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Old 12-16-2017, 10:15 PM   #76
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If he shows up big at workouts and combine

He could be first qb.

He’s team is awful

Big very athletic and huge arm

Risky ? Yep

Every team wants athletic now.. 6’5 230

Sound familiar

Here is the order McShay has the quarterbacks going in his mock draft.

1: Sam Darnold - Cleveland Browns

2: Josh Rosen - New York Giants

5: Josh Allen - Denver Broncos

19: Baker Mayfield - Los Angeles Chargers
I don’t see Allen going to Denver
Reminds me of Paxton Lynch, and John Elway probably won’t want to draft another one
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Old 12-17-2017, 12:21 PM   #77
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Well, here’s my first mock draft of the year:

2018 NFL Mock Draft #1

1. Cleveland - QB Sam Darnold, USC
2. NY Giants - QB Josh Rosen, UCLA
3. Indianapolis - CB/S Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama
4. San Francisco - RB Saquon Barkley, Penn State
5. Denver - OT Connor Williams, Texas
6. Cleveland - S Derwin James, Florida State
7. Tampa Bay - DE Bradley Chubb, North Carolina State
8. Chicago - WR Calvin Ridley, Alabama
9. NY Jets - QB Josh Allen, Wyoming
10. Cincinnati - OG Quenton Nelson, Notre Dame
11. Arizona - OT Mike McGlinchey, Notre Dame
12. Oakland - LB Roquan Smith, Georgia
13. Washington - WR Christian Kirk, Texas A&M
14. Miami - DE/OLB Arden Key, LSU
15. Buffalo - WR Courtland Sutton, SMU
16. Dallas - DT Christian Wilkins, Clemson
17. Green Bay - DE/OLB Clelin Ferrell, Clemson
18. Detroit - OLB Harold Landry, Boston College
19. LA Chargers - QB Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma
20. Tennessee - CB Denzel Ward, Ohio State
21. Buffalo - DT Da’Ron Payne, Alabama
22. Baltimore - WR James Washington, Oklahoma State
23. Atlanta - DT Maurice Hurst, Michigan
24. Seattle - RB Derrius Guice, LSU
25. Carolina - DE/OLB Sam Hubbard, Ohio State
26. LA Rams - OG/C Billy Price, Ohio State
27. Jacksonville - OT Orlando Brown, Oklahoma
28. New Orleans - S Ronnie Harrison, Alabama
29. Minnesota - QB Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma State
30. New England - OLB Austin Bryant, Clemson
31. Pittsburgh - LB Rashaan Evans, Alabama
32. Philadelphia - CB Josh Jackson, Iowa
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Old 12-17-2017, 12:49 PM   #78
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Looks good Ward. I love Barkley, but I don't see Kyle wanting a rb. I bet he is content with Breida and Williams at the position for the time being. My guess is they move back to get a lineman or Ridley. If they stay put it will be Minkah, Derwin, or Bradley.
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Looks good Ward. I love Barkley, but I don't see Kyle wanting a rb. I bet he is content with Breida and Williams at the position for the time being. My guess is they move back to get a lineman or Ridley. If they stay put it will be Minkah, Derwin, or Bradley.

Yeah I’ve thought the same thing. But part of me just thinks that Lynch and Shanahan won’t pass up the opportunity to pair Barkley with Garoppolo and try to create a special offense.

Also wouldn’t shock me if they trade down to acquire more picks and like you said, take someone like Ridley and worry about RB in the later rounds.
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Well, here’s my first mock draft of the year:

