WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV

[Wolves4Life]

Originally Posted by fazzle

Brock has been around more because it's Mania season. As soon as he wins the title we won't see him again until the buildup for Summerslam.

Doubt that. He's retired from MMA. He has nothing else to do.

[TWard]

Originally Posted by gorillaz

Im gtting Wrestlemania 20 flashbacks. Both of them were leaving WWE after their match. It ended up being the definition of a toilet. I think Lesnar even flipped off the crowd too.

Ugh, I'm getting those flashbacks too.

[dbackschamp2001]

I can't wait till next year's Mania when Ric Flair faces Zombie Andre the Giant for the title.

[gorillaz]

Originally Posted by TWard

Ugh, I'm getting those flashbacks too.

Yeah. SCSA ended up giving stunners to both of them while the crowd was chanting/singing nanananana hey hey hey goodbye.

[TWard]

Originally Posted by dbackschamp2001

I can't wait till next year's Mania when Ric Flair faces Zombie Andre the Giant for the title.

Don't forget about the ghost of Randy Savage in the triple threat

[Jaypers]

So, will tomorrow night's crowd actually chant "You deserve it" while Goldberg celebrates?

[fazzle]

Originally Posted by gorillaz

What doesn't make sense is the bell ringing when Owens was distracted. Both wrestlers have to be "aware and alert" before match starts.

Never try to make sense of wrestling rules. They're never consistent and only enforce them as seen fit for the stories.

For example: Naomi just had to forfeit the SD women's title because she wouldn't be able to defend it within 30 days. Goldberg just won the title and won't defend it until WrestleMania, which does fit within the 30 day window, barely. But you know as soon as Brock wins it he'll be gone for months at a time, AGAIN. Also, Chris Jericho won the US title on January 9th, almost 2 months ago, and as far as I can recall, hasn't defended it once since then.

So I guess that means the SD Women's title has higher standards than the Universal and US titles?

[Pot Roast]

Fastlane derailed everything I liked about RAW.

So many streaks over, and Goldberg as a champion? LOOOL

Does Lesnar vs. Goldberg go past two minutes?

[fazzle]

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

Doubt that. He's retired from MMA. He has nothing else to do.

Brock not showing up has absolutely nothing to do with MMA. Brock doesn't show up because he doesn't HAVE to. Because Vince seems to think Brock is some super huge mega star, has a very specific number of dates on his contract. So unless WWE wants to throw tons of extra money at him, he won't be showing up any more than he has previously.

[Wolves4Life]

Originally Posted by Jaypers

So, will tomorrow night's crowd actually chant "You deserve it" while Goldberg celebrates?

No the morons will chant "CM PUNK" over and over.

[dbackschamp2001]

Originally Posted by Jaypers

So, will tomorrow night's crowd actually chant "You deserve it" while Goldberg celebrates?

Probably. They seem to do that for everyone now.

[dbackschamp2001]

Originally Posted by Pot Roast

Fastlane derailed everything I liked about RAW.

So many streaks over, and Goldberg as a champion? LOOOL

Does Lesnar vs. Goldberg go past two minutes?

I think one wrestler lays down, the other pins, the bell rings to start the match, ref counts to 3, and the match is over.

[cdub6238]

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

You want Reigns to stop getting pushed? Tell fans to stop reacting to him and stop buying his merch. He's the #2 seller to Cena and gets a reaction good or bad his whole match. Neither will happen and he will keep getting pushed. It always helps he's good in the ring as well. He may not be the best talker but that won't stop you from getting pushed.

only you could type this and truly believe it.

hes "passable" in the ring at best.

Spends far to much time in rest holds because hes gassed..and relies too much on his repetitive moves.

Is he better than when he started? yes..but still far from good..lol

people pile on Cena for being stale...but hell at least on PPVs he busts out 2-3 new moves hes never used before. Every match Roman has been in that was "good", was due to his opponent CARRYING him and MAKING him look good.

Hell even Braun carried him tonight..and thats should tell you plenty

[Wolves4Life]

Originally Posted by cdub6238

only you could type this and truly believe it.

hes "passable" in the ring at best.

Spends far to much time in rest holds because hes gassed..and relies too much on his repetitive moves.

Is he better than when he started? yes..but still far from good..lol

people pile on Cena for being stale...but hell at least on PPVs he busts out 2-3 new moves hes never used before. Every match Roman has been in that was "good", was due to his opponent CARRYING him and MAKING him look good.

Hell even Braun carried him tonight..and thats should tell you plenty

The typical internet SMARK thing to say.

[Newbs]

I have friends that are casual viewers and they say they same thing about Roman, they are tired of seeing him. These friends maybe watch once a month and they watch the major PPVs. These people don't watch every week and are over him, that says something

[cdub6238]

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

The typical internet SMARK thing to say.

why does that always seem to be your go to?

you are the ONLY one who is saying these things, and anybody who disagrees is some internet smark...

even though i outline and back up why i think and say the things i do...nah whatever man your just some smark...get a freakin clue

what did Roman do tonight that was so good in the ring?

right hands and a clothesline to start the match...another clothesline...more right hands in the corner...more right hands to get out of the "rest hold"..oh no another clothesline...more punches in the corner and hey guess what, ANOTHER clothesline...

oh hey he got the Samoan drop on the 3rd attempt...oh hi drive by oh hi spear...oh hi 2 Superman punches and Spear again for the win...

yeah sounds like good wrestling to me.

like i said..Cena gets flack for 5 moves of doom..but at least he adds moves to his arsenal..

hell..even Braun tried something new and went to the top rope! Reigns? nope..same ole same ole

but yeah..im just an internet smark...

