2016 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - All Politics & Dumb Opinions Here

[Davesportscards]

Oh nice, Illegal Immigrants allowed to speak at the DNC. Nice to know the Dems don't mind people breaking federal law.

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by Athey49

He supports Hillary over Trump. Pretty simple, don't see how that's selling out.

He is supporting someone who goes against the same "values" he stood for. A woman owned by Wall Street. A corrupt politician. His own party cheated against him, yet he supports her? That's the definition of a sellout. HIS OWN SUPPORTERS see it and booed him. Need I say more?

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by Nyfancam01

Sanders doing the RIGHT THING.
Respectful and looking at the BIG PICTURE! We all need a strong DEMOCRAT in office. He knows we all need to AVOID TRUMP. Literally NO experience there haha.

Just because he's being mature and respectful doesn't make him a "Sellout" or whatever all of the republican folks wanna say.... SMH. He is doing whatever he can to ensure our ALREADY GREAT country has a Democrat in charge

Do you feel a "strong" Democrat would need her own party to cheat for her? Would a "strong" Democrat offer to give appointments to the highest donor? That's a corrupt Democrat...the entire party.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by coltsnsox07

So the person Bernie said was nothing but corrupt and the poster woman for special interest politics is now okay with him....

Haha, I would simply love to see you produce those non-existent quotes you just made up.

[Nyfancam01]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

Do you feel a "strong" Democrat would need her own party to cheat for her? Would a "strong" Democrat offer to give appointments to the highest donor? That's a corrupt Democrat...the entire party.

you republican voters will have the same exact EXCUSE after EXCUSE once she defeats trump right???

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Haha, I would simply love to see you produce those non-existent quotes you just made up.

Bernie Sanders: Clinton Backed by ?Powerful Special Interests?


Read about 5 paragraphs down. You will find the direct quote from Sanders about Hillary and the money behind her.

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by Nyfancam01

you republican voters will have the same exact EXCUSE after EXCUSE once she defeats trump right???

Are you going to answer my question?

[Nyfancam01]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

Are you going to answer my question?

I'm going to tell you that she is going to be a WONDERFUL president!!!!

Do not complain and cry around about rigged or blah blah blah whatever else you republicans will make up excuses about. It is annoying and sad. I honestly think she is going to win and win big.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

Do you feel a "strong" Democrat would need her own party to cheat for her? Would a "strong" Democrat offer to give appointments to the highest donor? That's a corrupt Democrat...the entire party.

What are you talking about?

The DNC has been operating under the idea either Democrat would win this year from the day Bernie started showing some muscle, even if he did so largely in the states he wasn't likely to win in the general election. From the start, Hillary had a lot more money, better support in crucial swing states, and was more fully vetted than Bernie, by the virtue of how very long she's been in the public eye. She also ended up with a lot more votes in the primary.

The DNC's job is ultimately to produce winners in the general election up and down the ticket with the success starting at the top. No one was cheating for anyone. This is just the dirty business of politics. It goes on constantly, on all sides, and at all times. I'm sure Bernie's staff wouldn't want you reading emails they thought were private either. Same for Trump, Cruz, etc.
Same for all of them. Maybe the RNC would tell us all their secrets if we asked them nicely, in the interest of fairplay. It's pretty clear they didn't want Trump to be the nominee, Trump has said so many times. What do you think their worst emails about him looked like. Not something they'd want people reading, least of all Trump.

You can't link any of this to Hillary, although you will try, over and over and over again. The crime here is that people had some Emails that were stolen and leaked. Investigate that one, Sherlock...

Beyond politics, I'd say when Emailing people no matter business or personal, it's a good idea to not say a whole lot that that you wouldn't be willing to say in a public forum like here or Facebook. If you can't defend it if called upon to, best to just say something you can. That is unfortunate as private business should be private, but as we've seen, there's not a lot that can't be hacked. Just assume everything you write, even stuff said in confidence, will likely be read by someone other than who you intended. Way o' the world stuff, there. I'm surprised more people haven't gotten used to it.

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by Nyfancam01

I'm going to tell you that she is going to be a WONDERFUL president!!!!

Do not complain and cry around about rigged or blah blah blah whatever else you republicans will make up excuses about. It is annoying and sad. I honestly think she is going to win and win big.

