Let the Franmil Reyes eBay Returns BEGIN! - Page 3

jjeanius · 05-20-2018, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Unreal. What's the eBay username?

Still waiting to hear what this jackwagon’s eBay ID is. Can’t block him quickly enough

bobthewondercat · 05-20-2018, 07:22 PM

I totally agree that this is super dishonest and the policy needs to be changed.

However I would say that sending a pic of the buyer's kid is too creepy / mean of a response. Yes, they are lying and trying to take advantage of you and deserve to be smote, but leave the kids off the table.

dasiegel · 05-20-2018, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bobthewondercat

I totally agree that this is super dishonest and the policy needs to be changed.

However I would say that sending a pic of the buyer's kid is too creepy / mean of a response. Yes, they are lying and trying to take advantage of you and deserve to be smote, but leave the kids off the table.

hahahaha this forum makes me so jaded i didn't even think about that. yea i guess kids should be off the table lol.

Shadowsonic2004 · 05-20-2018, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

That happened to me once as well. I sold a buyer a BGS 10 LeBron James 2003 Topps Chrome Refractor RC. He said his wife would divorce him if he didn't return the card.

Nothing I could do. Return accepted.

That one honestly might be true. I always read about horror stories of returns but I've never really had a problem with them. I've been selling for years and I've had 3 return requests. 1 because the printing plate had ink on it.

NeedChapmans · 05-20-2018, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bobthewondercat

I totally agree that this is super dishonest and the policy needs to be changed.

However I would say that sending a pic of the buyer's kid is too creepy / mean of a response. Yes, they are lying and trying to take advantage of you and deserve to be smote, but leave the kids off the table.

She sent me this picture to prove her claim that her son bought the item by mistake. I didn't find it, or ask for it; she attached it to an eBay message to show "Hey, I do have a son that can bid on things".

RandysHobby · 05-20-2018, 08:53 PM

This is why I only do prospecting (minus the few I have left) on COMC. No BS there.

rman112 · 05-20-2018, 08:56 PM

edit - eh.. I'll hold back for now

pgisback · 05-20-2018, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

She sent me this picture to prove her claim that her son bought the item by mistake. I didn't find it, or ask for it; she attached it to an eBay message to show "Hey, I do have a son that can bid on things".

That makes far more sense!!

Adamchuk · 05-20-2018, 09:19 PM

Just got a return automatically approved by ebay because a guy wants to return a 2017 Gleyber Ref Auto Gem because most likely prices have come down a bit, he bought it a week ago. Ugh.

Question for guys that do sell on ebay, I do a lot, and have accepted returns to get the discount on fees, but is it even worth not accepting returns, I mean buyers can just file a not as described anyways, its lose lose for sellers

VandyCards · 05-20-2018, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamchuk

Just got a return automatically approved by ebay because a guy wants to return a 2017 Gleyber Ref Auto Gem because most likely prices have come down a bit, he bought it a week ago. Ugh.

Question for guys that do sell on ebay, I do a lot, and have accepted returns to get the discount on fees, but is it even worth not accepting returns, I mean buyers can just file a not as described anyways, its lose lose for sellers

I may be jinxing myself, but I have clear language stating no returns, ask any questions about condition ahead of time, no guarantees, etc etc in my listings. In the 4-5 times a buyer has tried to do what appeared to be an illegitimate return over the past 7 years, I've refused. When they've left a neg or opened a case, I've been able to talk to eBay's customer service people and they've always sided with me. It takes time and a little bit of convincing, but it is possible.

RYBOWSKI97 · 05-20-2018, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

She sent me this picture to prove her claim that her son bought the item by mistake. I didn't find it, or ask for it; she attached it to an eBay message to show "Hey, I do have a son that can bid on things".

id rather hear someone be honest than drag kids into it. i work part time as a private investigator and the crap i hear people "blame" on their kids in unreal. i wouldnt let that lady off the hook, no way

ThoseBackPages · 05-20-2018, 09:51 PM

this thread has a chance to be EPIC!

NC, keep posting these stories! (please?)

danimal875 · 05-20-2018, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamchuk

Just got a return automatically approved by ebay because a guy wants to return a 2017 Gleyber Ref Auto Gem because most likely prices have come down a bit, he bought it a week ago. Ugh.

