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[greentown]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Classic right wing garbage that speaks to their backwards notion of what they think is most important about a woman, and yet, they post it thinking it is funny.

Vs. left wing class that calls rape accusers floozies, bimbos, and trailer park trash.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by Timmay

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You should ask Hillary. She was the one who was forced to return $200,000 worth of furniture, china and artwork she stole from the White House when they moved out.

A viral graphic said that Hillary Clinton was forced to return about $200,000 worth of furniture, artwork and china that she had stolen from the White House. The statement contains several inaccuracies.

The Clintons returned about $48,000 in furniture, and they paid the government about $86,000 for other items. Any way you count it, the $200,000 figure is too high.

According to top ethics lawyers, it’s at least debatable -- and at worst hyperbolic -- to say the Clintons "stole" the items. A congressional investigation found poor tracking of ownership and final disposition of gifts, which makes it hard to speak definitively of wrongdoing. In fact, two items the Clintons returned were ultimately sent back to them. Finally, it’s worth making clear that the "force" they responded to was political pressure, not legal jeopardy.

Accusations of stealing are serious and require a high threshold of evidence, unmet by the charges in this over-the-top graphic. We rate the claim Mostly False.

Nice try. What other right wing BS would you like to throw out?

Here's one that is right:

Trump said, "While Hillary Clinton plans a massive, and I mean massive, tax increase, I have proposed the largest tax reduction of any candidate who has run for president this year, Democrat or Republican."

Clinton is indeed proposing a tax increase, though it can be described as "massive" for only the richest Americans. Meanwhile, Trump is correct that his tax cuts were the biggest of any 2016 candidate. We rate the claim Mostly True

Reading this, I can see why a healthy chunk of BO members are behind Trump. They'll FOR SURE fall into the richest tax bracket and are worried about Billary's tax plan. Need more money for those cases of Exquiste basketball and NT football.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by greentown

Vs. left wing class that calls rape accusers floozies, bimbos, and trailer park trash.

Proof? Or more hyperbole (aka the right wing's "truth").

[Addison]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Proof? Or more hyperbole (aka the right wing's "truth").

I saw it shared on Facebook. It must be true!

Donald Trump retweets Neo-Nazi propaganda so not surprising.

Like.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by Addison

I saw it shared on Facebook. It must be true!

Donald Trump retweets Neo-Nazi propaganda so not surprising.

Like.

This would just prove that more of rural America is getting Internet.

[greentown]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Proof? Or more hyperbole (aka the right wing's "truth").

James Carville: “If you drag a hundred-dollar bill through a trailer park, you never know what you’ll find”

Betsey Write coined "bimbo eruptions"

Taylor Branch notes recorded conversation with Bill Clinton in which he refered to Jones as a "floozy"

[jarrodsalas]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Haha, essentially posed glamour shots on the left side, and "bad moment" candid pix on the right side.

For "Wheel of Fortune", I'll take the team pictured on the left. Be fun to watch them using all their money to buy vowels they were already told there were none of. For "Jeopardy", however, I'll go with the team pictured on the right.

Classic right wing garbage that speaks to their backwards notion of what they think is most important about a woman, and yet, they post it thinking it is funny.

Calm down. I'm pretty sure you have tried to be humorous on multiple occasions in this thread.

[Timmay]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

A viral graphic said that Hillary Clinton was forced to return about $200,000 worth of furniture, artwork and china that she had stolen from the White House. The statement contains several inaccuracies.

The Clintons returned about $48,000 in furniture, and they paid the government about $86,000 for other items. Any way you count it, the $200,000 figure is too high.

According to top ethics lawyers, it’s at least debatable -- and at worst hyperbolic -- to say the Clintons "stole" the items. A congressional investigation found poor tracking of ownership and final disposition of gifts, which makes it hard to speak definitively of wrongdoing. In fact, two items the Clintons returned were ultimately sent back to them. Finally, it’s worth making clear that the "force" they responded to was political pressure, not legal jeopardy.

Accusations of stealing are serious and require a high threshold of evidence, unmet by the charges in this over-the-top graphic. We rate the claim Mostly False.

Nice try. What other right wing BS would you like to throw out?

Here's one that is right:

Trump said, "While Hillary Clinton plans a massive, and I mean massive, tax increase, I have proposed the largest tax reduction of any candidate who has run for president this year, Democrat or Republican."