I'm not crying about her screwing Bernie over. I think Hillary will be MUCH easier to beat. In fact, just look at the most recent polls. A 2nd email scandal will now even turn away some of the most liberal voters. Though many lack ethics, a 2nd scandal may be too much to stomach.

[cruiserdaddy7]

[QUOTE=jdandns;11190240]What are you talking about?

The DNC has been operating under the idea either Democrat would win this year from the day Bernie started showing some muscle, even if he did so largely in the states he wasn't likely to win in the general election. From the start, Hillary had a lot more money, better support in crucial swing states, and was more fully vetted than Bernie, by the virtue of how very long she's been in the public eye. She also ended up with a lot more votes in the primary.

The DNC's job is ultimately to produce winners in the general election up and down the ticket with the success starting at the top. No one was cheating for anyone. This is just the dirty business of politics. It goes on constantly, on all sides, and at all times. I'm sure Bernie's staff wouldn't want you reading emails they thought were private either. Same for Trump, Cruz, etc.
Same for all of them. Maybe the RNC would tell us all their secrets if we asked them nicely, in the interest of fairplay. It's pretty clear they didn't want Trump to be the nominee, Trump has said so many times. What do you think their worst emails about him looked like. Not something they'd want people reading, least of all Trump.

You can't link any of this to Hillary, although you will try, over and over and over again. The crime here is that people had some Emails that were stolen and leaked. Investigate that one, Sherlock...

Beyond politics, I'd say when Emailing people no matter business or personal, it's a good idea to not say a whole lot that that you wouldn't be willing to say in a public forum like here or Facebook. If you can't defend it if called upon to, best to just say something you can. That is unfortunate as private business should be private, but as we've seen, there's not a lot that can't be hacked. Just assume everything you write, even stuff said in confidence, will likely be read by someone other than who you intended. Way o' the world stuff, there. I'm surprised more people haven't gotten used to it.[/QUOTE]

You should tell this to your friend Hillary. You would think H and her cronies would know this by now. Zebras don't change their stripes though. Still corrupt as ever.

[Anderdale]

Originally Posted by Davesportscards

Oh nice, Illegal Immigrants allowed to speak at the DNC. Nice to know the Dems don't mind people breaking federal law.

You know, you are one of my favorite people

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

Bernie Sanders: Clinton Backed by ?Powerful Special Interests?


Read about 5 paragraphs down. You will find the direct quote from Sanders about Hillary and the money behind her.

Ah, Brietbart, the "Weekly World News" of the Internet. It's like that beloved old supermarket tabloid but with every column written by Ed Anger.

At any rate, I read the entire piece and there is no direct Sanders quote within the same universe as coltsnsox07's florid prose indicating Bernie had said that Hillary was "nothing but corrupt and the poster woman for special interest politics."

The paragraph you refer to on his behalf finds Sanders decrying a corrupt campaign finance system (thanks in large part to the Republicans on the Supreme Court) that allows Clinton (among others, even Bernie himself had it come to it and he'd won the nomination) to raise money through the use of PACs, essentially allowing the super wealthy inordinate influence over our elections. Even so, and despite her having benefited from it, Hillary has fully embraced Bernie's view on that issue and the two agreed reform of the system is needed to the point where it is in the official party Platform, the most Progressive one ever written. Campaign finance reform is among Hillary's first promises, and Bernie supporters will rightly not let her forget that.

[jdandns]

[QUOTE=cruiserdaddy7;11190243]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Beyond politics, I'd say when Emailing people no matter business or personal, it's a good idea to not say a whole lot that that you wouldn't be willing to say in a public forum like here or Facebook. If you can't defend it if called upon to, best to just say something you can. That is unfortunate as private business should be private, but as we've seen, there's not a lot that can't be hacked. Just assume everything you write, even stuff said in confidence, will likely be read by someone other than who you intended. Way o' the world stuff, there. I'm surprised more people haven't gotten used to it.[/QUOTE]

You should tell this to your friend Hillary. You would think H and her cronies would know this by now. Zebras don't change their stripes though. Still corrupt as ever.

