Rolling 2016 Bowman Chrome Autograph Checklist Thread - Page 13

Jaypers · 09-06-2016, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueNE_09

So who's pumped for 2016 Bowman Draft?

For Red Sox I would be excited to obviously see Groome and Dalbec but also wouldn't mind seeing Ockimey sneak in there (2014). Probably Chatham too.

Not in this product. Maybe 2017 Bowman. It's all current draft picks here.

houdini · 09-06-2016, 12:15 PM

My math may not be perfect... I should've just used a spreadsheet but I am stupid.

valleyofsun · 09-06-2016, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by houdini

Hobby boxes

2 mini boxes (6 packs) per master box, 12 packs per master box, 12 boxes per case

Refractors are numbered to /499.

2 autos - 1 per mini box

Odds per pack (12 packs per box/12 boxes per case):

base

ref 1:10
purple 20
blue 34
green 51
gold 100
orange 199
red 993
super 4982
plate 1239

prospect

ref 1:34
purple 67
blue 111
green 51
gold 331
orange 199
red 3310
super 16319
plate 4116

scout update

insert 3
blue 441
gold 1322
orange 2644
super 67607
auto 543
gold auto 2152
super auto 118313

afl insert 6 - all chrome
blue 166
gold 496
orange 993
super 24908
auto 416
gold auto 1388
super auto 47325

afl mvp
short print 1981
short print auto 9659

out of the gate - chrome and "look very sharp"
insert 12
blue 331
gold 993
orange 1981
super 47325

ref that never were

insert 331
orange 6573
super 157750
auto 2181
super auto 236615

rookie auto 174
ref 155
blue 480
green 727
gold 1439
orange 1294
red 14341
super 67607
plate 18202

prospect auto 11
ref 42
purple 83
blue 139
green 208
orange 1294
orange shimmer 4780
red 4116
red shimmer 4780
super 20577
plate 5568

prime auto 432
green 1088
gold 2152
orange 1948
super 118313
aflac 1083

afl relic 625
orange 1101
super 26292
auto 2752
super auto 67607

In this example box:

mini box 1 - auto, scouts ref x2, afl insert, green ref /99
mini box 2 - orange auto /25, scouts ref x2, ootg insert, purple ref /250, vet ref /499

So no gold prospect autos in hobby?

Reverend Ghost · 09-06-2016, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by valleyofsun

So no gold prospect autos in hobby?

Right. I think they announced that a while back but I could be wrong.

jrinne17 · 09-06-2016, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaypers

He was drafted this year, so the earliest you will see him is in Draft.

That's right this is just the Bowman Chrome, Draft probably wont be out until December.

Jaypers · 09-06-2016, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reverend Ghost

Right. I think they announced that a while back but I could be wrong.

You're correct, it was announced on the initial solicitations.

TrueNE_09 · 09-06-2016, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaypers

Not in this product. Maybe 2017 Bowman. It's all current draft picks here.

Makes sense....wasn't sure if it was all current year.

houdini · 09-06-2016, 12:40 PM

Hobby boxes

rookie autos per case by odds - 2.49
prospect autos per case by odds - 20.22
rookie & prospect color autos per case by odds - 4.71
insert autos per case by odds - 1.39

base

ref 1:10 - 14.4
purple 20 - 7.2
blue 34 - 4.24
green 51 - 2.82
gold 100 - 1.44
orange 199 - 0.72
red 993 - 0.15
super 4982 - 0.03
plate 1239 - 0.12

prospect

ref 1:34 - 4.24
purple 67 - 2.15
blue 111 - 1.30
green 51 - 2.82
gold 331 - 0.44
orange 199 - 0.73
red 3310 - 0.04
super 16319 - 0.01
plate 4116 - 0.03

scout update

insert 3
blue 441
gold 1322
orange 2644
super 67607
auto 543 - 0.27
gold auto 2152 - 0.07
super auto 118313

afl insert 6 - all chrome
blue 166
gold 496
orange 993
super 24908
auto 416 - 0.35
gold auto 1388 - 0.10
super auto 47325

afl mvp
short print 1981
short print auto 9659 - 0.01

out of the gate - chrome and "look very sharp"
insert 12
blue 331
gold 993
orange 1981
super 47325

ref that never were

insert 331
orange 6573
super 157750
auto 2181 - 0.07
super auto 236615

rookie auto 174 - 0.83
ref 155 - 0.93
blue 480 - 0.30
green 727 - 0.20
gold 1439 - 0.10
orange 1294 - 0.11
red 14341 - 0.01
super 67607
plate 18202 - 0.01

prospect auto 11 - 13.1
ref 42 - 3.43
purple 83 - 1.73
blue 139 - 1.04
green 208 - 0.69
orange 372 - 0.39
orange shimmer 4780 - 0.03
red 4116 - 0.03
red shimmer 4780 - 0.03
super 20577
plate 5568 - 0.03

prime auto 432 - 0.33
green 1088 - 0.13
gold 2152 - 0.07
orange 1948 - 0.07
super 118313

aflac 1083 - 0.13

afl relic 625 - 0.23
orange 1101 - 0.13
super 26292
auto 2752 - 0.05
super auto 67607

NickM · 09-06-2016, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaypers

Not in this product. Maybe 2017 Bowman. It's all current draft picks here.

They put Devers and Jimenez into 14 Draft as Top Prospects cards (and Lara and Leyba made 15 Draft despite being past international signers with no prior cards). They could do something similar this year with international signers.

It's Topps. Other than overproduce, I'm not even sure they know what they'll be doing from set to set.

