Blazers trade Mason Plumlee to Nuggets for Jusuf Nurkic

TWard · 02-12-2017, 01:27 PM

Per Woj, obviously. Portland now owns 3 first rounders in the 2017 draft

sportzluvr1 · 02-12-2017, 01:29 PM

Jokic at the 4 as a playmaking-big and Plumlee at the 5 to clean up and add defense/athleticism? I like it.

The Nuggz are coming...

Rareairx23 · 02-12-2017, 01:31 PM

Great move for the nuggets!

IronMonkey415 · 02-12-2017, 01:34 PM

The NUGGETS times is NOW

Psufan80 · 02-12-2017, 01:42 PM

Great move for nuggets, an athletic big man that can play with Jokic

mindcycle · 02-12-2017, 01:46 PM

Good trade for Denver. I like what I've seen of Plumlee. Sad to see Nurk go but hopefully he'll be happier and get more playing time in Portland. I think he can still be a great player under the right system.

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inopethflames · 02-12-2017, 01:53 PM

great trade for portland i would say, a 1st rd pick around #20 or something plus trading the players. i would not wanna pay someone with absolutely zero offensive game like plumlee close to 20 mil per year which is what portland would have had to do, i think nurkic could easily average 15 and 10+ if given enough minutes, plus he is physical and young.

i dont know why denver refused to play nurkic very much, jokic is probably their franchise player, but they couldnt play nurkic at pf or at least 20 mins per game? i dont know why they let lauvergne go either, he did well in his minutes. they went from having 3 good young centers to now having 2 and plumlee doesnt have the potential of nurkic. hes not bad in all aspects except for being a total non-shooter. id say portland won that exchange.

lambyzzle79 · 02-12-2017, 01:55 PM

damn don't like this trade for portland plumlee was a good player

Yaga · 02-12-2017, 01:58 PM

This trade could work for both teams... Nurkic has a lot of potential but was so unhappy in Denver. If he gets his spark back, he may do well.

Mason might fit right in with Denver's system so he might do well too... could be a win win!

TheVolta · 02-12-2017, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sportzluvr1

Jokic at the 4 as a playmaking-big and Plumlee at the 5 to clean up and add defense/athleticism? I like it.

The Nuggz are coming...

Jokic cannot play the 4. Plumlee will be the backup C.
Still love this trade for Denver. Plumlee is a smart player which is completely opposite of Nurkic.

Yaga · 02-12-2017, 02:05 PM

Just thinking... what is Denver going to do with Plumlee? Move him to pf?

They tried moving Jokic to pf and that didn't work, so they're obviously going to leave him at C with the beast of a season he's having. Are they going to try playing with two centers again after the disaster that happened with Jokic/Nurkic at the start of the season?

TWard · 02-12-2017, 02:05 PM

I like this trade for both sides. Nuggets get a solid player who is smart with the basketball, and the Blazers get a 3rd 1st-round pick in a stacked draft -- if they can hit on all, or even 2, it'll be a win for them.

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mindcycle · 02-12-2017, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaga

This trade could work for both teams... Nurkic has a lot of potential but was so unhappy in Denver. If he gets his spark back, he may do well.

Mason might fit right in with Denver's system so he might do well too... could be a win win!

Yeah, this is exactly what I was thinking. It's been well known that Nurkic wasn't happy with his role since Jokic was put into the starting lineup. He just didn't fit playing next to him and he wasn't that great wth the second unit either. They tried but it just never worked. I just hope Plumlee is a fit.

nabogato · 02-12-2017, 02:20 PM

Plumlee will be backup at C . Jokic has some foul trouble quite offen so there will be much playing time for him i belive . He fits for Denver as he assist good like Jokic .

andy88c · 02-12-2017, 02:29 PM

This is a great trade for Portland. It could be a good trade for Denver, too (win/win scenario).

Plumlee's K expires at the end of the year. It's clear why Portland did it and this is a smart trade for them no matter what. They replace Plumlee with a capable C, one who offers more rim protection, too. There was no way they were going to re-sign Plumlee at the end of the year anyway, unless they moved both Crabbe and Turner (each of which was a terrible contract this offseason). Adding another pick is huge.

