2016 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - All Politics & Dumb Opinions Here

[TheFrenzy]

Pretty sure, after surveying this election, that the entire country owes Obama a big, fat apology.

#sorryobama

[trixstar]

Originally Posted by tacoma34

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Sorry what did I post that was incorrect?

[trixstar]

People magazine reporter now jumping on the list

Attacked by Donald Trump - A PEOPLE Writer's Story

[JohnRyno]

Originally Posted by tke1600

Media is going all out tonight publishing stories of women who all decided to tell their story today. I honestly don't know what is more scary, if all the stories are real or all of them are fabricated for political reasons.

I find it utterly depressing that I instinctually scrutinize potential victims of sexual assault because these cases are used as political currency.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by trixstar

People magazine reporter now jumping on the list

Attacked by Donald Trump - A PEOPLE Writer's Story

I wonder if any of these women realized they could have made millions simply by suing Donald Trump and accusing him of sexual assault. All of the friends of these people ... not one suggested to press charges or sue DONALD TRUMP? It's literally like suing the Rich Uncle Pennybags from Monopoly. What kind of advice are these women getting?

[trixstar]

From Fox News, they just moved Utah to toss up

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by trixstar

People magazine reporter now jumping on the list

Attacked by Donald Trump - A PEOPLE Writer's Story

And can you imagine a story like this during the primaries? Or even last year after Trump announced his run for President?

"I tried to act normal. I had a job to do, and I was determined to do it. I sat in a chair that faced Trump, who waited for his wife on a loveseat. The butler left us, and I fumbled with my tape recorder. Trump smiled and leaned forward.
“You know we’re going to have an affair, don’t you?” he declared, in the same confident tone he uses when he says he’s going to make America great again. “Have you ever been to Peter Luger’s for steaks? I’ll take you. We’re going to have an affair, I’m telling you.” He also referenced the infamous cover of the New York Post during his affair with Marla Maples. “You remember,” he said. “Best Sex I Ever Had.”

If only she had the tape recorder on ... damn. How unlucky.

[trixstar]

From 2 days ago


@benshapiro That Cooper grilling was a complete set-up, and Trump fell for it. Every woman Trump ever kissed without permission will now come out.

[VeedonFleece]

Would love to know what it is about serial philanderer and self-confessed pussy-grabber Donald Trump's character that makes Need Chapmans so convinced he's innocent of all these accusations.

I'm sure you'd be laughing your ass off if he said he was gonna be dating your 10yo daughter once she came of age too. Who wouldn't?

[Nicnac]

Originally Posted by VeedonFleece

Would love to know what it is about serial philanderer and self-confessed pussy-grabber Donald Trump's character that makes Need Chapmans so convinced he's innocent of all these accusations.

I'm sure you'd be laughing your ass off if he said he was gonna be dating your 10yo daughter once she came of age too. Who wouldn't?

Their rationalization: It's worse to have a questionable spouse than it is to have a president who boasts about his sexist/racist/fantastical beliefs.

Anything Trump is accused of saying is clearly media spin. Anything Hillary does is clearly being skillfully hidden by the same media (yet somehow we know all about it).

...

The truth: Trump has given us a clear plan on how to sexually assault women. He hasn't given us a plan on how he is going to give tax breaks to everyone while simultaneously fixing the economy while making companies move their manufacturing back to the Midwest while continuing to manufacture all of his products in China.

While kicking out the damn foreigners while banging/marrying the hot ones. He is the quintessential Fox News talking points candidate.

I suggest everyone re-watch Anchorman 2.

Guy below me expects 'real change' from Trump. Wouldn't you rather vote for the candidate whose first reaction is NOT "they disagree with me so jail/kill them".

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by VeedonFleece

Would love to know what it is about serial philanderer and self-confessed pussy-grabber Donald Trump's character that makes Need Chapmans so convinced he's innocent of all these accusations.

I'm sure you'd be laughing your ass off if he said he was gonna be dating your 10yo daughter once she came of age too. Who wouldn't?

Innocent, no. I don't believe him to be an innocent guy, and for the 100th time, Donald Trumps character means nothing to me. He's a blowhard, he's a liar, he's defensive, probably aggressive toward women in his earlier days ... certainly not a role model or someone I would even consider to be "moral" on any level.

