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[sjorgen5]

Originally Posted by Pete Schweddy

Since Hillary is ahead in the popular vote, I assumed he was referring to her supporters.

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Just shook my head instead, to the poster and commenters. My concern is the sheltering some kids get these days and the typical responses to how someone feels that come about in the comments section as seen here. Since when did mocking, laughing, and teasing become so acceptable by people who should know better, instead of simply being able to rationally disagree/argue your opinion in a constructive manner? More people should be ashamed of their actions and how they conduct themselves, regardless of political affiliation.

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by tennelson55

During the third debate, this was asked...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...y.html?0p19G=c

Not sure what there is to criticize. The man won.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by atoaz12

Assemble in a mass violently is what I should have said
Every election has push back. And I admitted that there were some awfully racist things said and still said.

The awfulness of humanity will never be completely extinguished.

But what we're witnessing is physically out of hand and out of line.

The one who don't act out physically, were emotionally unstable. Did you see people tweeting out suicide prevention hotline numbers because of the massive amount of suicidal message/posts/tweets? So sad



I'm not sure how to respond to this. They didn't lose.

That's fair. I just don't like the divide that's all. I stand by my statement that anyone destroying anything or causing violence needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

I admittedly voted Hillary. I was shocked that Donald Trump won. Personally, with the debt ballooning I didn't think it was time to be cutting taxes as he proposed. Everything else was a toss-up issue for me. Both had their faults policy wise and neither spoke to me, so I had to narrow it down to that one issue (sad, I know). On a positive note, if projection models are correct I should have roughly a $4-5,000 tax break. That will be nice, but if so we'll just be kicking the debt can further down the road. Oh well...

I woke up this morning and even though it's raining where I live the Earth didn't blow up. I sincerely wish President-Elect Trump (feels extremely weird saying that) the absolute best during his Presidency. While I didn't care for the rhetoric at times, I don't think he's some villain that some have made him out to be. I think he has a good chance to be a decent president. All in all he's probably more liberal than Hillary Clinton was.

I'm also happy that those who felt left out during the past 8 years (right or wrong) got a night to feel good. Nobody likes to keep being held down and sometimes everybody needs a little victory now and then. To those that voted for President-Elect Trump I genuinely hope today made you feel good. I may disagree with some of you on a bunch of different political issues, but if yesterday made some of you feel better than you had recently that's good enough for me.

[sjorgen5]

Originally Posted by coachnip13

Not sure what there is to criticize. The man won.

It doesn't matter if he were to win or lose, the point is that he casted doubt on American democracy.

[trixstar]

This is how 18-25's voted



Granted peoples political opinions change as they age.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by trixstar

This is how 18-25's voted



Granted peoples political opinions change as they age.

Does it say how many voted in that age group?

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by sjorgen5

It doesn't matter if he were to win or lose, the point is that he casted doubt on American democracy.

As was his right. He doesn't owe anyone an answer to a stupid question.

[kerg]

Originally Posted by tennelson55

During the third debate, this was asked...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...y.html?0p19G=c

I just took that as he didn't want to answer a question about an unknown situation. If he answers yes, flash forward to the election. He loses the electorate because of being down by 50 votes in NH, he says that he will challenge the results and the media goes nuts because of what he said in the debate for this question.

It was a question posed to get the desired response and Trump gave them exactly what they thought he would or wouldn't say.

Granted, a more appropriate response might have been "I'll accept the verified results" and move on, but that isn't him.

[Pete Schweddy]

Originally Posted by trixstar

This is how 18-25's voted



Granted peoples political opinions change as they age.

As I read elsewhere; "everyone starts a democrat, until they have to get a job and pay bills"

When I was in high school, my whole civics class registered as democrats, because that's what we were taught to believe.

[HBMC]

Originally Posted by sjorgen5

It doesn't matter if he were to win or lose, the point is that he casted doubt on American democracy.

Considering we're not a Democracy, it's kind of hard to undermine something that doesn't exist. And this is from someone who is not a fan of Trump.

