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Clarka3 · 09-26-2016, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

Clarka-

Please address that you atleast read the response to the "skirting taxes" explanation above. They are spot on.

I think sometimes that maybe you do not have alot of life experience outside of the "everyone is great" bubble.

I did- but if I quoted is post it would have quoted nothing (since he answered inside my quoted post).

that's why I didn't address it again. I trust he does know more than I do with that regard.

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Originally Posted by dodgerfanjohn

Lol dude. My grandmother lived off Lorena and Whittier Bl in East LA until she passed in 1997.

That places her just a few blocks from Olympic Bl where there were 20+ murders a year for several years in the late 80's/early 90's, largely from illegals.

Lol that you understand gangs though your leaders apparently are hellbent on allowing in enough Muslims to make sure you do.

I don't understand this response to what I said? You said that Veedon couldn't understand gangs because he's a foreigner. I was checking to see if you realized gangs aren't just an American problem. Brits have gangs to worry about. Germans have gangs. Shoot, the gangs in central Africa blow most of our gangs away.

TheHeel · 09-26-2016, 03:58 PM

Lol.

The wall.

The yugeeeeee wall.

VeedonFleece · 09-26-2016, 04:00 PM

Belfast still has a wall...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_lines

jstephens24 · 09-26-2016, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by VeedonFleece

Isn't Clarka American?

Edit: Doesn't matter, I guess. Got a bit confused by DFJ's use of 'your leaders.'

worse. a democrat

irfuji · 09-26-2016, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jarrodsalas

Please make it stop. I may be right behind Dodgerfan soon.

I posted statements taken directly from independent news organizations to clearly and conclusively show how absurd it is to say that "Hillary is a liar so I'm voting Trump" really is.

The only response is. Please make it stop.

No facts. No actual logical or reasonable rebuttal.

So I'll say this. You please stop. You want to back Trump then go ahead. That is 100% your right. If you want to have an intelligent conversation about the candidacy and qualifications of the two Presidential nominees, then come in here with facts. Come in here with an opinion born of actual facts and figures.

VeedonFleece · 09-26-2016, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jstephens24

worse. a democrat

Lol.

It will piss some of your countrymen off further when they find out that my house will be casting its one vote for Hillary!

Astros19 · 09-26-2016, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jarrodsalas

Please make it stop. I may be right behind Dodgerfan soon.

The funniest part was the link that took you to CNN.
Yea, no bias from them folks.
The reality is Trump is about the most sarcastic person I have ever listened to, and sadly the media shuts off their sarcasm detectors any time he speaks.

Clarka3 · 09-26-2016, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jstephens24

worse. a democrat

haha.

i prefer Liberal. the Democratic Party isn't liberal. They may be slightly more liberal than the republican establishment, but not by much.

jstephens24 · 09-26-2016, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by irfuji

I posted statements taken directly from independent news organizations to clearly and conclusively show how absurd it is to say that "Hillary is a liar so I'm voting Trump" really is.

The only response is. Please make it stop.

No facts. No actual logical or reasonable rebuttal.

So I'll say this. You please stop. You want to back Trump then go ahead. That is 100% your right. If you want to have an intelligent conversation about the candidacy and qualifications of the two Presidential nominees, then come in here with facts. Come in here with an opinion born of actual facts and figures.

Jarrod has been here from near the beginning and we have 200+ pages. Might be time for some reading

VeedonFleece · 09-26-2016, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Astros19

The funniest part was the link that took you to CNN.
Yea, no bias from them folks.
The reality is Trump is about the most sarcastic person I have ever listened to, and sadly the media shuts off their sarcasm detectors any time he speaks.

Yeah, Americans are dead good at sarcasm.

Astros19 · 09-26-2016, 04:06 PM

While the internet has been in part a blessing, it sucks that anyone at any given time can link articles to support their argument.
It doesn't matter which side you're on, there's always an internet site that easily found to support your statement.
That's why I usually dismiss any links in general from message boards.

Astros19 · 09-26-2016, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by VeedonFleece

Yeah, Americans are dead good at sarcasm.

The media, not so much.

Davesportscards · 09-26-2016, 04:08 PM

Hilarious that Trump supporters are somehow "the deplorables"...

VeedonFleece · 09-26-2016, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Astros19

While the internet has been in part a blessing, it sucks that anyone at any given time can link articles to support their argument.
It doesn't matter which side you're on, there's always an internet site that easily found to support your statement.
That's why I usually dismiss any links in general from message boards.

Trust me...

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cruiserdaddy7 · 09-26-2016, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by VeedonFleece

Isn't Clarka American?

Edit: Doesn't matter, I guess. Got a bit confused by DFJ's use of 'your leaders.'