I don't like Denver moving that pick. I'm a Grizz fan, but I don't think it's homerish to say that this pick won't be in the lottery. However, it's still a first round pick and Portland could very well move up in the draft with it. Nurkic wasn't working, but I doubt Plumlee is going to love coming off the bench for a mediocre team, either. They could win the 8th spot, I suppose, but why do they even want to be fed to the Warriors? Better off just getting another lottery pick this year. They just have SO much mediocrity at every position. Jamal Murray could be interesting and Jokic is one of the top bigs in the league, but that's pretty much it. Faried is overrated and isn't a great interior defender. Wilson Chandler, Jameer Nelson (/ Emmanuel Mudiay), and Gary Harris are nothing special. Barton's as good sixth man, though. This team really kind of needs everything and this trade doesn't really move the needle in that regard. If Plumlee can play with Jokic, it could be good, though, but again, I don't see why they want the 8 seed.

WaiverWire · 02-12-2017, 02:47 PM

I like this trade a lot for Portland. Denver has a lot of great players, but I'm not sure how they fit together.

IamRalpho · 02-12-2017, 02:47 PM

Portland's salary cap is a disaster, so this helps and gives me 3 1st rounders in a loaded draft.

Surprised how far Nurkic has fallen

sportzluvr1 · 02-12-2017, 02:52 PM

Damn, that's a ton of money for your backup center...was thinking they'd play him and Jokic together so Plum could camouflage some of Jokic' Defensive problems. They probably will see some time together i suppose, just not starting.

mindcycle · 02-12-2017, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by andy88c

They could win the 8th spot, I suppose, but why do they even want to be fed to the Warriors? Better off just getting another lottery pick this year. They just have SO much mediocrity at every position. Jamal Murray could be interesting and Jokic is one of the top bigs in the league, but that's pretty much it. Faried is overrated and isn't a great interior defender. Wilson Chandler, Jameer Nelson (/ Emmanuel Mudiay), and Gary Harris are nothing special. Barton's as good sixth man, though. This team really kind of needs everything and this trade doesn't really move the needle in that regard. If Plumlee can play with Jokic, it could be good, though, but again, I don't see why they want the 8 seed.

I agree with your logic here but we really need to make the playoffs this year to get our fanbase back on track and for our young guys to experience some sort of success. That's priority number one IMO, and was likely at least some of what sparked this trade i'd guess.

We've had some of the lowest attendance in the league and it just sucks for the players as there's no one there to hype them up at home games. The exception being the occasional weekend game when it's like half full at the Pepsi Center.. It's just sad. When the team played over in London with the backing of a packed stadium they fed off that energy and came out with a blowout performance. It was almost all I needed to see to realize that it's one of the key elements we're lacking here in Denver that most other winning franchises have.

I fully realize that's not all there is in creating a winning franchise, but it would be a huge boost for the team and fans IMO to get to the playoffs this year. Even if it means getting blown to pieces by the Warriors, it's at least something. It's also the perfect time to have that happen with the Broncos and Avs both coming up short this year.

Will Plumlee help get us there? I hope so but it's certainly not like we traded for a superstar or anything so who knows if it'll work out.. I think we need to make a few more moves before we can really pull ahead so i'm hoping another trade deal or two goes down before the deadline, but this is a good start IMHO.

yankeesfan24 · 02-12-2017, 03:13 PM

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Hopefully he gets some playoff burn this year. Definitely not a traditional center, but a gamer. Nets could go after him as a RFA if BroLo is traded.

clipperboy24 · 02-12-2017, 03:35 PM

Seems like it could be a win win but I'd say the advantage seems to be with Portland. Getting a 1st rounder and nurkic is a nice haul. He has a lot of upside where I don't think plumlee has much more than what you see

bdoody42 · 02-12-2017, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by IronMonkey415

The NUGGETS times is NOW

To lose in the first round, but hey it's progress.