We can debate the existence/level of corruption, but on the privacy issue, I'm pretty sure Hillary Clinton knows that now, and the DNC, even more so. Some people just lost some pretty cushy jobs over this. Maybe the next batch will be smarter.

We should just assume anything we write is for public consumption, and hold ourselves to the higher standard we should have never abandoned in the first place. I guess the lesson here is that if you want to say something effed up to someone and can't figure out an artful way to say it, say it in person, or don't say it at all (if you have anything to lose, that is. If not, go nuts.)

[Addison]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

He is supporting someone who goes against the same "values" he stood for. A woman owned by Wall Street. A corrupt politician. His own party cheated against him, yet he supports her? That's the definition of a sellout. HIS OWN SUPPORTERS see it and booed him. Need I say more?

How would you define Trump's Evangelical and the religious right support? They are backing a candidate that's been in more strip clubs than churches in his life.

2 Corinthians walk into a bar...

[jrinne17]

Originally Posted by Nyfancam01

you republican voters will have the same exact EXCUSE after EXCUSE once she defeats trump right???

The one thing I look forward to if she wins is she will have no other President to blame but her party when things continue to fall apart. I certainly don't want Trump as our President and I think Hillary is by far the worst politician of all time. Even my friends who are Liberals all refuse to vote for her because of her sliminess, but then again my friends are all pretty intelligent and can clearly see the snake in her. I'm sorry you cant see that and I'm certainly sorry you think so highly of her. You are part of the problem, not the solution.

[ssbledsoe]

Hey Dems, is American exceptionalism real or no?

[chipmaster]

Originally Posted by Addison

How would you define Trump's Evangelical and the religious right support? They are backing a candidate that's been in more strip clubs than churches in his life.

2 Corinthians walk into a bar...

He was merely trying to pump some more money into the economy and take care of those poor dears shakin' their money makers.

An honorable thing in life - take care of your fellow (wo)man

[chipmaster]

Originally Posted by ssbledsoe

Hey Dems, is American exceptionalism real or no?

I don't know but Paul Simon sounded like dogshit last night

[rman112]

Originally Posted by Nyfancam01

I'm going to tell you that she is going to be a WONDERFUL president!!!!

Do not complain and cry around about rigged or blah blah blah whatever else you republicans will make up excuses about. It is annoying and sad. I honestly think she is going to win and win big.

Have you watched Clinton Cash?

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by rman112

Have you watched Clinton Cash?

Is that just the adaptation of the book released last year? I just want to make sure it's not some Alex Jones type documentary (which he hasn't released one in years sadly, those were VERY entertaining).

Does the movie propagate the same "facts" that the author kept editing out of the online copies of the book over and over again?

[jrinne17]

Originally Posted by Nyfancam01

I'm going to tell you that she is going to be a WONDERFUL president!!!!

Do not complain and cry around about rigged or blah blah blah whatever else you republicans will make up excuses about. It is annoying and sad. I honestly think she is going to win and win big.

Sadly, I agree with you on this. The only reason she will win is because more than half of the Republicans in this country truly feel Donald Trump is not qualified to be President and probably will not show up to vote. I wish I could say the same for the Democrats in this country but as we have seen in the past they could care less about the moral integrity of their candidate.

[chipmaster]

cmon WikiLeaks

cmon WikiLeaks

cmon wikileaks

[rman112]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Is that just the adaptation of the book released last year? I just want to make sure it's not some Alex Jones type documentary (which he hasn't released one in years sadly, those were VERY entertaining).

Does the movie propagate the same "facts" that the author kept editing out of the online copies of the book over and over again?

I don't know much about the book. Alex Jones loves the sensationalist stuff. The video is not that.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by rman112

I don't know much about the book. Alex Jones loves the sensationalist stuff. The video is not that.

The book was pretty good. Nothing concrete that would hold up in court in terms of corruption, but mostly circumstantial evidence as well as at least pointing out "conflicts of interest".

I know presidents get paid big bucks for speeches after their term/terms in office, but the fact that Bill Clinton made something like 90% of his "big-money speeches" while Hillary was in the state department was interesting. Again, nothing that could stick and I'd have to look up specifics but I know the author had to go back and edit stuff MULTIPLE times because the book originally wasn't completely factual.