing so they successfully increased their window of contention for 2-3 more years. In all honesty I think this is a great trade for both teams - the Padres are going to be super fun to watch over the next several years.

Bulls90s · 07-19-2018, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by blackandgold

I watched Hand his whole career with Miami and saw him pitch a handful of AAA games live He’s extremely streaky I really thought his career would die out in San Diego. Good luck to him

Im really concerned..he never pitched in AL.

rman112 · 07-19-2018, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by awz50

Steroids or non steroid pudge?

"Only God knows"

rman112 · 07-19-2018, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by blackandgold

I watched Hand his whole career with Miami and saw him pitch a handful of AAA games live He’s extremely streaky I really thought his career would die out in San Diego. Good luck to him

Dude is a completely different pitcher as a reliever.

NeedChapmans · 07-19-2018, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Firerunner4

What PBM is Prospects?

Metsplaya. No doubt

clocsta2323 · 07-20-2018, 12:14 AM

does anyone else remember pulling Brand Hand autos (and Michael Inoa) out of 2009 bowman draft retail

jstasyk1121 · 07-20-2018, 06:32 AM

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chris sale.

hmm...ok...so mike trout then

only been there 1x..and he sucked...so does mike trout suck in the playoffs along with every other hitter that hasnt been there yet??

07-19-2018, 04:12 PM	#129
asujbl Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 63,028 ohiosundevils	Absolutely love this trade for Cleveland Mejia is a fantastic prospect. Nothing bad to say. But neither of the RP’s are rentals (big) and it’s time to make a run over the next 2-3 years Mejia also refuses to play OF (for Cleveland at least) and he isn’t replacing Gomes and Perez It was time to move him __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies”

07-19-2018, 05:43 PM	#135
prospects Banned Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 4,059	Nope, my statement is based on the fact that Brad Hand wont pitch well under pressure. Great, he pitched to a 3 era in san diego in front of one thousand fans, congrats. Come october, I am bumping this thread. Until then, we wait.

07-19-2018, 05:49 PM	#138
prospects Banned Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 4,059	I never thought i would see all of this excitement over brad hand.

07-19-2018, 05:51 PM	#139
prospects Banned Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 4,059	brad "hand" me a hanger that will be popped in the playoffs!

07-19-2018, 07:14 PM	#141
Firerunner4 Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 12,981 RunningDad310 dppolice4	What PBM is Prospects?

07-19-2018, 07:57 PM	#142
blackandgold Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lockport La Posts: 9,132 guidry2732	I watched Hand his whole career with Miami and saw him pitch a handful of AAA games live He’s extremely streaky I really thought his career would die out in San Diego. Good luck to him

07-20-2018, 12:14 AM	#149
clocsta2323 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: D.C. Posts: 6,847	does anyone else remember pulling Brand Hand autos (and Michael Inoa) out of 2009 bowman draft retail