[Wolves4Life]

Originally Posted by Newbs

I have friends that are casual viewers and they say they same thing about Roman, they are tired of seeing him. These friends maybe watch once a month and they watch the major PPVs. These people don't watch every week and are over him, that says something

Actually it says nothing. They are as you called them casual fans. If more fans felt that way, didn't react to him (Titus O'neil level) and he didn't move merch he wouldn't be where he's at no matter his size.

[Newbs]

Sorry, I forgot that Wolves/Roman is always right.

[Wolves4Life]

Originally Posted by cdub6238

why does that always seem to be your go to?

you are the ONLY one who is saying these things, and anybody who disagrees is some internet smark...

even though i outline and back up why i think and say the things i do...nah whatever man your just some smark...get a freakin clue

what did Roman do tonight that was so good in the ring?

right hands and a clothesline to start the match...another clothesline...more right hands in the corner...more right hands to get out of the "rest hold"..oh no another clothesline...more punches in the corner and hey guess what, ANOTHER clothesline...

oh hey he got the Samoan drop on the 3rd attempt...oh hi drive by oh hi spear...oh hi 2 Superman punches and Spear again for the win...

yeah sounds like good wrestling to me.

like i said..Cena gets flack for 5 moves of doom..but at least he adds moves to his arsenal..

hell..even Braun tried something new and went to the top rope! Reigns? nope..same ole same ole

but yeah..im just an internet smark...

It's not my go to thing. When you said someone was carried (he's not) that's a smarky thing to say. You are a fellow fan. You should know NO 1 man has ever had a great match or MOTY by himself. It takes at least 2 to tango. So I don't want to hear so and so was carried cause that's the biggest BS you could say.

Every wrestler EVER has had a repertoire. Reigns does now and again pull out new moves like everyone does but for special matches.

What did Roman do? He helped Braun who is not the greatest look even better than he does by his great selling which is a huge part of any match.

I never said you were just an internet smark. I said your response was.

[Wolves4Life]

Originally Posted by Newbs

Sorry, I forgot that Wolves/Roman is always right.

I'm sorry you can't handle someone's opinion.

[cdub6238]

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

It's not my go to thing. When you said someone was carried (he's not) that's a smarky thing to say. You are a fellow fan. You should know NO 1 man has ever had a great match or MOTY by himself. It takes at least 2 to tango. So I don't want to hear so and so was carried cause that's the biggest BS you could say.

Every wrestler EVER has had a repertoire. Reigns does now and again pull out new moves like everyone does but for special matches.

What did Roman do? He helped Braun who is not the greatest look even better than he does by his great selling which is a huge part of any match.

I never said you were just an internet smark. I said your response was.

oh you mean he helped him look good by selling...

after getting busted through the announce table, he miraculously nails a spear after getting thrown back in the ring? your right thats superb selling right there

or that steel step botch...

Luke Harper is better in the ring than Reigns and he isnt even getting a match at WM, much less a "marquee" match or constant pushes

[Nyfancam01]

watched it with a few friends..

NONE of us reacted or anything when the 3 count happened... we all just sat there.. pretty much disgusted and annoyed.

That was trash. Easily a top notch caliber "worst ppv to ever happen" type show. just terrible the whole way through.

[Wolves4Life]

Originally Posted by cdub6238

oh you mean he helped him look good by selling...

after getting busted through the announce table, he miraculously nails a spear after getting thrown back in the ring? your right thats superb selling right there

or that steel step botch...

Luke Harper is better in the ring than Reigns and he isnt even getting a match at WM, much less a "marquee" match or constant pushes

Harper is good but I wouldn't call him better. I think they are about the same honestly. Also WWE is about the money. If Harper pushed merch (honestly not sure he even has anything) he would get a top match. If he got a reaction like Roman he sure as hell would.

Steel step spot wasn't a botch it was a dodge he did the same thing on Monday. When Roman hit the spear Braun didn't exactly get in the ring at the record pace when he threw Roman in.

[Wolves4Life]

Originally Posted by Nyfancam01

watched it with a few friends..

NONE of us reacted or anything when the 3 count happened... we all just sat there.. pretty much disgusted and annoyed.

That was trash. Easily a top notch caliber "worst ppv to ever happen" type show. just terrible the whole way through.

It wasn't that bad. Nothing can top early WWF 95-96 days or December to Dismember.

[cdub6238]

Originally Posted by Nyfancam01

watched it with a few friends..

NONE of us reacted or anything when the 3 count happened... we all just sat there.. pretty much disgusted and annoyed.

That was trash. Easily a top notch caliber "worst ppv to ever happen" type show. just terrible the whole way through.

ehh it wasnt terrible all the way through...

Joe/Zayn was good, but short
Neville/JG was probably match of the night

Womans title was ok, but not great...just ending booking was derrp
Reigns/Braun was ok, but again...ending booking was terrible