Jaypers · 09-06-2016, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickM

They put Devers and Jimenez into 14 Draft as Top Prospects cards (and Lara and Leyba made 15 Draft despite being past international signers with no prior cards). They could do something similar this year with international signers.

It's Topps. Other than overproduce, I'm not even sure they know what they'll be doing from set to set.

Was referring to autos.

houdini · 09-06-2016, 02:31 PM

WalterAZ31 · 09-06-2016, 02:34 PM

ahhhhh, nothing like magically getting a product early

Diem926 · 09-06-2016, 02:38 PM

Someone already pulled the Tatis superfractor auto on facebook

Jaypers · 09-06-2016, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houdini

Hobby boxes

prospect auto
orange 1294 - 0.11

According to the scan above, the odds of Orange autos in Hobby are 1:372.

houdini · 09-06-2016, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaypers

According to the scan above, the odds of Orange autos in Hobby are 1:372.

congrats

Jaypers · 09-06-2016, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houdini

congrats

Not a problem. Thought 1:1294 seemed awfully high.

Jaypers · 09-06-2016, 02:54 PM

As expected, the Maeda Rookie Autos are likely redemptions - a Gold Auto is up.

Jaypers · 09-06-2016, 02:55 PM

Tyrell Jenkins prospect auto is also a redemption. Base is up.

Jaypers · 09-06-2016, 05:45 PM

Antonio Santillan a redemption.

dchurg · 09-06-2016, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaypers

Tyrell Jenkins prospect auto is also a redemption. Base is up.

live one is up as well....

NickM · 09-06-2016, 06:53 PM

Ratios of base to refractor autos are different in hobby and vending, but we're still talking about at least 2K base autos per non-SP player (I expect there will be some SPs).

That's more base autos than '16 Bowman, which had about 1700 per.

phil · 09-06-2016, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaypers

According to the scan above, the odds of Orange autos in Hobby are 1:372.

would be 3681 hobby cases

base/prospect orange 1:199 = 3455 hobby cases

seems like that is down from previous years, but it won't matter

phil · 09-06-2016, 07:21 PM

one way or the other it looks like around 7500 combined cases

probably in the neighborhood of 3500 Hobby 4000 Vending

so not really down much

tchronis24 · 09-06-2016, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil

one way or the other it looks like around 7500 combined cases

probably in the neighborhood of 3500 Hobby 4000 Vending

so not really down much

Sorry for my ignorance but are the vending cases retail or something else?

Jaypers · 09-06-2016, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tchronis24

Sorry for my ignorance but are the vending cases retail or something else?

They're a reconfigured version of Jumbo. Not retail.

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houdini member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 81,458	Hobby boxes rookie autos per case by odds - 2.49 prospect autos per case by odds - 20.22 rookie & prospect color autos per case by odds - 4.71 insert autos per case by odds - 1.39 base ref 1:10 - 14.4 purple 20 - 7.2 blue 34 - 4.24 green 51 - 2.82 gold 100 - 1.44 orange 199 - 0.72 red 993 - 0.15 super 4982 - 0.03 plate 1239 - 0.12 prospect ref 1:34 - 4.24 purple 67 - 2.15 blue 111 - 1.30 green 51 - 2.82 gold 331 - 0.44 orange 199 - 0.73 red 3310 - 0.04 super 16319 - 0.01 plate 4116 - 0.03 scout update insert 3 blue 441 gold 1322 orange 2644 super 67607 auto 543 - 0.27 gold auto 2152 - 0.07 super auto 118313 afl insert 6 - all chrome blue 166 gold 496 orange 993 super 24908 auto 416 - 0.35 gold auto 1388 - 0.10 super auto 47325 afl mvp short print 1981 short print auto 9659 - 0.01 out of the gate - chrome and "look very sharp" insert 12 blue 331 gold 993 orange 1981 super 47325 ref that never were insert 331 orange 6573 super 157750 auto 2181 - 0.07 super auto 236615 rookie auto 174 - 0.83 ref 155 - 0.93 blue 480 - 0.30 green 727 - 0.20 gold 1439 - 0.10 orange 1294 - 0.11 red 14341 - 0.01 super 67607 plate 18202 - 0.01 prospect auto 11 - 13.1 ref 42 - 3.43 purple 83 - 1.73 blue 139 - 1.04 green 208 - 0.69 orange 372 - 0.39 orange shimmer 4780 - 0.03 red 4116 - 0.03 red shimmer 4780 - 0.03 super 20577 plate 5568 - 0.03 prime auto 432 - 0.33 green 1088 - 0.13 gold 2152 - 0.07 orange 1948 - 0.07 super 118313 aflac 1083 - 0.13 afl relic 625 - 0.23 orange 1101 - 0.13 super 26292 auto 2752 - 0.05 super auto 67607 __________________ Descanse mi princesita 9/20/00-4/16/15 Last edited by houdini; 09-06-2016 at 02:47 PM. Reason: corrected

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NickM Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 12,353	Ratios of base to refractor autos are different in hobby and vending, but we're still talking about at least 2K base autos per non-SP player (I expect there will be some SPs). That's more base autos than '16 Bowman, which had about 1700 per. __________________ 1st superfractor hit by RK Collectibles. 2014 Bowman Chrome Mini BB Chris Kohler. "What do we want?" "Time travel." "And when do we want it?" "It's irrelevant."

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phil Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 8,795	one way or the other it looks like around 7500 combined cases probably in the neighborhood of 3500 Hobby 4000 Vending so not really down much