What about this hobby makes you scratch your head in confusion?

zebrastar · 07-28-2017, 06:40 PM

For me, it's the fact that hype sells for higher prices than success. I just don't understand why people drop the same coin on an Ingram treasures auto patch as they would a reigning current MVP's exquisite rookie auto patch, who also has very few signed cards in general and shows no sign of signing anytime soon. I get, big LA market but damn man.... $1800 for a Westbrook exquisite is severely undervalued

SHowley2003 · 07-28-2017, 06:43 PM

For me it's the amount of time and money I spend on pictures of grown men.

AbraCalabro · 07-28-2017, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by zebrastar

For me, it's the fact that hype sells for higher prices than success. I just don't understand why people drop the same coin on an Ingram treasures auto patch as they would a reigning current MVP's exquisite rookie auto patch, who also has very few signed cards in general and shows no sign of signing anytime soon. I get, big LA market but damn man.... $1800 for a Westbrook exquisite is severely undervalued

That any card can be considered undervalued at one thousand eight hundred dollars. ...and no I'm not having a go at you, I'm being completely serious.

There's a lot more, but I don't think the text limit would allow me to type everything out.

JMarchand1981 · 07-28-2017, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by zebrastar

For me, it's the fact that hype sells for higher prices than success. I just don't understand why people drop the same coin on an Ingram treasures auto patch as they would a reigning current MVP's exquisite rookie auto patch, who also has very few signed cards in general and shows no sign of signing anytime soon. I get, big LA market but damn man.... $1800 for a Westbrook exquisite is severely undervalued

Stock market works the same way. It values future earnings more than past and present earnings.

zebrastar · 07-28-2017, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SHowley2003

For me it's the amount of time and money I spend on pictures of grown men.

Hey man, don't take it seriously. It's just cardboard.

zebrastar · 07-28-2017, 06:46 PM

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Stock market works the same way. It values future earnings more than past and present earnings.

True, I guess I'm just more of a GE guy than a TSLA guy

TheCelticsfan29 · 07-28-2017, 06:55 PM

That jordan rookies and lebron chrome rookies sell for so much even though they were mass produced to the moon and back. When I check pop reports it just blows my mind

JMarchand1981 · 07-28-2017, 06:56 PM

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True, I guess I'm just more of a GE guy than a TSLA guy

Hey. It's down big but I love GE. Love it. Love it. Love it. Love it.

Great example of a future earnings company too. TSLA literally loses money q-over-q, y-over-y let even if it made $1 per share(it doesn't, it has a negative EPS) it would trade at 300x. A greater multiple than Amazon, google and Microsoft COMBINED. Kudos, sir.

advan24r · 07-28-2017, 07:00 PM

Mine is the fact why gamble on packs when you can gamble at the casino? I see wax busting the same thing as gambling. But atleast gambling gives you more control.

JMarchand1981 · 07-28-2017, 07:01 PM

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Mine is the fact why gamble on packs when you can gamble at the casino? I see wax busting the same thing as gambling. But atleast gambling gives you more control.

Gambling doesn't give you chores to do when you lose the money.

zebrastar · 07-28-2017, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCelticsfan29

That jordan rookies and lebron chrome rookies sell for so much even though they were mass produced to the moon and back. When I check pop reports it just blows my mind

Truth! If KAT is even half as great as Duncan, I'll be very happy with my 50+ prizm RC's

zebrastar · 07-28-2017, 07:05 PM

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Gambling doesn't give you chores to do when you lose the money.

Hahaha! Crap, what am I going to do with my 600 card Chase Budinger PC?

sportzking · 07-28-2017, 07:52 PM

In a way it's been like this since the 90's. I remember when Vince Carter first came out, his Sp Authentic was selling for $600 and at one point reached nearly $1k. It's all hype and the hope to make some money out of things. Besides, everyone collects their own way. Some don't mind spending the money once something new comes out, some would rather wait. Sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't.

401cards · 07-28-2017, 07:56 PM

That people scam.

Honestly, if someone wants to steal a few hundred dollars, he or she has many many options that are both more mainstream and less traceable than sports cards.

Corky · 07-28-2017, 08:40 PM

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That people scam.

Honestly, if someone wants to steal a few hundred dollars, he or she has many many options that are both more mainstream and less traceable than sports cards.