Question for guys that do sell on ebay, I do a lot, and have accepted returns to get the discount on fees, but is it even worth not accepting returns, I mean buyers can just file a not as described anyways, its lose lose for sellers

I think lots of eBay sellers aren’t seeing the forest through the trees with this issue. EBay has probably spent millions of dollars analyzing the cost benefit ratio of weeding out the flaky buyers and at the end of the day, they have determined that they are a net benefit to overall sales. Think about, these ding dongs represent maybe 5% of all buyers, but wether they are flippers, drunks, crazy people, they DRIVE UP PRICES, because they bid without a 100% idea in their head that they have to pay, in a way it’s like having free range shills just running around. Sure, sometimes the whammy ends up in your square, but how many times did they get a legit buyer to spend 10% more, They beat their bid and you made out great?

JWBlue · 05-20-2018, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by danimal875

I think lots of eBay sellers aren’t seeing the forest through the trees with this issue. EBay has probably spent millions of dollars analyzing the cost benefit ratio of weeding out the flaky buyers and at the end of the day, they have determined that they are a net benefit to overall sales. Think about, these ding dongs represent maybe 5% of all buyers, but wether they are flippers, drunks, crazy people, they DRIVE UP PRICES, because they bid without a 100% idea in their head that they have to pay, in a way it’s like having free range shills just running around. Sure, sometimes the whammy ends up in your square, but how many times did they get a legit buyer to spend 10% more, They beat their bid and you made out great?

Interesting thought and great overall post.

EvD0789 · 05-20-2018, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SaveMeTheGum

This one time, this kid bought a bunch of my cards for double their value and then his mom emailed me wanting to return them. Luckily a white knight swooped in and tricked the mom into selling them all to his friend at a huge discount. Maybe he can help you out with these ones...

Are you speaking of the 15 year old that bought $150,000 in cards hahahaha

Flkrsn5 · 05-20-2018, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by danimal875

I think lots of eBay sellers aren’t seeing the forest through the trees with this issue. EBay has probably spent millions of dollars analyzing the cost benefit ratio of weeding out the flaky buyers and at the end of the day, they have determined that they are a net benefit to overall sales. Think about, these ding dongs represent maybe 5% of all buyers, but wether they are flippers, drunks, crazy people, they DRIVE UP PRICES, because they bid without a 100% idea in their head that they have to pay, in a way it’s like having free range shills just running around. Sure, sometimes the whammy ends up in your square, but how many times did they get a legit buyer to spend 10% more, They beat their bid and you made out great?

Maybe it’s time for people to stop selling on eBay. Asides from the boards, maybe a new platform needs to be created just for cards/memorabilia with strict rules that do not allow for this kind of stuff to happen. Just a thought, and if enough people are on board, I’ll hit a friend of mine up to see if he can make it happen.

bobthewondercat · 05-21-2018, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

She sent me this picture to prove her claim that her son bought the item by mistake. I didn't find it, or ask for it; she attached it to an eBay message to show "Hey, I do have a son that can bid on things".

Gotcha - good on ya. And shame on her (esp if that really is her kid!)

Wolf8MeVillie · 05-21-2018, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

Wow. I get this sometimes too. On MUCH lower value items.

My favorite explanation in the last month: "My wife found out about my purchase. This is bad."

My wife found out I bought a new Harley Davidson, she said she wanted me to return it! Still riding it.... but lesson learned.... hide it better!

Wolf8MeVillie · 05-21-2018, 03:07 AM

Annnndddd I am glad I mainly sell $1-10... I mean I sell a ton, but haven't had anyone "accidentally" buy that Derek Jeter base card for $2.50. The whole Ohtani thing would make me nervous. I mean how long can he pitch and hit at this level as good as he is doing. At some point people might regret spending $1000 on a base autograph, especially as they start pumping out more and more. Pulling Ohtani is both a blessing but could end up a curse.

hornedfrog1985 · 05-21-2018, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bobthewondercat

I totally agree that this is super dishonest and the policy needs to be changed.

However I would say that sending a pic of the buyer's kid is too creepy / mean of a response. Yes, they are lying and trying to take advantage of you and deserve to be smote, but leave the kids off the table.

Yeah, its a little over the top. It could really easily have been taken the wrong way... Id take it as a passive threat

Aquagolf70 · 05-21-2018, 07:45 AM

Another story that makes me hesitant to sell anything on eBay. Is there a general profit percentage if using COMC or a consignor? Or an example across the board? Say $100 card, anyone care to share what they take home via different service?

Also got me thinking that grade prospecting should be part of the fun too, not free to return everything that doesn’t get a gem!

superdan49 · 05-21-2018, 09:16 AM

I actually root for the player to succeed even more if I've sold a big card of him. If the guy performs well post-sale, the card increases in value, and generally there won't be a return to deal with.

