2016 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - All Politics & Dumb Opinions Here

[VeedonFleece]

Originally Posted by Astros19

I don't care that those outside the U.S. post here in this thread.
Hell, some of you are funny.
With that said, if they don't live in the U.S. I really don't care what they say either.
No offense intended, but if one doesn't live here and experience what's happening here, I don't put a lot of stock in their opinions.

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No offence taken. I respect your right to consider my opinion worthless!

[VeedonFleece]

Originally Posted by Astros19

But your reply was so much more thought out.

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What did you expect me to say? His post was contemptible and I treated it with the disdain it deserved.

I could've been a lot harsher.

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by houdini

This is not the place to increase your post count - nor is it the place for insults.

I have no problem suspending anyone until after the election.

If you can't post civilly, stay out until you grow up.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by VeedonFleece

No offence taken. I respect your right to consider my opinion worthless!

For the record I don't believe your opinions are worthless at all.
Of course I have a caveat, when it comes to things that happen in the country I live in and you don't, I honestly don't put much stock in it.
That's not meant as a slam at all.
I just believe it's difficult to judge what you think is happening in a place you don't live in and experience, on a regular basis.

As far as the blow things up comment made from a previous poster, sure he was sarcastic, but it's not that far out of the realm.

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[trixstar]

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[VeedonFleece]

Originally Posted by Astros19

For the record I don't believe your opinions are worthless at all.
Of course I have a caveat, when it comes to things that happen in the country I live in and you don't, I honestly don't put much stock in it.
That's not meant as a slam at all.
I just believe it's difficult to judge what you think is happening in a place you don't live in and experience, on a regular basis.

As far as the blow things up comment made from a previous poster, sure he was sarcastic, but it's not that far out of the realm.

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Tbf I largely do refrain from judging what goes on over there. I mean, I do think your gun laws are crazy, and your law enforcement sometimes seems a little trigger-happy but I generally keep my mouth shut about such issues. (Indeed I'd rarely posted in this entire section until recently.)

Also, I'm genuinely not offended if you or anyone else really does consider my opinion worthless. The feeling is often mutual! That said, my two daughters both have US passports and social security numbers (there, I've revealed something about myself!) so it's not like I don't have a vested interest.

[ninjacookies]

I'm not a Hillary supporter nor will be voting for her come November, but I think it's humorous how anyone voting for Trump believes even half of his reform policies have a chance of coming to fruition when a great number of the GOP's in office refuse to align themselves with him or his ideologies. I don't ever recall a nominee being this alienated from his own political party.

[Clarka3]

Originally Posted by houdini

If you have to make that many posts in a row and can't figure out multi-quote, this is not the place for you to be posting.

i found that annoying too. thanks for the save.

[jarrodsalas]

Originally Posted by Clarka3

i found that annoying too. thanks for the save.

Please excuse me if I am overlooking it as I am on some crown and coke at the moment but did his posts get deleted? I found them more productive than "nice hit" "great job" "congrats".

[VeedonFleece]

He had a bunch deleted, maybe 6 or 7. I quoted one and made reference to another. I think it was more for the consecutive multi-posting than the actual content of the posts but either way it was enough to incur someone's wrath.

'Great job' by the mods imo!

[Clarka3]

Originally Posted by jarrodsalas

Please excuse me if I am overlooking it as I am on some crown and coke at the moment but did his posts get deleted? I found them more productive than "nice hit" "great job" "congrats".

he's done it previously in this thread. he quotes one, responds to it, quotes another, responds in another post, etc.


there were times he had 8 or so posts in a row.

[jarrodsalas]

Originally Posted by Clarka3

he's done it previously in this thread. he quotes one, responds to it, quotes another, responds in another post, etc.


there were times he had 8 or so posts in a row.

My grandfather is 80 and he probably would have done the same thing. He struggles to respond to email. I felt like NoleinJax was probably an older gentleman based on his opinions and style. To censor his responses was a little too much IMO. Mods got to do what they got to do though. I mean...we have threads titled first person with the 8 millionth post in this thread wins...oh well.