2018 NFL Mock Draft #1

1. Cleveland - QB Sam Darnold, USC
2. NY Giants - QB Josh Rosen, UCLA
3. Indianapolis - CB/S Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama
4. San Francisco - RB Saquon Barkley, Penn State
5. Denver - OT Connor Williams, Texas
6. Cleveland - S Derwin James, Florida State
7. Tampa Bay - DE Bradley Chubb, North Carolina State
8. Chicago - WR Calvin Ridley, Alabama
9. NY Jets - QB Josh Allen, Wyoming
10. Cincinnati - OG Quenton Nelson, Notre Dame
11. Arizona - OT Mike McGlinchey, Notre Dame
12. Oakland - LB Roquan Smith, Georgia
13. Washington - WR Christian Kirk, Texas A&M
14. Miami - DE/OLB Arden Key, LSU
15. Buffalo - WR Courtland Sutton, SMU
16. Dallas - DT Christian Wilkins, Clemson
17. Green Bay - DE/OLB Clelin Ferrell, Clemson
18. Detroit - OLB Harold Landry, Boston College
19. LA Chargers - QB Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma
20. Tennessee - CB Denzel Ward, Ohio State
21. Buffalo - DT Da’Ron Payne, Alabama
22. Baltimore - WR James Washington, Oklahoma State
23. Atlanta - DT Maurice Hurst, Michigan
24. Seattle - RB Derrius Guice, LSU
25. Carolina - DE/OLB Sam Hubbard, Ohio State
26. LA Rams - OG/C Billy Price, Ohio State
27. Jacksonville - OT Orlando Brown, Oklahoma
28. New Orleans - S Ronnie Harrison, Alabama
29. Minnesota - QB Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma State
30. New England - OLB Austin Bryant, Clemson
31. Pittsburgh - LB Rashaan Evans, Alabama
32. Philadelphia - CB Josh Jackson, Iowa
Looks good bar one thing -
* no way Arden Key goes as low as 14. Indy, San Fran or Tampa will take him in the top 10
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Looks good bar one thing -

* no way Arden Key goes as low as 14. Indy, San Fran or Tampa will take him in the top 10

Only reason i have him that low is some teams may be weary of his off the field issues but i would still be really surprised if he falls out of the top ten.
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Old 12-17-2017, 08:25 PM   #82
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The Rams need to add CB or OL. If not maybe Harold Landry. Favorite defensive player in the draft.
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Old 12-17-2017, 08:37 PM   #83
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IMO Baker Mayfield is the top QB. I don’t even think it’s close.
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So with the loss today are the Browns officially on the clock?
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Old 12-18-2017, 12:04 AM   #85
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IMO Baker Mayfield is the top QB. I don’t even think it’s close.
Guy walks on twice after nobody wanted him, ends up winning every major award and tops it off with a heisman trophy

let him fall to the bottom part of the first round or later.... see if he won't have that same chip on his shoudler

i think mayfield will be an all pro at the nfl level at some point during his career
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Well, here’s my first mock draft of the year:

2018 NFL Mock Draft #1

1. Cleveland - QB Sam Darnold, USC
2. NY Giants - QB Josh Rosen, UCLA
3. Indianapolis - CB/S Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama
4. San Francisco - RB Saquon Barkley, Penn State
5. Denver - OT Connor Williams, Texas
6. Cleveland - S Derwin James, Florida State
7. Tampa Bay - DE Bradley Chubb, North Carolina State
8. Chicago - WR Calvin Ridley, Alabama
9. NY Jets - QB Josh Allen, Wyoming
10. Cincinnati - OG Quenton Nelson, Notre Dame
11. Arizona - OT Mike McGlinchey, Notre Dame
12. Oakland - LB Roquan Smith, Georgia
13. Washington - WR Christian Kirk, Texas A&M
14. Miami - DE/OLB Arden Key, LSU
15. Buffalo - WR Courtland Sutton, SMU
16. Dallas - DT Christian Wilkins, Clemson
17. Green Bay - DE/OLB Clelin Ferrell, Clemson
18. Detroit - OLB Harold Landry, Boston College
19. LA Chargers - QB Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma
20. Tennessee - CB Denzel Ward, Ohio State
21. Buffalo - DT Da’Ron Payne, Alabama
22. Baltimore - WR James Washington, Oklahoma State
23. Atlanta - DT Maurice Hurst, Michigan
24. Seattle - RB Derrius Guice, LSU
25. Carolina - DE/OLB Sam Hubbard, Ohio State
26. LA Rams - OG/C Billy Price, Ohio State
27. Jacksonville - OT Orlando Brown, Oklahoma
28. New Orleans - S Ronnie Harrison, Alabama
29. Minnesota - QB Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma State
30. New England - OLB Austin Bryant, Clemson
31. Pittsburgh - LB Rashaan Evans, Alabama
32. Philadelphia - CB Josh Jackson, Iowa

Get Josh Allen the hell away from my Jets.

