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[natbornkiller]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

Bill wasn't the commander In Chief when he knocked down the twin towers and committed the largest act of terror against the US. EVER.




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Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden - CBS News

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by natbornkiller

bill missed him first

Bill left office in Jan 2001. Bill left warnings. Bush White House willfully ignored those warnings out of spite for predecessors.

September 11, 2001 is 100% on Bush's watch, and the aftermath is even worse for him considering the disastrous misadventures around the world he undertook in our name.

Drink more coffee, but do spill some on your keyboard.

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

You are right. However Bill had the opportunity to take him out before that. Twice.

And people had multiple chances to kill Hitler before WWII. hindsight is 20/20. Fact is what bush couldn't do in 7.5 years Obama did in his first term.

[Ray27Ray52]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

And people had multiple chances to kill Hitler before WWII. hindsight is 20/20. Fact is what bush couldn't do in 7.5 years Obama did in his first term.

I wasn't arguing that. I don't play the semantics game. You tried to make an irrelevant point and I countered with one as well.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by natbornkiller

Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden - CBS News

Blockbuster!
We should find out next if he'd go back in time and kill baby Hitler like Jeb said he would have.

[tacoma34]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

You are right. However Bill had the opportunity to take him out before that. Twice.

Hey wait, that doesn't fit the narrative, you keep that crap out of here!

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by natbornkiller

Bill Clinton: "I could have killed" Osama bin Laden - CBS News

So he didn't kill 300 innocent people to kill him? If he would've done that the news would be about him taking out 300 innocents to kill one person that may have been a problem.

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

I wasn't arguing that. I don't play the semantics game. You tried to make an irrelevant point and I countered with one as well.

My point was relevant, while yours was not. That's the difference. I guess that's the point I'm trying to make.

The comment that anyone else would've gotten him is wrong because another president couldn't do so in 7 1/2 years. That's a fact.

[Skipscards]

Let's change the subject. Bin Laden is old news. There's plenty of blame and praise to go around for all three of the last three Presidents regarding terrorism.

[tacoma34]

Why does Hitler's name get brought up everytime a liberal needs to make a point? It's right near the "get out of a debate by bringing up race" card.

[greentown]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

My point was relevant, while yours was not. That's the difference. I guess that's the point I'm trying to make.

The comment that anyone else would've gotten him is wrong because another president couldn't do so in 7 1/2 years. That's a fact.

It's also a fact that Obama didn't start the hunt from scratch. Hard to claim intelligence from before you took office.

[pgisback]

Timmey got on point when going after Trump. Can't believe a word that comes out of his mouth. A complete con artist who thrives off the dumb and naive.

[Ray27Ray52]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

My point was relevant, while yours was not. That's the difference. I guess that's the point I'm trying to make.

The comment that anyone else would've gotten him is wrong because another president couldn't do so in 7 1/2 years. That's a fact.

Bill Clinton having the opportunity to eliminate Bin Laden's attempted revolution in its infancy is less relevant than what you said? It's wonderful that others cannot use hind sight but you being the supreme know it all can at will.

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by tacoma34

Why does Hitler's name get brought up everytime a liberal needs to make a point? It's right near the "get out of a debate by bringing up race" card.

I could say moussalini also. Or any mass murderer. Does who is used really matter?

Clinton wouldn't kill 300 innocent people to take out 1 person that might do something horrible. Bush couldn't take him out after he did. Obama did take him out.

The comment was "it would've happened under anyone else". Sure most competent presidents would've gotten it done. I'll give ya that.

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by greentown

It's also a fact that Obama didn't start the hunt from scratch. Hard to claim intelligence from before you took office.

Please show me where I claimed Obama started from scratch.

That's like when my wife can't open the ketchup bottle and I do it and she says "I got it started." So what, if I wasn't here it would still be closed.

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

Bill Clinton having the opportunity to eliminate Bin Laden's attempted revolution in its infancy is less relevant than what you said? It's wonderful that others cannot use hind sight but you being the supreme know it all can at will.

Where did I use hindsight??????

[greentown]

Originally Posted by pgisback

Timmey got on point when going after Trump. Can't believe a word that comes out of his mouth. A complete con artist who thrives off the dumb and naive.

Says the genius who is unable to answer simple questions.

[greentown]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

Please show me where I claimed Obama started from scratch.

That's like when my wife can't open the ketchup bottle and I do it and she says "I got it started." So what, if I wasn't here it would still be closed.

So, if my team is winning a hard fought game, and I step in in the 9th inning I can say I won the game?

[Timmay]

Seal team 6 killed OBL than lost 22 members shortly after in a questionable mission. How could we lose more men in one mission than in the entire history of the Navy SEALS, and no one has been held accountable for it?

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by greentown

So, if my team is winning a hard fought game, and I step in in the 9th inning I can say I won the game?

Lol. Keep trying to spin it however you want. Facts - post 9/11 bin laden survived the bush administration. Bin laden did not survive the Obama administration.

None of us know how close or far they were from catching or killing bin laden when bush left office. We know how far they are now.

Love the spin job trying to go on here. It's ok to admit that Bush was a disaster. I'm sure you'll blame all of it on Clinton also.

To answer your question. If you hit the game winning shot you sure as hell can claim you won the game. Fact is you did. Your team worked hard and then you did your job to win it. The headline will read "Greentown wins game". Not "team Greentown set Greentown up to win a close game".


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[mike1498]

Originally Posted by pgisback

The Republican Party was never this disgraceful. Heck I liked GWB, McCain, and Romney. Not sure what happened to you guys. The fact educated flight is happening from the Repub party is not a surprise. They're smart enough to see what's going on.

Last time I checked, that isn't 60 years....

[pgisback]

Let's go Obama!!! Real class.

[preakness]

#megynkelly'slifematters

[Ray27Ray52]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

Where did I use hindsight??????

You did not. A combination of typing on my phone and my wife entering the room as I was just trying to complete a thought sabatoged any semblance of thought. My apologies.

My point does still stand however. The elimination of Bin Laden, and Clinton's failure to act on intelligence, are very relevant in this discussion.

[greentown]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

Lol. Keep trying to spin it however you want. Facts - post 9/11 bin laden survived the bush administration. Bin laden did not survive the Obama administration.

None of us know how close or far they were from catching or killing bin laden when bush left office. We know how far they are now.

Love the spin job trying to go on here. It's ok to admit that Bush was a disaster. I'm sure you'll blame all of it on Clinton also.

To answer your question. If you hit the game winning shot you sure as hell can claim you won the game. Fact is you did. Your team worked hard and then you did your job to win it. The headline will read "Greentown wins game". Not "team Greentown set Greentown up to win a close game".


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Ok, anything not praising Obama is spinning.