Topps Living Set

[HadWayTooMuch]

I don't know if commons at 6000-8000 print run can be sustained price-wise.

[cowboyfaninlr]

Don't thinks we will see $100 cards again anytime soon.

[Americards]

Will it slow down pre-sellers if they cannot sell the extras for more than $10.00?

[MikePiazzaPC]

Presellers are selling at a price you can't get individual cards for through topps. Doesn't effect them at all

[cowboyfaninlr]

Still a fun set to put together if not worried about resale value,.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by HadWayTooMuch

I don't know if commons at 6000-8000 print run can be sustained price-wise.

id hope not! LOL

[ThoseBackPages]

less Pujols' then i thought. he will have a Cardinals one eventually though

[poppincurbs]

Love the drop. More Matt Olson/Jose Ramirez than Pujols LOL. Even 9k in the grand scheme of things is not much at all on these Jeters/Harpers/Pujols. Hold until their HOF speech. =)

[jdandns]

It's ToppsLivingCoin, so sure it's going to have peaks and valleys.
Just one word to remember, bros, but I'll repeat it three times:
Hodl Hodl Hodl

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by jdandns

It's ToppsLivingCoin, so sure it's going to have peaks and valleys.
Just one word to remember, bros, but I'll repeat it three times:
Hodl Hodl Hodl

HODL FOREVA!!!!!!!!

[toadstone]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who has been thinking HODL through all this.

[Americards]

[SaveMeTheGum]

Those PR's are slightly higher than I was expecting -- good showing for a non-hype type group. This week's should be about the same I would guess. Except for the 10,000 Berrios's that Jake will buy.

[HadWayTooMuch]

Originally Posted by SaveMeTheGum

Those PR's are slightly higher than I was expecting -- good showing for a non-hype type group. This week's should be about the same I would guess. Except for the 10,000 Berrios's that Jake will buy.

My concern with higher print runs isn't the print run. It's who is buying them and why.

Is Little Timmy buying 100 hoping to flip for a profit and then dump them for $5 each when he realizes they can't be flipped when the print run is 8000?

Or are there thousands new collectors/investors now involved buying 1-10 each?

It's a big difference, believe me!

[Americards]

Originally Posted by MikePiazzaPC

Presellers are selling at a price you can't get individual cards for through topps. Doesn't effect them at all

BUT Will it slow down pre-sellers if they cannot sell the extras for more than $10.00?

and it is AFFECT!!!!

[kyle1707]

Originally Posted by HadWayTooMuch

My concern with higher print runs isn't the print run. It's who is buying them and why.

Is Little Timmy buying 100 hoping to flip for a profit and then dump them for $5 each when he realizes they can't be flipped when the print run is 8000?

Or are there thousands new collectors/investors now involved buying 1-10 each?

It's a big difference, believe me!

I said it before .. I think there are 20 guys buying 25-30% of the run

We live in a new Card world bgs 9.5 bump my subs sick patch bro let’s razz it

I bet there are not 1000 people actually collecting this set

Hoping and would not be shocked to see common runs back to 3500 in a month

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by kyle1707

I said it before .. I think there are 20 guys buying 25-30% of the run

We live in a new Card world bgs 9.5 bump my subs sick patch bro let’s razz it

I bet there are not 1000 people actually collecting this set

Hoping and would not be shocked to see common runs back to 3500 in a month

i absolutely agree with the bolded

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by Americards

BUT Will it slow down pre-sellers if they cannot sell the extras for more than $10.00?

and it is AFFECT!!!!

That's a tricky one for a lot of people.
Just remember: The effect is the result of the action felt by those affected.

[Hallco]

Originally Posted by vanpatten

This is the first week where a helmet doesn't appear.

She does give great helmet!

[monkeymcgee]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i absolutely agree with the bolded

Then who drove the initial run of SP cards up if not set collectors?

Let’s face it, we can rationalize all we want, but those PRs in the general card community are not screaming “rare”.

I’ll grant you speculators drove prices to crazy highs like they do, but I think there are more than 1,000 set collectors.

[tazz1213]

Originally Posted by kyle1707

I said it before .. I think there are 20 guys buying 25-30% of the run

We live in a new Card world bgs 9.5 bump my subs sick patch bro let’s razz it

I bet there are not 1000 people actually collecting this set

Hoping and would not be shocked to see common runs back to 3500 in a month

I think we will be back REAL SOON.

[SaveMeTheGum]

Originally Posted by HadWayTooMuch

My concern with higher print runs isn't the print run. It's who is buying them and why.

Is Little Timmy buying 100 hoping to flip for a profit and then dump them for $5 each when he realizes they can't be flipped when the print run is 8000?

Or are there thousands new collectors/investors now involved buying 1-10 each?

It's a big difference, believe me!

Originally Posted by kyle1707

I said it before .. I think there are 20 guys buying 25-30% of the run

We live in a new Card world bgs 9.5 bump my subs sick patch bro let’s razz it

I bet there are not 1000 people actually collecting this set

Hoping and would not be shocked to see common runs back to 3500 in a month

I agree with all of this -- We've seen that there is definitely money to be made flipping quick, at least with the first few sets, but I think the real money will be made on the long hold. It will take a while for the flippers to sell what they need to (or dump eventually) and for a majority of these cards to get into collectors hands. But over time (maybe years) it will whittle down to just the collectors and will grow slowly as more collectors jump aboard (or current collectors decide they need a 2nd set, or 3rd set, or a PSA set, etc).

I wouldn't be surprised to see PR's back in the 3k range at some point. And even if they do, these early sets will hold value because those 3k buyers will be different than the originals. The Acuna set will probably end up being the least valuable and easiest to get by far.

Originally Posted by monkeymcgee

Then who drove the initial run of SP cards up if not set collectors?

Let’s face it, we can rationalize all we want, but those PRs in the general card community are not screaming “rare”.

I’ll grant you speculators drove prices to crazy highs like they do, but I think there are more than 1,000 set collectors.

You could be right -- but how many of those set collectors only want 1 set? I'm working on a second right now, but can't decide if I want a PSA set, or another raw set since I'm sending a bunch of cards off. We'll see.

[psd2k10]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

less Pujols' then i thought. he will have a Cardinals one eventually though

why do you say that? is he getting traded to the Cardinals? Just asking because I was under the impression that the only way to have another card is if the player changes teams.

[SaveMeTheGum]

Originally Posted by psd2k10

why do you say that? is he getting traded to the Cardinals? Just asking because I was under the impression that the only way to have another card is if the player changes teams.

I don't think it's completely clear how Topps will handle situations like this. If they feel that a Cardinals Pujols will sell a bunch of copies (which it probably will) then they will make one.

Topps has a lot of flexibility in how they do this going forward. They are not going to release a set (in my opinion) with 3 commons, and the stars will dry up at some point, so they will probably have to get creative at some point to fill some weeks. We've already seen one retired player, and there has been a Jackie Robinson sighting already.

Imagine if 3 HOFers are elected -- that would be a pretty cool week. They'll mix in other all time greats in as well. We've seen milestones, callups and retirements already issued immediately. Maybe a James Paxton next week? I just hope Topps stays on top of this set as far as making it timely and relevant.

[palmetto7]

With so many players available to print I doubt Topps would print another Pujols
...or if smart wait till Hof induction for Cardinals card

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