[timber09]

Originally Posted by Astros19

The notion that conservatives don't care about the less fortunate is a myth.
I believe studies have shown conservatives are actually more charitable than others.
The main difference is that conservatives are more concerned as to what/who their taken tax dollars are being spent on.
I have no problem spending money on good causes.
I do have a problem spending money on those who choose an unsustainable lifestyle.
I see it this way, if every dollar that was spent on those who milk the system (s) was actually spent on those who are doing there best to survive there would actually be a chance said people could indeed work their way out of poverty.
There are too many who choose to do things like claim a disability but often times work for cash under the table and not pay taxes, thus screwing others twice over.
Or those that are capable of working but find it much more convenient to not work and still collect a check.
What's so wrong with wanting to hold those folks accountable?
The anger directed towards people like myself is misguided, that anger should be directed to those who choose to take money from those who actually need it.
People who are living in poverty should be upset with the moochers more so than the rest of us who are actually working our asses off to take care of our own and also helping those in need.
We need to quit being enablers.

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I truly believe that most conservatives feel this way - or at least convince themselves that they do. The major problem is that the conservative politicians love to sling this rhetoric but are no better at spending tax dollars than their liberal counterparts. For some reason the party that loves to talk about how responsible they are with money really is the exact same wolf if different wool.

The real interesting part about the 2016 election cycle is how true fiscal conservatives bring themselves to vote for Trump. Trump has released very few actual plans and those that he has are ridiculously expensive - expanding our military, building/maintaining a wall, and guaranteed maternity leave to name a few. So far the only real insight into how is going to pay for these is to reduce taxes with significant tax reform.

The Tax Policy Center doesn't have favorable estimates for what the Trump plan will do to the economy or the status of the US Debt - which of course makes them ripe for conspiracy theory and liberal bias according to Fox News.

[quackhead]

Originally Posted by VeedonFleece

When you put it like that, it makes you wonder why even a refugee would want to live there.

Your 'cool story bro' comment makes you look big and clever though. Chapeau!

Edit: 90 million unemployed, huh?

Thanks, but I don't want your hat.

The economy sucks here. Is that something you can understand? If the economy was thriving and the majority of Americans were employed and making a decent living, and Syria wasn't harboring (or is it harbouring in the UK?) terrorists, then I would say sure, come on over. I do feel bad for the Syrians who really do need help, but the terrorists have ruined it for them and everyone else in the world.

[Clarka3]

at this point- what would actually get me to seriously consider Trump would be if he released his tax returns for the past decade or so, and they were all on the up and up.

[Clarka3]

Originally Posted by quackhead

Thanks, but I don't want your hat.

The economy sucks here. Is that something you can understand? If the economy was thriving and the majority of Americans were employed and making a decent living, and Syria wasn't harboring (or is it harbouring in the UK?) terrorists, then I would say sure, come on over. I do feel bad for the Syrians who really do need help, but the terrorists have ruined it for them and everyone else in the world.

i don't think the economy sucks as much as people are led to believe.

just that the profits are all ending up at the top rather than being distributed to the middle and lower class.

[bigzig]

Originally Posted by Clarka3

i don't think the economy sucks as much as people are led to believe.

just that the profits are all ending up at the top rather than being distributed to the middle and lower class.

[jarrodsalas]

Originally Posted by Clarka3

i don't think the economy sucks as much as people are led to believe.

just that the profits are all ending up at the top rather than being distributed to the middle and lower class.

...and some of that goes in to the Clinton's pockets.

[Onions]

Originally Posted by timber09

I truly believe that most conservatives feel this way - or at least convince themselves that they do. The major problem is that the conservative politicians love to sling this rhetoric but are no better at spending tax dollars than their liberal counterparts. For some reason the party that loves to talk about how responsible they are with money really is the exact same wolf if different...

Just FYI, the Republican Party is not currently (and hasn't been for some time) being run by conservative politicians.

[timber09]

Originally Posted by Onions

Just FYI, the Republican Party is not currently (and hasn't been for some time) being run by conservative politicians.

Exactly the point I was trying to make (you summarized much better than I did).

The real question now is...who is running the Republican Party?

I lean left but I am far from an across the board democrat voter and mentioned to my very conservative buddy that the demise of the Republican Party is a true disservice to the American people. Many of us hate the two party system but if both parties are running in a healthy manner then checks and balances are in place - likely no one comes out feeling like the winner in any bill/measure which means it's probably a damn good piece of legislation.

Their have always been factions within each party but it seems to have gotten much more aggressive in the Republican Party over the past ten years.

[jlzinck]

Originally Posted by Clarka3

at this point- what would actually get me to seriously consider Trump would be if he released his tax returns for the past decade or so, and they were all on the up and up.

You would never SERIOUSLY consider voting for him.

Your friends would have you tarred and feathered

[trixstar]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nl_wonk&wpmm=1

[TheHeel]

Some more inflammatory rhetoric from Trump.

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[ILOVEBEER]

[Astros19]

Tastless as all get out, but still funny as hell.





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