Brett Keith · 02-12-2017, 04:09 PM

Plumlee is smart and a very good passer, which are two of Jokic's most prominent attributes. Even though he's not on the level of Jokic, he should allow the Nuggets' second unit (or any lineup without Jokic) to operate similarly to the starting lineup, with much less of a drop-off, theoretically. Because of Plumlee's higher basketball IQ, superior (and more willing) passing, and better athleticism, he should be able to play with Jokic for stretches without many of the problems that the "Jurkic" lineup had. Plumlee can take on most of the defensive assignments for the more athletic bigs, and can help with rim protection on drives where Jokic still is not quite quick enough to slide over.

bustsomewax · 02-12-2017, 05:37 PM

Don't understand this trade for Denver at all. Part of me thinks they move Plumlee in another deal.

02-12-2017, 01:27 PM	#1
TWard Banned Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Memphis Posts: 9,780 tylersportsguy	Blazers trade Mason Plumlee to Nuggets for Jusuf Nurkic Per Woj, obviously. Portland now owns 3 first rounders in the 2017 draft

02-12-2017, 01:55 PM	#8
lambyzzle79 Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 3,005 lambyzzle79 lambyzzle79	damn don't like this trade for portland plumlee was a good player __________________ Collecting all Damian Lillard cards! PM me what you got! Also collecting current Blazers roster Rookie Cards and Manny Pacquiao cards! SORRY I DO NOT SHIP/TRADE INTERNATIONAL!!!

02-12-2017, 02:29 PM	#15
andy88c Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 713	This is a great trade for Portland. It could be a good trade for Denver, too (win/win scenario). Plumlee's K expires at the end of the year. It's clear why Portland did it and this is a smart trade for them no matter what. They replace Plumlee with a capable C, one who offers more rim protection, too. There was no way they were going to re-sign Plumlee at the end of the year anyway, unless they moved both Crabbe and Turner (each of which was a terrible contract this offseason). Adding another pick is huge. I don't like Denver moving that pick. I'm a Grizz fan, but I don't think it's homerish to say that this pick won't be in the lottery. However, it's still a first round pick and Portland could very well move up in the draft with it. Nurkic wasn't working, but I doubt Plumlee is going to love coming off the bench for a mediocre team, either. They could win the 8th spot, I suppose, but why do they even want to be fed to the Warriors? Better off just getting another lottery pick this year. They just have SO much mediocrity at every position. Jamal Murray could be interesting and Jokic is one of the top bigs in the league, but that's pretty much it. Faried is overrated and isn't a great interior defender. Wilson Chandler, Jameer Nelson (/ Emmanuel Mudiay), and Gary Harris are nothing special. Barton's as good sixth man, though. This team really kind of needs everything and this trade doesn't really move the needle in that regard. If Plumlee can play with Jokic, it could be good, though, but again, I don't see why they want the 8 seed. __________________ Predators / Grizzlies / Bengals

02-12-2017, 02:47 PM	#17
IamRalpho Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Boston Posts: 17,686 IamSilly	Portland's salary cap is a disaster, so this helps and gives me 3 1st rounders in a loaded draft. Surprised how far Nurkic has fallen __________________ If you have under 25 iTrader feedback or any negative, I will ask you to send first I do not ask for much, but please leave feedback if everything goes well with our deal.

02-12-2017, 03:35 PM	#21
clipperboy24 Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,628	Seems like it could be a win win but I'd say the advantage seems to be with Portland. Getting a 1st rounder and nurkic is a nice haul. He has a lot of upside where I don't think plumlee has much more than what you see __________________ Looking for nice cards of Mfiondu Kabengele

02-12-2017, 01:29 PM	#2
sportzluvr1 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: the blue waffle of the Great Midwest Posts: 7,709	Jokic at the 4 as a playmaking-big and Plumlee at the 5 to clean up and add defense/athleticism? I like it. The Nuggz are coming...

02-12-2017, 01:31 PM	#3
Rareairx23 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: new hampshire Posts: 6,795 2011champs41	Great move for the nuggets!