I just dealt with a seller in China who tried to scam me for $22.77, I guess there are some people willing to do maximum work for a minimal amount. A dollar is a dollar to some scammers.

Cavaliercards · 07-28-2017, 08:43 PM

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I just dealt with a seller in China who tried to scam me for $22.77, I guess there are some people willing to do maximum work for a minimal amount. A dollar is a dollar to some scammers.

Probably ran into PLA Cyber Division which has been on eBay and other websites committing fraud.

Rareairx23 · 07-28-2017, 08:52 PM

When people refer to a player as a "RC"

tjforce · 07-28-2017, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JMarchand1981

Stock market works the same way. It values future earnings more than past and present earnings.

What makes me scratch my head is when card collectors try to explain financial markets.

regularp · 07-28-2017, 08:57 PM

Ben Simmons prices and the people buying his cards at those prices. That kid's gonna have to win multiple MVPs and championships for anyone to make their money back on his cards.

JMarchand1981 · 07-28-2017, 09:13 PM

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What makes me scratch my head is when card collectors try to explain financial markets.

Pretty sure my knowledge base,background and understanding of the topic at hand gives me the right to explain financial markets.

tjforce · 07-28-2017, 09:19 PM

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Pretty sure my knowledge base,background and understanding of the topic at hand gives me the right to explain financial markets.

So enlighten me on how an equity is valued?

No google, just your explanation.

JMarchand1981 · 07-28-2017, 09:28 PM

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So enlighten me on how an equity is valued?

No google, just your explanation.

I'm not going to derail the thread. My initial post was in line with this thread.

Your post? Just looking for free advice.

zebrastar · 07-28-2017, 09:31 PM

Trolls are hungry tonight

JMarchand1981 · 07-28-2017, 09:33 PM

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Trolls are hungry tonight

Indeed they are.

zebrastar · 07-28-2017, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JMarchand1981

I'm not going to derail the thread. My initial post was in line with this thread.

Your post? Just looking for free advice.

I'm thinking maybe this is a question in a college course that he's having a hard time answering, creative strategy to say the least.

07-28-2017, 06:40 PM	#1
zebrastar Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,286 Zebrastar	What about this hobby makes you scratch your head in confusion? For me, it's the fact that hype sells for higher prices than success. I just don't understand why people drop the same coin on an Ingram treasures auto patch as they would a reigning current MVP's exquisite rookie auto patch, who also has very few signed cards in general and shows no sign of signing anytime soon. I get, big LA market but damn man.... $1800 for a Westbrook exquisite is severely undervalued Last edited by zebrastar; 07-28-2017 at 06:43 PM.

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SHowley2003 Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 6,788 SHowley2003 SHowley2003	For me it's the amount of time and money I spend on pictures of grown men. __________________ "My name is Shaquille O'Neal and Paul Pierce is the MFing Truth."

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TheCelticsfan29 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,448 dmfirish	That jordan rookies and lebron chrome rookies sell for so much even though they were mass produced to the moon and back. When I check pop reports it just blows my mind __________________ Kawhi Leonard Collector IG: @fun.guy.cards

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advan24r Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 5,146 advan24r	Mine is the fact why gamble on packs when you can gamble at the casino? I see wax busting the same thing as gambling. But atleast gambling gives you more control.

07-28-2017, 07:52 PM	#13
sportzking Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Earth :) Posts: 1,220	In a way it's been like this since the 90's. I remember when Vince Carter first came out, his Sp Authentic was selling for $600 and at one point reached nearly $1k. It's all hype and the hope to make some money out of things. Besides, everyone collects their own way. Some don't mind spending the money once something new comes out, some would rather wait. Sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't.

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401cards Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: The 401 Posts: 672 401sportscards	That people scam. Honestly, if someone wants to steal a few hundred dollars, he or she has many many options that are both more mainstream and less traceable than sports cards.

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Rareairx23 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: new hampshire Posts: 6,795 2011champs41	When people refer to a player as a "RC"

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regularp Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,176	Ben Simmons prices and the people buying his cards at those prices. That kid's gonna have to win multiple MVPs and championships for anyone to make their money back on his cards.

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zebrastar Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,286 Zebrastar	Trolls are hungry tonight