But its common sense to question the accusations all coming to light between 7pm ET and 11pm ET on October 12th 2016, after a video of a few days prior surfacing. Not a single woman sued Trump, not a single woman pressed charges ... where were these women last year? Where were they earlier this year, the NY Times was sending out articles to every local news outlet begging for anyone w/ dirt on Trump to come forward? Nowhere, because this is the media pushing back against Trump for a week full of Wiki-Leaks emails.

I mean, have you seen the work of the two authors of the article published by the NYT? Over 600 slam Trump pieces this year alone between them, it's literally all they do everyday ... there once was a time you know where a journalist would spend weeks on a story, cite sources, do background checks etc, but both of these women emailed the NYT Monday (they say), and an article was up 48 hours later!

And w/ regard to his comment about the 10 year old, it's funny, and it's funny because it's true; an old white rich guy dates younger women, stop the presses. If you want to look at it as anything other than a joke, then that's on you.

I have no illusions as to who Donald Trump is. I'm voting for him not because of who he is, but because of what a vote for him represents (to me). Real change.

[tke1600]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

And can you imagine a story like this during the primaries? Or even last year after Trump announced his run for President?

"I tried to act normal. I had a job to do, and I was determined to do it. I sat in a chair that faced Trump, who waited for his wife on a loveseat. The butler left us, and I fumbled with my tape recorder. Trump smiled and leaned forward.
“You know we’re going to have an affair, don’t you?” he declared, in the same confident tone he uses when he says he’s going to make America great again. “Have you ever been to Peter Luger’s for steaks? I’ll take you. We’re going to have an affair, I’m telling you.” He also referenced the infamous cover of the New York Post during his affair with Marla Maples. “You remember,” he said. “Best Sex I Ever Had.”

If only she had the tape recorder on ... damn. How unlucky.

The whole story is written like a dramatic novel. Has anyone used this type of language to tell their horror story of being an assault victim? I'm just irked that tonight just happened to be the night every Trump victim decided to speak out after so many years. Trump has not denied something so vigorously as he has these new allegations.

[Clarka3]

Originally Posted by tke1600

Have you read all of the info published or just selectively picking out Wikileaks articles that fit the narrative?

what narrative?

i don't know what you guys do in your minds, but in 2012 the same "mainstream media is lying" narrative was in full force with Karl Rove, and we all saw how he lost his damn mind when it became evident Romney wasn't winning.

Originally Posted by babyfaceposey

Maybe if there was not social media the msm could continue to hide the facts, but at this point as someone stated " the house of cards is falling".

Social media is terrible. it's just the wild-west of sharing whatever headline grabs your attention.

Originally Posted by jstephens24

I was going to kinda ask the same question.....what would it take for you to not vote Clinton?

a qualified candidate on the other side. literally anybody but Trump would have my vote (maybe not Cruz because we are pretty much opposites on all his positions).

Originally Posted by trixstar

How insane is Rush?

He's complaining about consent?

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Pretty sure, after surveying this election, that the entire country owes Obama a big, fat apology.

#sorryobama

yup. he's looking better by the day.

[tke1600]

Originally Posted by Clarka3

what narrative?

i don't know what you guys do in your minds, but in 2012 the same "mainstream media is lying" narrative was in full force with Karl Rove, and we all saw how he lost his damn mind when it became evident Romney wasn't winning.




Social media is terrible. it's just the wild-west of sharing whatever headline grabs your attention.





a qualified candidate on the other side. literally anybody but Trump would have my vote (maybe not Cruz because we are pretty much opposites on all his positions).



He's complaining about consent?





yup. he's looking better by the day.

Welcome back now that the focus is off the wikileaks scandals.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by tke1600

Welcome back now that the focus is off the wikileaks scandals.

Exactly correct. O'Keefe slated to launch something "Nuclear" soon, more wiki leaks emails ... I expect NYT or WaPo to write a damaging piece about Trump and $125,000 of his foundation money he used to buy Cuban cigars from Castro himself.

It's a constant battle by hackers to release things that actually happened vs. the media telling me why I should be outraged at Donald Trump. Still fascinating stuff.

[Clarka3]

Originally Posted by tke1600

Welcome back now that the focus is off the wikileaks scandals.

they haven't released one thing of substance.

[tke1600]

Originally Posted by Clarka3

they haven't released one thing of substance.

You should actually read them.

[Clarka3]

Originally Posted by tke1600

You should actually read them.

how do you know they are reliable? It was found that the first part of the "october surprise" couldn't be substantiated. That immediately casts the rest of the leaks in doubt.