[37Jetson]

Originally Posted by tennelson55

Are you really going to say this generation doesn't know how to lose when the trump campaign didn't even address losing? Aren't you baffled by that?
Double standard much???

Say what? The best way to avoid addressing losing is to win....

[tennelson55]

Originally Posted by kerg

Granted, a more appropriate response might have been "I'll accept the verified results" and move on, but that isn't him.

Let me verify that trump said the political scheme is corrupt. He blatantly said that politics is corrupt and that if he lost it's corruption/rigged...

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cnbc....?client=safari

[BoxBreaker72]

Originally Posted by tennelson55

Let me verify that trump said the political scheme is corrupt. He blatantly said that politics is corrupt and that if he lost it's corruption/rigged...

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cnbc....?client=safari

It's over. She left her people standing for hours and didn't even have the courage to face them. This was a brutal election for both sides.

He has said lots of crap, that's my #1 issue with him. His bark is a lot louder than his bite. Just watch. All you can do is watch.

Many democrats will end up loving him. Mark my words.

[sjorgen5]

Originally Posted by HBMC

Considering we're not a Democracy, it's kind of hard to undermine something that doesn't exist. And this is from someone who is not a fan of Trump.

I said that he casted doubt on our American democracy...more simply stated, he casted doubt on our system of government.

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by tennelson55

I'd bet you there are.
Today, in my social welfare class in NY, the class seemed defeated dude. It was apathetic. I don't feel defeated at all. I disagree with republicans in general on the tax issues, but agree that they provide a lot for the US in terms of business.

Our class had 2/26 students absent and there may have been one female who voted trump in our entire class. Majority of students showed. It was a sad day for most and myself.

I also take stats. I'd say 1/2 the students are trump voters and 1/2 Clinton supporters. We had 1/5 of 170 students not there.
I'm not sure what to make of it.

Students such as your life have no real world experience. Your opinion means little to most of us on here. You guys run up debt, then piss and moan when it's time to pay. You guys feel hard working taxpayers like myself should pay for your lazy arse.

You guys own nothing, and have no clue the responsibilities that go into running a household and raising children. Not to mention potentially running a business and being a good spouse.

You young kiddos need to learn how to grow up. It's absolutely pathetic.

[HBMC]

Originally Posted by sjorgen5

I said that he casted doubt on our American democracy...more simply stated, he casted doubt on our system of government.

If you had said our election processses, I would agree and would've never said anything.

I would speculate that statement was advice from some of his nere-do-well advisors to hedge and to keep his base flamed up if he lost.

[Ray27Ray52]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

Students such as your life have no real world experience. Your opinion means little to most of us on here. You guys run up debt, then piss and moan when it's time to pay. You guys feel hard working taxpayers like myself should pay for your lazy arse.

You guys own nothing, and have no clue the responsibilities that go into running a household and raising children. Not to mention potentially running a business and being a good spouse.

You young kiddos need to learn how to grow up. It's absolutely pathetic.

Cold blooded, lacking tact, ruthless, and almost completely true.

[Ronaldo773]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

I'm also happy that those who felt left out during the past 8 years (right or wrong) got a night to feel good. Nobody likes to keep being held down and sometimes everybody needs a little victory now and then. To those that voted for President-Elect Trump I genuinely hope today made you feel good. I may disagree with some of you on a bunch of different political issues, but if yesterday made some of you feel better than you had recently that's good enough for me.

I felt amazing all night. It was hard to reconcile with my girlfriend who is a Latina, my elation at someone tearing down the establishment, the lobbyists and big money donors, as it is someone she simply associate's Trump with racism and a hatred towards the Latin community.

I had sat her down before and explained to her my views. Basically that he was the BEST choice for the Hispanic community. Unfiltered immigrants from Mexico that are potentially rapists or murderers (obviously not anywhere near the majority as most are great people, but nonetheless they are there) don't end up in middle-class suburban communities, they end up in Mexican communities doing crimes against fellow Mexicans. I support Trump because I don't want to see victims of violence that could be prevented by simply checking someone's name on their passport and seeing they were a criminal in Mexico and thus turning them away.

