Aaron Judge - Page 432

mgugs46 · 08-20-2017, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NorCalSCM

What if he breaks McGwire's record? Do his prices spike back up to the same levels? Your thoughts?

You think he's hitting 13 more homers? Zero chance imo.

justdagoodstuff · 08-20-2017, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferg1945

And he is still a very good player.

But he will never reach the prices he was getting.

Say next year he hits 40 HRs again... cuts down his strike out total... you think his GEM Chrome Autos will reach $1,000 again? Not a chance. They will go up... but where will they bottom out at? The MLB offseason is a LONG one.

I don't know about that only because of who he plays for. If he was playing for Tampa Bay or another smaller market I would agree with you.

ninjacookies · 08-20-2017, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kyle1707

OBP and war are probably top 5 also

All im saying is let the last 40 games play out.....

He has day off...

You seem to have a lot of patience with Judge...and very little with Harper lol.

scottagibson · 08-20-2017, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kyle1707

2017 League Ranks:
• 1st in AL in HR (37)
• 7th in AL in RBI (80)
• 1st in AL in R (91)
• 1st in AL in BB (90)
• 1st in AL in SLG (.593)
• 1st in AL in OPS (1.006)

Rock bottom here we come!!

kyle1707 · 08-20-2017, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjacookies

You seem to have a lot of patience with Judge...and very little with Harper lol.

Well i have 10k in cards of Harper...

And zero in judge...

Honest is best policy...

Plus Judge is a RC... Big deal imo

cnewby · 08-20-2017, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kyle1707

2017 League Ranks:
• 1st in AL in HR (37)
• 7th in AL in RBI (80)
• 1st in AL in R (91)
• 1st in AL in BB (90)
• 1st in AL in SLG (.593)
• 1st in AL in OPS (1.006)

Some real hot takes in here tonight... thanks for offering perspective.

NorCalSCM · 08-20-2017, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mgugs46

You think he's hitting 13 more homers? Zero chance imo.

I know there are 40? games left and this is baseball. Anything is possible.

Ferg1945 · 08-20-2017, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NorCalSCM

What if he breaks McGwire's record? Do his prices spike back up to the same levels? Your thoughts?

No.

14 HRs mixed in with 70 Ks... nope

if he drastically cuts down on his Ks.... say he hits the 14 HRs to reach 50... and only Ks 30-35 times in the last 40 games... they might spike...

Right now $550-600... but a week ago $650-700. By the time he reaches 50 HRs... his Chromes might be $450-500 on avg. They will spike from that... maybe to $700-800.... but not back to $1,000+

Ferg1945 · 08-20-2017, 09:44 PM

August 1st.

min sub 9.5/10 base autos were selling for $850

August 20th.

quad 9.5 9.5/10 base auto sold for $525

It's HARD to gain that back after such a quick fall.

texmcpherson · 08-20-2017, 09:47 PM

At this point buyers are going to be scared of his next big slump even if he does catch fire next season. Going to be very hesitant which in turn will create lower prices. Going to be slim to none that want to go big on him. Major red flags now.

You guys buy all you want, I'm aiming to break even at this point. Glad I didn't put a second mortgage on my house for his cards like some

ninjacookies · 08-20-2017, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferg1945

August 1st.

min sub 9.5/10 base autos were selling for $850

August 20th.

quad 9.5 9.5/10 base auto sold for $525

It's HARD to gain that back after such a quick fall.

It's always tough to gain back peak hysteria prices during a rookie year...from any sport.

It usually only happens if the player regains mvp posture the next year, or if they've established themselves as a perennial top 5-10 talent in the league (Harper, Trout, Bryant/Machado (this pre-season), Correa during his hot streak)

It's definitely possible though, but perspective investors will be quite rattled by the sequence of events that lead to his decline. It was anything short of gradual, as opposed to a linear progression.

Ferg1945 · 08-20-2017, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjacookies

It's always tough to gain back peak hysteria prices during a rookie year...from any sport.

It usually only happens if the player regains mvp posture the next year, or if they've established themselves as a perennial top 5-10 talent in the league (Harper, Trout, Bryant/Machado (this pre-season), Correa during his hot streak)

It's definitely possible though, but perspective investors will be quite rattled by the sequence of events that lead to his decline. It was anything short of gradual, as opposed to a linear progression.

And that's not even his peak.... that was like 2-3 weeks before those prices. $950-1,000+ was his peak avg.

kpete42 · 08-20-2017, 09:55 PM

Come on you guys...rookies hit 40 plus home runs ALL the time! And they NEVER slump! This Judge guy is a bust, unload your cards now! He doesn't even play for a team with a huge following!

Ferg1945 · 08-20-2017, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kpete42

Come on you guys...rookies hit 40 plus home runs ALL the time! And they NEVER slump! This Judge guy is a bust, unload your cards now! He doesn't even play for a team with a huge following!

a SLUMP is a 10-15 game stretch..... not 40 lol.

ninjacookies · 08-20-2017, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kpete42

Come on you guys...rookies hit 40 plus home runs ALL the time! And they NEVER slump! This Judge guy is a bust, unload your cards now! He doesn't even play for a team with a huge following!

There's no doubting his immense talent and 'potential.'

But the line of reasoning with investors is they've seen an almost historical stretch with unsustainable numbers...followed by numbers that would not allow the common positional player to hold a spot on an MLB roster.