If i were looking to do damage, I would lead off with something that was innocuous but easily traced/confirmed. Then, I would build up with the more damaging but slightly hard to verify stuff. The fact that Assange went with something supposedly big but couldn't be proven tells me that he's got nothing solid.


but i changed my answer about what would get me to vote against Clinton at this point- Alex Jones would have to support her and denounce Trump with the same fervor that he attacks Obama with. That man is batshit crazy, and if he was supporting the candidate I was thinking about voting for, I'd change my tune real quick.

[tke1600]

Originally Posted by Clarka3

how do you know they are reliable? It was found that the first part of the "october surprise" couldn't be substantiated. That immediately casts the rest of the leaks in doubt.

If i were looking to do damage, I would lead off with something that was innocuous but easily traced/confirmed. Then, I would build up with the more damaging but slightly hard to verify stuff. The fact that Assange went with something supposedly big but couldn't be proven tells me that he's got nothing solid.


but i changed my answer about what would get me to vote against Clinton at this point- Alex Jones would have to support her and denounce Trump with the same fervor that he attacks Obama with. That man is batshit crazy, and if he was supporting the candidate I was thinking about voting for, I'd change my tune real quick.

Clinton herself authenticated the emails when she answered the "private vs public position" question live at the debate that came from the new wikileaks release.

[Clarka3]

Originally Posted by tke1600

Clinton herself authenticated the emails when she answered the "private vs public position" question live at the debate that came from the new wikileaks release.

did she? I don't remember hearing that. Honestly, but then again I missed the first 10-15 minutes.



now, i would like to point out that when all the women were coming out about Bill Cosby, it was the same. "no way these are all true". But enough were.

[tke1600]

Originally Posted by Clarka3

did she? I don't remember hearing that. Honestly, but then again I missed the first 10-15 minutes.



now, i would like to point out that when all the women were coming out about Bill Cosby, it was the same. "no way these are all true". But enough were.

Yea. They even prefaced the question by saying it came from wikileaks first.

None of the cases tonight about Trump have been about actual rape. Can't compare him just yet to Bill Cosby. Those stories won't magically appear until the big stuff about Clinton drops.

[tacoma34]

The election really brings out the worst in people. Honestly, I don't think we even need a President, they are just glorified royalty. All they really serve as is something for the misinformed to point their finger at when something doesn't go their way. Then the POTUS will turn around and point their finger at Congress. The average citizen doesn't even understand the political system we have in place and is too ignorant to learn it. Their vote is cast for superficial reasons because that is all the media will report on.

At the core, a person has a set of opinions and indulges in whatever "news" network fits that narrative. This is what becomes their truth and most will support it blindly. I think "talking politics" only serves as a way for people with WAY too much time on their hands to feel empowered by belittling others viewpoints with their own twisted POV. The internet has given fictitious sources to back an infinite amount of stances on an issue. If I wanna believe that Hillary is the spawn of Satan then I could come up with "sources" in a matter of seconds that support it.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Clarka3

now, i would like to point out that when all the women were coming out about Bill Cosby, it was the same. "no way these are all true". But enough were.

I don't remember them all coming out within 4 hours of each other during a Presidential campaign, timed like a bomb. And I don't remember them coming out the day after David Brock offered millions of dollars to anyone who could produce dirt on Donald Trump.

And I don't remember any of the women saying they were drugged, or forced to have sex with Trump.

Other then that, Cosby is Donald Trump.

[tke1600]

Originally Posted by tacoma34

The election really brings out the worst in people. Honestly, I don't think we even need a President, they are just glorified royalty. All they really serve as is something for the misinformed to point their finger at when something doesn't go their way. Then the POTUS will turn around and point their finger at Congress. The average citizen doesn't even understand the political system we have in place and is too ignorant to learn it. Their vote is cast for superficial reasons because that is all the media will report on.

At the core, a person has a set of opinions and indulges in whatever "news" network fits that narrative. This is what becomes their truth and most will support it blindly. I think "talking politics" only serves as a way for people with WAY too much time on their hands to feel empowered by belittling others viewpoints with their own twisted POV. The internet has given fictitious sources to back an infinite amount of stances on an issue. If I wanna believe that Hillary is the spawn of Satan then I could come up with "sources" in a matter of seconds that support it.

Unfortunately we get things like obamacare and Supreme Court justices based on who we elect. I'm very worried about a criminal who is corrupt being the one to make these type of decisions.

Also, my issue is not with someone's views, it's almost solely now with trying to end massive corruption and what stands in the way of ending this corruption.

[xbignick]

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