Then there's the economic aspect. Consider you are a landscaper. It's an industry that is largely staffed by immigrants. If you currently are making $10 per hour and then a wave of migrants accustomed to $10 a day in Mexico arrives, they will be willing to work for less. You will likely find yourself out of work or taking a reduced wage as a result of immigration.

Thirdly, the facts are the immigrants from Mexico use food stamps, government assistance for health care, and other services more so than immigrants from Europe. They have a significantly higher birth rate as well, so the burden on taxpayers can grow exponentially with time. Simply put there are already large sections of our inner cities that are experiencing horrible poverty and we should help these people before allowing anymore in. Obviously a Mexican businessman/woman with a degree that will be self-sufficient and pay more taxes than they use in benefits wouldn't negatively affect this and should be still allowed to become citizens. We may want to think twice about taking on any more migrants that will be dependent on our tax dollars though considering our huge deficit. The bigger picture is not against Mexicans but rather this idea that we should take care of those already here, that have paid taxes and gone about becoming American citizens, that have fought in the US Military, before we take care of more and more that just came over the border. There is only a finite amount of resources and taking on more migrants in need of aid when we are in a deficit is like someone that is broke with three kids deciding on having more children simply not a good choice.

That's my $0.02. A little piece of me hurt to see the disappointment in my mom's face as I'm sure she was excited to see a women become POTUS. I'm sure there will be one soon, more qualified, more charismatic and not laden with scandals that can run this country properly. It's only a matter of time.

[tacoma34]

Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

There are reports of college kids having to take the day off of school because they are so distraught.

That's ridiculous and not normal.

My wifes sister goes to University of Washington. Her teacher walked in today crying and told the students that there will be no participation points or homework for the rest of the week and that they can stay home if they need to. There is also multiple "healing centers" on campus if people need to talk.

[Homerun]

I wonder how long it'll be before there's a Kardashian in office.

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by GoTribe!!!

How is he not banned for spewing this crap.

He is, by far, the most racist Anti-American individual on this forum. His posts are full of hatred for this country and for white people.

Not to mention he posts false data and lies.

[kerg]

Originally Posted by tennelson55

Let me verify that trump said the political scheme is corrupt. He blatantly said that politics is corrupt and that if he lost it's corruption/rigged...

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cnbc....?client=safari

If I recall right, Bernie Sanders said the same thing and Bill Clinton had transcripts where he said the system was rigged. I'd argue that if the Democratic selection process wasn't rigged towards Hillary, it might be President-Elect Sanders this morning.

So, on some level, Yes the system is rigged.

Doesn't mean that we have a corrupt Banana Republic.

Every candidate throws around the word 'rigged' so, guess I'm just numb to it.

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by tacoma34

My wifes sister goes to University of Washington. Her teacher walked in today crying and told the students that there will be no participation points or homework for the rest of the week and that they can stay home if they need to. There is also multiple "healing centers" on campus if people need to talk.

We should break the entire West Coast away from the United States. Its disgraceful the things they spew, the laws they allow. San Francisco is an embarrassment(just one example).

[BoxBreaker72]

Originally Posted by tacoma34

My wifes sister goes to University of Washington. Her teacher walked in today crying and told the students that there will be no participation points or homework for the rest of the week and that they can stay home if they need to. There is also multiple "healing centers" on campus if people need to talk.

.........................I...................I...Have no words for that.

That is being dangerously mentally weak.

If nothing else, this was a much needed punch in the gut for those entitled children.

There was a 19 year old girl here that was taking Trump lawn signs and when she was caught said "I don't agree with your views".

It's out of control.

[lionsfan20]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

Students such as your life have no real world experience. Your opinion means little to most of us on here. You guys run up debt, then piss and moan when it's time to pay. You guys feel hard working taxpayers like myself should pay for your lazy arse.

You guys own nothing, and have no clue the responsibilities that go into running a household and raising children. Not to mention potentially running a business and being a good spouse.

You young kiddos need to learn how to grow up. It's absolutely pathetic.

Amen brother! I am absolutely disgusted by how young people view the world today.

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