So obviously his talent lies somewhere between the two faces he's shown thus far. The big question is....where?

I'm speaking solely from a potential buyer's perspective.

I personally projected him before the massive hysteria as a potential Stanton type. I did not see him carrying a .3xx+ average like Trout. But he has massive power, which also carries massive k rates. Is that a terrible thing if you're a Yankee fan? Absolutely not. As a potential buyer at current prices? Probably so.

clocsta2323 · 08-20-2017, 10:12 PM

This thread has opened my eyes to how ruthless people in this community are. This specific Blowout community. Every group.. .those who were flaunting their insane profits over others during Judge's hot streak, those who are boastful they got out at the right time and feel "sorry" for those who didn't, those who didn't have a stake in it but now seem to be enjoying that those who did are losing considerable money -- a bunch of grown men saying "I told you so" by posting price comps as if its not there for everybody to see. I'm sure I am missing a few classes.

I've never witnessed such blatant schadenfreude in my life lol and the saddest thing is probably half of the claims in this thread regarding what everyone has achieved financially in the wake of Judge's dominance and futility are probably lies

kpete42 · 08-20-2017, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferg1945

a SLUMP is a 10-15 game stretch..... not 40 lol.

Rookie man...he's a rookie...lol

kpete42 · 08-20-2017, 10:26 PM

So much stupidity in this thread, but enjoyable.

ThoseBackPages · 08-20-2017, 10:28 PM

GOAT THREAD!!!

kpete42 · 08-20-2017, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

GOAT THREAD!!!

I must admit, it's been highly entertaining to read!

Fair amount of anti Yankee sentiment hoping for him to fail. Fair amount of overly defensive people who have way too much $ invested.

Let this be a lesson kids, only spend big $ on things YOU like to collect and want for your PC. No ones buying a second home with baseball card profits.

ThoseBackPages · 08-20-2017, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kpete42

Let this be a lesson kids, only spend big $ on things YOU like to collect and want for your PC.

perfect!

NorCalSCM · 08-20-2017, 10:44 PM

Yankees Fall to Red Sox as Aaron Judge’s Struggles Continue

justdagoodstuff · 08-20-2017, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferg1945

No.

14 HRs mixed in with 70 Ks... nope

if he drastically cuts down on his Ks.... say he hits the 14 HRs to reach 50... and only Ks 30-35 times in the last 40 games... they might spike...

Right now $550-600... but a week ago $650-700. By the time he reaches 50 HRs... his Chromes might be $450-500 on avg. They will spike from that... maybe to $700-800.... but not back to $1,000+

My mistake. I meant to comment on another post of yours.

NorCalSCM · 08-20-2017, 10:48 PM

A poll. Will Judge be the next Kevin Mass or Reggie Jackson.

ThoseBackPages · 08-20-2017, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NorCalSCM

A poll. Will Judge be the next Kevin Mass or Reggie Jackson.

YES!!

08-20-2017, 09:47 PM	#10785
texmcpherson Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Iowa Posts: 15,950 texmcpherson	At this point buyers are going to be scared of his next big slump even if he does catch fire next season. Going to be very hesitant which in turn will create lower prices. Going to be slim to none that want to go big on him. Major red flags now. You guys buy all you want, I'm aiming to break even at this point. Glad I didn't put a second mortgage on my house for his cards like some __________________ *You can’t triple stamp a double stamp.*

08-20-2017, 10:26 PM	#10793
kpete42 Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 2,798	So much stupidity in this thread, but enjoyable. Last edited by kpete42; 08-20-2017 at 10:37 PM.

08-20-2017, 10:28 PM	#10794
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,284 ThoseBackPages	GOAT THREAD!!! __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

08-20-2017, 10:44 PM	#10797
NorCalSCM Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Northern California Posts: 4,773 topps.now	Yankees Fall to Red Sox as Aaron Judge’s Struggles Continue __________________ They will buy them and store them in their attics

08-20-2017, 10:48 PM	#10799
NorCalSCM Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Northern California Posts: 4,773 topps.now	A poll. Will Judge be the next Kevin Mass or Reggie Jackson. __________________ They will buy them and store them in their attics

08-20-2017, 09:44 PM	#10784
Ferg1945 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Midwest Posts: 14,720	August 1st. min sub 9.5/10 base autos were selling for $850 August 20th. quad 9.5 9.5/10 base auto sold for $525 It's HARD to gain that back after such a quick fall.

08-20-2017, 09:55 PM	#10788
kpete42 Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 2,798	Come on you guys...rookies hit 40 plus home runs ALL the time! And they NEVER slump! This Judge guy is a bust, unload your cards now! He doesn't even play for a team with a huge following!

08-20-2017, 10:12 PM	#10791
clocsta2323 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: D.C. Posts: 6,869	This thread has opened my eyes to how ruthless people in this community are. This specific Blowout community. Every group.. .those who were flaunting their insane profits over others during Judge's hot streak, those who are boastful they got out at the right time and feel "sorry" for those who didn't, those who didn't have a stake in it but now seem to be enjoying that those who did are losing considerable money -- a bunch of grown men saying "I told you so" by posting price comps as if its not there for everybody to see. I'm sure I am missing a few classes. I've never witnessed such blatant schadenfreude in my life lol and the saddest thing is probably half of the claims in this thread regarding what everyone has achieved financially in the wake of Judge's dominance and futility are probably lies