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Old 07-31-2016, 01:12 PM   #3451
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What speaks volumes for Hillary is Michele and Barack Obama vouching for her as a person and leader. I'll take their word any day in regards to her qualifications. Trump is a thin skinned pansy. How anyone could even consider voting for him is pretty scary. He knows nothing about foreign affairs, heck today he said Russia will not go in to Ukraine, lol. They already are in Ukraine. He jokes about Russians committing espionage in America to attack his political opponent. I mean the dude is clearly the least prepared candidate to lead this great nation in the history of America. There is a reason he might be the first Republican candidate in 60 years to lose the white college educated vote. Smart people aren't buying what he's selling. They can see just how unprepared he is. It's very scary that there are this many people in America that could believe a wannabe dictator like Comrade Trump.

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Old 07-31-2016, 01:16 PM   #3452
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Funny how Barry and Michelle's opinions took a 180 from 2008.
Could it be a matter of party over principles?
Of course that's going by the assumption one has principles.
As far as foreign policy, do you seriously believe things are better now than they were 8 years ago?
If so, then there is really no reason to continue this discussion with you.
Talk about rose colored glasses.
Could it be a matter of getting to know someone you didn't personally know before? Talk about being cynical.
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Old 07-31-2016, 01:18 PM   #3453
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I just felt like mocking a couple of posters on here. Too bad you couldn't see that.
Self-mockery IS a form of mocking and you ARE a member here.

Whadya know? One of your posts finally passed the smell test.
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Old 07-31-2016, 01:20 PM   #3454
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Hillary or Bernie would have beaten any of the 17 GOP candidates this year in the general election, and either would make a better President than any of those Republicans.

That the 16 also-rans couldn't even beat Trump says it all about them. It was simply the worst GOP field in history. The "winner" of it is the proof. By the way, were Trump at the top of my party's ticket, I'd avoid the use of the words "loony" and "blah" entirely.

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Your first paragraph is nothing but opinion, not fact.
You do realize that right?
Not too mention that Sanders never had a chance against the crooked DNC.
I won't even disagree with your choice of words to use or not to use concerning Trump, with one caveat, you believe the same with Hillary and using words like honesty, integrity and principles.

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Old 07-31-2016, 01:22 PM   #3455
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Could it be a matter of getting to know someone you didn't personally know before? Talk about being cynical.
Talk about being gullible.

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Old 07-31-2016, 01:24 PM   #3456
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What amazes me the most about this election is that Trump, with all his warts and scars, is able to stay competitive with Hillary.
The fact that it's still competitive speaks volumes to just how lousy the Democratic nominee is.

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How is it competitive if voting hasn't even started? And what is the alternative, one person bowing out before the voting starts? Or are you talking about polls? The many, many polls that don't mean anything in the end.
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Old 07-31-2016, 01:24 PM   #3457
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You lost me at the Obama's
Voted for him once and then smartened up
after the epic failures that continue 4 years later
"Epic failures". Lmao, talk about over dramatization. I'll listen to Obama, he seems more credible than you, no offense.
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Old 07-31-2016, 01:28 PM   #3458
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It can mean that I read up on things. It means my wife sees the indigent population at the medical facility where she is employed.

You see, they discuss it openly and boast about it. There is no shame at all.

I pay my taxes and I'm not happy where that money goes in most cases.
Methinks thou doth protest too mightily. Don't be ashamed. It's a hand-up, not a handout.

I'd rather see that taxpayer money go to poor people who use it to eat than to have it cover one lousy cost-plus bolt in a military aircraft boondoggle that ends up in a plane unable to fly. At least we agree our tax dollars could be better spent.

Anyway, I'm just giving you a hard time, CD7. I'm a little surprised (and disappointed) I'm not on your ignore list yet.
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Old 07-31-2016, 01:28 PM   #3459
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"Epic failures". Lmao, talk about over dramatization. I'll listen to Obama, he seems more credible than you, no offense.
Maybe half of America is in chains and living in poverty.
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Old 07-31-2016, 01:30 PM   #3460
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"Epic failures". Lmao, talk about over dramatization. I'll listen to Obama, he seems more credible than you, no offense.
Keep drinking the Kool-Aid junior
No offense
Lol credible = ALL politicians lie

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Old 07-31-2016, 01:32 PM   #3461
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Which would make more: a Kool Aid or Hateraid stand? It's supposed to be really hot this week.
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Old 07-31-2016, 01:32 PM   #3462
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Funny how Barry and Michelle's opinions took a 180 from 2008.
Could it be a matter of party over principles?
Of course that's going by the assumption one has principles.
As far as foreign policy, do you seriously believe things are better now than they were 8 years ago?
If so, then there is really no reason to continue this discussion with you.
Talk about rose colored glasses.

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They were competitors then. They made up, got to know each other, and the Obama's changed their opinion. I'll take their judgement any day over someone that is willing to vote for Trump, lol. That's like having a beard comb over, it just shows your decision making abilities should be questioned.

And yes, things are better than they were 8 years ago. Maybe if you live in the Middle East they're not, but in America it is much better. But overall, we have great relations throughout the world and our allies have liked Obama's administration.
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Old 07-31-2016, 01:33 PM   #3463
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Methinks thou doth protest too mightily. Don't be ashamed. It's a hand-up, not a handout.