02-12-2017, 01:34 PM	#4
IronMonkey415 Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 44,118 ironmonkeyfromsf	The NUGGETS times is NOW

02-12-2017, 01:42 PM	#5
Psufan80 Banned Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 232	Great move for nuggets, an athletic big man that can play with Jokic

02-12-2017, 01:46 PM	#6
mindcycle Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 5,043	Good trade for Denver. I like what I've seen of Plumlee. Sad to see Nurk go but hopefully he'll be happier and get more playing time in Portland. I think he can still be a great player under the right system. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

02-12-2017, 01:53 PM	#7
inopethflames Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: illinois Posts: 4,343 loiskelly123456	great trade for portland i would say, a 1st rd pick around #20 or something plus trading the players. i would not wanna pay someone with absolutely zero offensive game like plumlee close to 20 mil per year which is what portland would have had to do, i think nurkic could easily average 15 and 10+ if given enough minutes, plus he is physical and young. i dont know why denver refused to play nurkic very much, jokic is probably their franchise player, but they couldnt play nurkic at pf or at least 20 mins per game? i dont know why they let lauvergne go either, he did well in his minutes. they went from having 3 good young centers to now having 2 and plumlee doesnt have the potential of nurkic. hes not bad in all aspects except for being a total non-shooter. id say portland won that exchange.

02-12-2017, 01:58 PM	#9
Yaga Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 7,525	This trade could work for both teams... Nurkic has a lot of potential but was so unhappy in Denver. If he gets his spark back, he may do well. Mason might fit right in with Denver's system so he might do well too... could be a win win!

02-12-2017, 02:05 PM	#11
Yaga Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 7,525	Just thinking... what is Denver going to do with Plumlee? Move him to pf? They tried moving Jokic to pf and that didn't work, so they're obviously going to leave him at C with the beast of a season he's having. Are they going to try playing with two centers again after the disaster that happened with Jokic/Nurkic at the start of the season?

02-12-2017, 02:20 PM	#14
nabogato Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Poland/US Posts: 873	Plumlee will be backup at C . Jokic has some foul trouble quite offen so there will be much playing time for him i belive . He fits for Denver as he assist good like Jokic .

02-12-2017, 02:47 PM	#16
WaiverWire Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 2,935	I like this trade a lot for Portland. Denver has a lot of great players, but I'm not sure how they fit together.

02-12-2017, 02:52 PM	#18
sportzluvr1 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: the blue waffle of the Great Midwest Posts: 7,709	Damn, that's a ton of money for your backup center...was thinking they'd play him and Jokic together so Plum could camouflage some of Jokic' Defensive problems. They probably will see some time together i suppose, just not starting.

02-12-2017, 03:13 PM	#20
yankeesfan24 Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 19,031 tommy2221race yankeesfan24	IMG_7134 IMG_7133 Hopefully he gets some playoff burn this year. Definitely not a traditional center, but a gamer. Nets could go after him as a RFA if BroLo is traded. __________________ Always looking for high-end Spencer Dinwiddie, Arsenal, and Mike Muscala

02-12-2017, 04:09 PM	#23
Brett Keith Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 234 bj_2_justin	Plumlee is smart and a very good passer, which are two of Jokic's most prominent attributes. Even though he's not on the level of Jokic, he should allow the Nuggets' second unit (or any lineup without Jokic) to operate similarly to the starting lineup, with much less of a drop-off, theoretically. Because of Plumlee's higher basketball IQ, superior (and more willing) passing, and better athleticism, he should be able to play with Jokic for stretches without many of the problems that the "Jurkic" lineup had. Plumlee can take on most of the defensive assignments for the more athletic bigs, and can help with rim protection on drives where Jokic still is not quite quick enough to slide over.

02-12-2017, 05:37 PM	#24
bustsomewax Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: USA Posts: 6,883 rockymountaincollectibles_1 goapps2014	Don't understand this trade for Denver at all. Part of me thinks they move Plumlee in another deal.