He's from Ohio, greatest state in the land.

TheHeel · 09-26-2016, 04:11 PM

In between grilling and other life nonsense, I was only able to read the first section.

ClarkA - you might be interested in this...

Grading the Presidential Candidates on Science - Scientific American

VeedonFleece · 09-26-2016, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

He's from Ohio, greatest state in the land.

I'll be in Youngstown next month so you might want to temporarily reconsider.

zachtruitt · 09-26-2016, 04:19 PM

The wall will solve everything. I think Trump is buying up ladder companies just to hedge his bet.

cruiserdaddy7 · 09-26-2016, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by VeedonFleece

I'll be in Youngstown next month so you might want to temporarily reconsider.

I don't believe Ohio to be great anyway. I was born in New York, and am not a fan of the Cincy area.

I would love to love to TN after retirement.

dodgerfanjohn · 09-26-2016, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by irfuji

For the record, the $24M was a number the Post stated. I have no idea how accurate that number is. But go ahead and read the post I threw up just before this one. Even if that number is way higher it would do no good to actually pay for the wall.

I'd like to focus on you saying that Hillary is a liar.

Here- The weekend America's newspapers called Donald Trump a liar - Sep. 25, 2016

The NY Times, Politico, Washing Post and The LA Times found that Trump is by far the bigger liar between Hillary and Trump.

Politico found that Trump averages one falsehood every 3 minutes and 15 seconds. Compared to one every 12 minutes by Hillary.

You can point to the so called scandals surrounding Hillary and there will be a scandal many multiples worse on Trumps record.

You quoted the four most left leaning mainstream fish wraps in the US. Lol at citing the grey old hag on Spring Street and two Jeff Bezos owned outlets along with the NYT as sources for anything.

Astros19 · 09-26-2016, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Davesportscards

Hilarious that Trump supporters are somehow "the deplorables"...

The silence from some of the posters here actually speaks volumes.

quackhead · 09-26-2016, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Clarka3

no, fact checking each other just becomes argument noise. an impartial moderator and fact-checking team is preferable. look at what happens here. we fact check each other, and it just gets lost in the noise.

the ability to catch your opponent's blatant lies shouldn't be a part of the debate that will help americans decide who should be president. Personally, I'd rather have something fact/checked instantly rather than allowing a lie to have time to percolate in the voters' minds. but, that's just me. I guess I prefer the candidate that has the best ideas and track record vs. the best liar.

If it becomes argument noise, that is what the moderator is there for. To stop it and move on to the next question/topic. So what if the moderator is wrong in the fact checking? Remember Candy Crowley? She was incorrect in fact checking Romney. It just becomes a whole nother ball of wax. Let the candidates fact check themselves and let the news media fact check after the debate is over.

chezball · 09-26-2016, 05:22 PM

Mexico received more than $24.4 billion in remittances in 2014 from immigrants living in the United States, which makes up about two percent of the Mexican GDP, according to World Bank data. Losing that money could devastate the country's economy.
Maybe he got the M and B mixed up.

chezball · 09-26-2016, 05:25 PM

Omarosa just lit up Chris Hayes on msnbc, did anyone see it?

jarrodsalas · 09-26-2016, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by chezball

Omarosa just lit up Chris Hayes on msnbc, did anyone see it?

Just watched it. Not surprised. Good for her.

View Poll Results: 2016 Election
Hillary Clinton	81	19.19%
Donald Trump	188	44.55%
Neither	153	36.26%
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09-26-2016, 04:11 PM	#6466
TheHeel Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 16,202	In between grilling and other life nonsense, I was only able to read the first section. ClarkA - you might be interested in this... Grading the Presidential Candidates on Science - Scientific American __________________ Be All You Can Be - https://www.goarmy.com 48,230, 52,879, 40,400, 4,780 Pending Deals:

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09-26-2016, 04:06 PM	#6461
Astros19 Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 5,994	While the internet has been in part a blessing, it sucks that anyone at any given time can link articles to support their argument. It doesn't matter which side you're on, there's always an internet site that easily found to support your statement. That's why I usually dismiss any links in general from message boards.

09-26-2016, 05:22 PM	#6473
chezball Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: North East Beatoff USA Posts: 21,686 jabber	Mexico received more than $24.4 billion in remittances in 2014 from immigrants living in the United States, which makes up about two percent of the Mexican GDP, according to World Bank data. Losing that money could devastate the country's economy. Maybe he got the M and B mixed up.

09-26-2016, 05:25 PM	#6474
chezball Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: North East Beatoff USA Posts: 21,686 jabber	Omarosa just lit up Chris Hayes on msnbc, did anyone see it?