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Guy walks on twice after nobody wanted him, ends up winning every major award and tops it off with a heisman trophy

let him fall to the bottom part of the first round or later.... see if he won't have that same chip on his shoudler

i think mayfield will be an all pro at the nfl level at some point during his career
Love baker but he is high risk...think the steelers could take him end of 1st depending on how they feel about dobbs or early 2nd
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baker mayfield is johnny manziel 2.0
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Guy walks on twice after nobody wanted him, ends up winning every major award and tops it off with a heisman trophy

let him fall to the bottom part of the first round or later.... see if he won't have that same chip on his shoudler

i think mayfield will be an all pro at the nfl level at some point during his career
Best thing that could happen to Mayfield is he falls to the end of the first or second round. He loves playing with a chip on his shoulder/as an underdog. Watch he will end up with the Patriots
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IMO Baker Mayfield is the top QB. I don’t even think it’s close.
THIS. I understand that scouts are all about "Pro Style Quarterbacks," but I spend my Saturdays watching these guys play and I don't understand the thinking sometimes. I watched Trubisky, Mahomes, and Watson play A LOT last year. How is Watson not the #1 QB taken? Same this year, I've watched Darnold, Rosen, Allen, and Mayfield play a lot this year. How is Mayfield gonna be probably the 4th QB taken? I could be completely wrong this year but I was right about Watson, at least what we were able to see this year.

FWIW, I'm not an Oklahoma or Mayfield fan.
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Get Josh Allen the hell away from my Jets.

REVISE IT. NOW!
You're right, Petty has looked awesome.
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You're right, Petty has looked awesome.
Im not defending our QBs by any means.

I'm jsut not a fan of Allen at all.

I'm hoping either Cousins, Bridgewater or maybe Bortles shakes loose or they trade up for Darnold or Rosen. The only other QB i'm interested in is Mayfield, but if they could trade back in to Round 1 to get him, or get him in Round 2.
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Im not defending our QBs by any means.

I'm jsut not a fan of Allen at all.

I'm hoping either Cousins, Bridgewater or maybe Bortles shakes loose or they trade up for Darnold or Rosen. The only other QB i'm interested in is Mayfield, but if they could trade back in to Round 1 to get him, or get him in Round 2.
Wait a little bit and watch Allen at the combine. He absolutely has ZERO talent around him, has an awesome arm, and is cold weather tested. Not to mention he is a monster and an amazing athlete. I bet whomever drafts him will be happy they did.
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You're right, Petty has looked awesome.
And we haven't even seen the almighty HACK yet!!
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Maybe I've just watched Rosen in his worst games, but I think he's prone to making absolutely horrible decisions with his throws. He's going to need to solid coaching. If he can make better decisions, he's my fav QB in the draft.
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Maybe I've just watched Rosen in his worst games, but I think he's prone to making absolutely horrible decisions with his throws. He's going to need to solid coaching. If he can make better decisions, he's my fav QB in the draft.
I agree with everything but the last sentence.
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baker mayfield is johnny manziel 2.0
Physically perhaps but his mental makeup seems stronger than Money Manziel.
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Im not defending our QBs by any means.

I'm jsut not a fan of Allen at all.

I'm hoping either Cousins, Bridgewater or maybe Bortles shakes loose or they trade up for Darnold or Rosen. The only other QB i'm interested in is Mayfield, but if they could trade back in to Round 1 to get him, or get him in Round 2.
Saw one mock today that had the Jets taking Lamar Jackson at 10
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baker mayfield is johnny manziel 2.0
His size is a problem for sure.....

But he can really throw the ball though.. Manziel arm was awful imo

Still a huge risk.. should be 2-3 round
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Saw one mock today that had the Jets taking Lamar Jackson at 10

I honestly can’t even see Lamar Jackson being an NFL QB, much less a QB taken in the first round. If a team does that, they’re making a huge mistake. The first time he gets hit by a 6’3”, 350 lb DT, he’s gonna get the crap knocked out of him.
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