HadWayTooMuch · 05-21-2018, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Flkrsn5

Maybe it’s time for people to stop selling on eBay. Asides from the boards, maybe a new platform needs to be created just for cards/memorabilia with strict rules that do not allow for this kind of stuff to happen. Just a thought, and if enough people are on board, I’ll hit a friend of mine up to see if he can make it happen.

When you sell on here you have to expect to sell 10-15% below ebay on a good day. On another platform, that would be interesting!

rwperu34 · 05-21-2018, 12:16 PM

What % of returns do you expect overall and for prospects?

I'm at <0.5% overall (maybe less than 0.2%), but I haven't sold too much while the iron is hot so to speak.

paparoke · 05-21-2018, 12:25 PM

Ebay needs to refine their return process, especially on collectibles. A large portion of people buy cards for the investment aspect, this is a risk and gamble that they must assume. Allowing folks to return cards and taking away the risk from buyers will eventually drive sellers to sell elsewhere. This is liking buying stocks from a broker and selling it back at full price once it tanks. Ebay is one of the worst run business I've ever seen, it's only a matter of time before a better platform is out there and they'll go away.

05-20-2018, 07:22 PM	#52
bobthewondercat Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Reno / Tahoe Posts: 2,398 adam-benjamin bobthewondercat	I totally agree that this is super dishonest and the policy needs to be changed. However I would say that sending a pic of the buyer's kid is too creepy / mean of a response. Yes, they are lying and trying to take advantage of you and deserve to be smote, but leave the kids off the table. __________________ No Big Whoop

05-20-2018, 08:56 PM	#57
rman112 Banned Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Freedom is Free Again Posts: 40,946	edit - eh.. I'll hold back for now Last edited by rman112; 05-20-2018 at 09:03 PM.

05-20-2018, 09:19 PM	#59
Adamchuk Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 3,617 Adamchuk Adamchuk	Just got a return automatically approved by ebay because a guy wants to return a 2017 Gleyber Ref Auto Gem because most likely prices have come down a bit, he bought it a week ago. Ugh. Question for guys that do sell on ebay, I do a lot, and have accepted returns to get the discount on fees, but is it even worth not accepting returns, I mean buyers can just file a not as described anyways, its lose lose for sellers __________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/138250157@N05/albums http://s1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb379/Adamchuk/

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ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 89,808 ThoseBackPages	this thread has a chance to be EPIC! NC, keep posting these stories! (please?) __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

05-20-2018, 08:53 PM	#56
RandysHobby Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Arizona Posts: 9,362 NickFolesEaglesQB	This is why I only do prospecting (minus the few I have left) on COMC. No BS there.

05-21-2018, 03:07 AM	#69
Wolf8MeVillie Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 1,399	Annnndddd I am glad I mainly sell $1-10... I mean I sell a ton, but haven't had anyone "accidentally" buy that Derek Jeter base card for $2.50. The whole Ohtani thing would make me nervous. I mean how long can he pitch and hit at this level as good as he is doing. At some point people might regret spending $1000 on a base autograph, especially as they start pumping out more and more. Pulling Ohtani is both a blessing but could end up a curse.

05-21-2018, 07:45 AM	#71
Aquagolf70 Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,642	Another story that makes me hesitant to sell anything on eBay. Is there a general profit percentage if using COMC or a consignor? Or an example across the board? Say $100 card, anyone care to share what they take home via different service? Also got me thinking that grade prospecting should be part of the fun too, not free to return everything that doesn’t get a gem!

05-21-2018, 09:16 AM	#72
superdan49 BODA Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 4,272	I actually root for the player to succeed even more if I've sold a big card of him. If the guy performs well post-sale, the card increases in value, and generally there won't be a return to deal with.

05-21-2018, 12:16 PM	#74
rwperu34 Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 8,314	What % of returns do you expect overall and for prospects? I'm at <0.5% overall (maybe less than 0.2%), but I haven't sold too much while the iron is hot so to speak.

05-21-2018, 12:25 PM	#75
paparoke Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Nevada Posts: 4,340 papasharoke	Ebay needs to refine their return process, especially on collectibles. A large portion of people buy cards for the investment aspect, this is a risk and gamble that they must assume. Allowing folks to return cards and taking away the risk from buyers will eventually drive sellers to sell elsewhere. This is liking buying stocks from a broker and selling it back at full price once it tanks. Ebay is one of the worst run business I've ever seen, it's only a matter of time before a better platform is out there and they'll go away.