What are the chances...

imapippenfan · 07-09-2017, 10:15 PM

...the excitement and hype of Lonzo Ball will drive the sales of 2017-18 boxes and cases, but during and after the upcoming season, it will end up being other rookies who demand more attention from collectors?

Cavaliercards · 07-09-2017, 10:19 PM

Ball will drive hype, but I think in the end it will be a Frank Ntilikina, Josh Jackson, or Jayston Tatum that surprises us.

SnkzBoyd · 07-09-2017, 10:25 PM

Dennis Smith, Fultz, Fox, Monk. There are alot of guys who will drive hype outside of ball and may also be better than him.

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ninjacookies · 07-09-2017, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by imapippenfan

...the excitement and hype of Lonzo Ball will drive the sales of 2017-18 boxes and cases, but during and after the upcoming season, it will end up being other rookies who demand more attention from collectors?

Highly probable.

Let's face it...Ball probably won't be scorching the net and averaging 25+ ppg his rookie year. But he plays in LA and will probably be the most rounded rookie.

But there will almost certainly be another rookie that steals his thunder this year...maybe even multiple players.

imapippenfan · 07-09-2017, 10:31 PM

I'm talking about the media hype of Ball, not collector hype. This draft class is loaded with potential stars (and busts). But Ball is getting most of the summer league attention/buzz.

ninjacookies · 07-09-2017, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by imapippenfan

I'm talking about the media hype of Ball, not collector hype. This draft class is loaded with potential stars (and busts). But Ball is getting most of the summer league attention/buzz.

That's tougher. He'll still be the media darling even if another rookie out performs. That's unless another rookie steps up and has an all star season out of the gate.

But Ball will always have the media eyes whether he plays good or bad simply because of the polarizing figure his father has made him out to be. Which was pretty brilliant, all things considered.

dasiegel · 07-10-2017, 10:20 AM

This will go down as a great class. Between Fultz, Ball, Tatum, Jackson, Fox, Monk, Smith and so on there will be some real gems. I also really like the kid Mitchell from utah.

CANDANEDO · 07-10-2017, 05:06 PM

So, you think this class will have more hype thet the last 5-6 drafts? Maybe more?

ThoseBackPages · 07-10-2017, 05:13 PM

When will "the money" wax be released? In April?

tmar214 · 07-10-2017, 05:26 PM

I look at this class like the 2015 class where Russell went second to the lakers. 2015 had insane talent w Kat, porzingis, booker, turner, jokic but Russel cards still sold for a ton and he drew a lot of attention.

Ball has way more hype surrounding him and rates to put up better numbers this season than russell did as a rookie. Also out of the top picks in the NBA draft Ball is in by far the best spot to perform. Will be hard for Tatum or Fultz to put up huge numbers on such crowded rosters. Meanwhile Ball should get tons of minutes from the start and plays in the biggest market. So yea in the near future I think Ball is the most likely to be the #1 hype guy but that has just as much to do with the market and opportunity as it does his talent.

Lonzoball14 · 07-10-2017, 05:30 PM

I think lonzo's hype will be year long especially since he's one of the most popular rookies in a while.

ThoseBackPages · 07-10-2017, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lonzoball14

I think lonzo's hype will be year long especially since he's one of the most popular rookies in a while.

no biased there! LOL

Welcome to the boards!

Lonzoball14 · 07-10-2017, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

no biased there! LOL

Welcome to the boards!

Haha yeah maybe a tiny bit

and thank you! My first year watching bball also.

kingmogul · 07-10-2017, 11:34 PM

I think DJ wilson could be something

MyckKabongo · 07-11-2017, 07:03 AM

Hype will crazy this year. This year proved there's insatiable demand for RCs even when the class sucks. So this coming year... when the top 3 picks all went to huge market, storied franchises... the draft was loaded with guys from blue blood colleges... real chance the class meets or exceeds 15-16 on the court... it will be LIT. On top of this I think people are gonna still be card drunk from what's happening in baseball this year--I expect a lot of new entrants to the basketball prospecting game.

Kelper7 · 07-11-2017, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by imapippenfan

I'm talking about the media hype of Ball, not collector hype. This draft class is loaded with potential stars (and busts). But Ball is getting most of the summer league attention/buzz.

You specifically mentioned box/case prices being driven by Ball and attention of collectors in the OP. That is collector hype.

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jcardstore · 07-11-2017, 07:10 AM

People are dying for a good year of wax after last years mess so yea prices for wax and singles this year will be sky high

ThoseBackPages · 07-11-2017, 09:39 AM

last years prizm was hurt by the removal of RW&Bs

TheCelticsfan29 · 07-11-2017, 10:41 AM

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I think DJ wilson could be something

Yeah I love his game

CardboardCracka · 07-11-2017, 05:55 PM

I've always been almost exclusively collecting baseball and football, but i'm definitely preordering a case of prizm this year.

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07-09-2017, 10:19 PM	#2
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imapippenfan Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 385 imapippenfan	I'm talking about the media hype of Ball, not collector hype. This draft class is loaded with potential stars (and busts). But Ball is getting most of the summer league attention/buzz. __________________ I collect Ed Macauley, Julius Hodge, and Scottie Pippen.

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07-09-2017, 10:15 PM	#1
imapippenfan Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 385 imapippenfan	What are the chances... ...the excitement and hype of Lonzo Ball will drive the sales of 2017-18 boxes and cases, but during and after the upcoming season, it will end up being other rookies who demand more attention from collectors? __________________ I collect Ed Macauley, Julius Hodge, and Scottie Pippen.

07-09-2017, 10:25 PM	#3
SnkzBoyd Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Boston Posts: 691 snkzboyd	Dennis Smith, Fultz, Fox, Monk. There are alot of guys who will drive hype outside of ball and may also be better than him. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

07-10-2017, 05:06 PM	#8
CANDANEDO Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 191	So, you think this class will have more hype thet the last 5-6 drafts? Maybe more?

07-10-2017, 05:26 PM	#10
tmar214 Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,918	I look at this class like the 2015 class where Russell went second to the lakers. 2015 had insane talent w Kat, porzingis, booker, turner, jokic but Russel cards still sold for a ton and he drew a lot of attention. Ball has way more hype surrounding him and rates to put up better numbers this season than russell did as a rookie. Also out of the top picks in the NBA draft Ball is in by far the best spot to perform. Will be hard for Tatum or Fultz to put up huge numbers on such crowded rosters. Meanwhile Ball should get tons of minutes from the start and plays in the biggest market. So yea in the near future I think Ball is the most likely to be the #1 hype guy but that has just as much to do with the market and opportunity as it does his talent.

07-10-2017, 05:30 PM	#11
Lonzoball14 Banned - PBM Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 37	I think lonzo's hype will be year long especially since he's one of the most popular rookies in a while.

07-11-2017, 07:03 AM	#15
MyckKabongo Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 1,777 MyckKabongo	Hype will crazy this year. This year proved there's insatiable demand for RCs even when the class sucks. So this coming year... when the top 3 picks all went to huge market, storied franchises... the draft was loaded with guys from blue blood colleges... real chance the class meets or exceeds 15-16 on the court... it will be LIT. On top of this I think people are gonna still be card drunk from what's happening in baseball this year--I expect a lot of new entrants to the basketball prospecting game.

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