I'd rather see that taxpayer money go to poor people who use it to eat than to have it cover one lousy cost-plus bolt in a military aircraft boondoggle that ends up in a plane unable to fly. At least we agree our tax dollars could be better spent.

Anyway, I'm just giving you a hard time, CD7. I'm a little surprised (and disappointed) I'm not on your ignore list yet.
There isn't a single member on this site I've added to ignore since I joined 9 years ago. I've never seen the point of it.
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Old 07-31-2016, 01:33 PM   #3464
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Your first paragraph is nothing but opinion, not fact.
You do realize that right?
Not too mention that Sanders never had a chance against the crooked DNC.
I won't even disagree with your choice of words to use or not to use concerning Trump, with one caveat, you believe the same with Hillary and using words like honesty, integrity and principles.

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It can't be proven one way or the other, so sure, that's opinion.
All we have left is Hillary vs. Donald. That's a fact.
And like Bernie Sanders, I'm for Hillary.
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Old 07-31-2016, 01:35 PM   #3465
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It can't be proven one way or the other, so sure, that's opinion.
All we have left is Hillary vs. Donald. That's a fact.
And like Bernie Sanders, I'm for Hillary.
And to think, they didn't even have to bribe you.

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Old 07-31-2016, 01:36 PM   #3466
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They were competitors then. They made up, got to know each other, and the Obama's changed their opinion. I'll take their judgement any day over someone that is willing to vote for Trump, lol. That's like having a beard comb over, it just shows your decision making abilities should be questioned.

And yes, things are better than they were 8 years ago. Maybe if you live in the Middle East they're not, but in America it is much better. But overall, we have great relations throughout the world and our allies have liked Obama's administration.
Heres a chance to prove your point. List some things that are better now...

Is home ownership up? Household income? Infrastructure better? Less people on food stamps? Violent crime down?
Race relations better? National deficit cut? Did insurance costs go down as promised? Did people get to keep their insurance as promised?

Let us know
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Old 07-31-2016, 01:37 PM   #3467
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There isn't a single member on this site I've added to ignore since I joined 9 years ago. I've never seen the point of it.
I don't even know how to do it, although I wouldn't even if I knew how. I feel the same as you about it. I thought I saw you asking someone the other day not to quote the posts of someone you didn't like, so that way you wouldn't have to see their original posts in the quote. I took that to mean you had that person on ignore. I apologize if I was wrong on that.

Now will you vote for Hillary?
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Old 07-31-2016, 01:38 PM   #3468
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They were competitors then. They made up, got to know each other, and the Obama's changed their opinion. I'll take their judgement any day over someone that is willing to vote for Trump, lol. That's like having a beard comb over, it just shows your decision making abilities should be questioned.

And yes, things are better than they were 8 years ago. Maybe if you live in the Middle East they're not, but in America it is much better. But overall, we have great relations throughout the world and our allies have liked Obama's administration.
Racial tensions at the highest levels we've seen in decades.
Police officers being hunted down. More people on foodstamps than ever before.
More debt than anyone could have ever imagined.
Anemic economy with little to no growth.
More people not working than ever before.
Yea, we're so much better off.
Wow, just wow.

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And to think, they didn't even have to bribe you.

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Racial tensions at the highest levels we've seen in decades.
Yes, thanks to racists who don't like losing.
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I don't even know how to do it, although I wouldn't even if I knew how. I feel the same as you about it. I thought I saw you asking someone the other day not to quote the posts of someone you didn't like, so that way you wouldn't have to see their original posts in the quote. I took that to mean you had that person on ignore. I apologize if I was wrong on that.

Now will you vote for Hillary?
That's was another member who said that, wasn't me. I saw the post they made saying that as well. I actually thought to myself "with all the quotes, why even block anyone".
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Old 07-31-2016, 01:43 PM   #3472
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Racial tensions at the highest levels we've seen in decades.
Police officers being hunted down. More people on foodstamps than ever before.
More debt than anyone could have ever imagined.
Anemic economy with little to no growth.
More people not working than ever before.
Yea, we're so much better off.
Wow, just wow.

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More free food? Yep
Even more if I have more babies with no dad's in picture? Yep
Free abortions? Yep
Free housing? Yep
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Free phone so I can sell it to drug dealers and get a new one? Yep
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Yes, thanks to racists who don't like losing.
I'm guessing you're referring to our black and WHITE president.
Does it upset Dems that he's half white?
They always seem to conveniently forget that.


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Heres a chance to prove your point. List some things that are better now...

Is home ownership up? Household income? Infrastructure better? Less people on food stamps? Violent crime down?
Race relations better? National deficit cut? Did insurance costs go down as promised? Did people get to keep their insurance as promised?

Let us know
Home ownership - down
Household income - down
Infrastructure - worse

Republican Lead Obstructionist Congress - Least liked Congress in recorded American history. Can't fix infrastructure when the people who control the purse won't open it.

Violent Crime - down
Race Relations - subjective
National Deficit cut - Cut almost every year even though I wish it weren't

Insurance - Majority of people got to keep their insurance
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So would Trump be considered an undocumented politician?
Just curious.

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