Clinton is indeed proposing a tax increase, though it can be described as "massive" for only the richest Americans. Meanwhile, Trump is correct that his tax cuts were the biggest of any 2016 candidate. We rate the claim Mostly True

Reading this, I can see why a healthy chunk of BO members are behind Trump. They'll FOR SURE fall into the richest tax bracket and are worried about Billary's tax plan. Need more money for those cases of Exquiste basketball and NT football.

Good job, here's some more homework for you:
Lied about Benghazi.
Massive voter fraud.
The military not getting their votes counted.
Used a secret private server with classified material to hide her activities.
The NSA monitoring our phone calls, emails and everything else.
Used the Clinton Foundation as a cover for tax evasion, hiring cronies, And taking bribes from foreign countries.
Drones being operated in our own country without the benefit of the law.
Giving 123 Technologies $300 Million, and right afterward it declared bankruptcy and was sold to the Chinese.
Arming the Muslim Brotherhood and hiring them in the White House.
Whitewater, Watergate committee, Vince Foster, commodity Deals.
The funding of Neo Nazis in the Ukraine that led to the toppling of the democratically elected president and to the biggest crisis that country has had since WWII.
Turned Libya into chaos.
Was the mastermind of the so-called “Arab Spring” that only brought chaos, death and destruction to the Middle East and North Africa.
Leaving four Americans to die in Benghazi and go to sleep.
Trashing Mubarak, one of our few Muslim friends.

Encouraging and supporting the murders of Palestinians and the destruction of their homes, towns and villages by Israel ?"
The funding and arming of terrorists in Syria, the destruction and destabilization of that nation, giving the order to our lapdogs in Turkey and Saudi Arabia to give sarin gas to the "moderate" terrorists in Syria that they eventually used on civilians, and framed Assad, and had it not been for the Russians and Putin, we would have used that as a pretext to invade Syria, put a puppet in power, steal their natural resources, and leave that country in total chaos, just like we did with Libya.
The creation of the biggest refugees crisis since WWII.
Leaves Iraq in chaos.
The DOJ spying on the press.
HHS Secretary Sibelius shaking down health insurance Executives.
Giving her cronies in SOLYNDRA $500 MILLION DOLLARS and 3 Months Later they declared bankruptcy and then the Chinese bought it.
The NSA monitoring citizens.
The State Department interfering with an Inspector General Investigation on departmental sexual misconduct.
Hillary, The IRS, Clapper and Holder all lying to Congress.
Threats to all of Bill's former mistresses to keep them quiet.
Take your time, I'll wait.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by greentown

James Carville: “If you drag a hundred-dollar bill through a trailer park, you never know what you’ll find”

Betsey Write coined "bimbo eruptions"

Taylor Branch notes recorded conversation with Bill Clinton in which he refered to Jones as a "floozy"

I found those, too. Nicely embedded in right wing "news" publications. The ones that wouldn't commend Obama if he saved a bus load of nuns from a burning building.

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by Timmay

Good job, here's some more homework for you:
Lied about Benghazi.
Massive voter fraud.
The military not getting their votes counted.
Used a secret private server with classified material to hide her activities.
The NSA monitoring our phone calls, emails and everything else.
Used the Clinton Foundation as a cover for tax evasion, hiring cronies, And taking bribes from foreign countries.
Drones being operated in our own country without the benefit of the law.
Giving 123 Technologies $300 Million, and right afterward it declared bankruptcy and was sold to the Chinese.
Arming the Muslim Brotherhood and hiring them in the White House.
Whitewater, Watergate committee, Vince Foster, commodity Deals.
The funding of Neo Nazis in the Ukraine that led to the toppling of the democratically elected president and to the biggest crisis that country has had since WWII.
Turned Libya into chaos.
Was the mastermind of the so-called “Arab Spring” that only brought chaos, death and destruction to the Middle East and North Africa.
Leaving four Americans to die in Benghazi and go to sleep.
Trashing Mubarak, one of our few Muslim friends.
Trump: "No the other one:"
Hillary: "Encouraging and supporting the murders of Palestinians and the destruction of their homes, towns and villages by Israel ?"
The funding and arming of terrorists in Syria, the destruction and destabilization of that nation, giving the order to our lapdogs in Turkey and Saudi Arabia to give sarin gas to the "moderate" terrorists in Syria that they eventually used on civilians, and framed Assad, and had it not been for the Russians and Putin, we would have used that as a pretext to invade Syria, put a puppet in power, steal their natural resources, and leave that country in total chaos, just like we did with Libya.
The creation of the biggest refugees crisis since WWII.
Leaves Iraq in chaos.
The DOJ spying on the press.
HHS Secretary Sibelius shaking down health insurance Executives.
Giving her cronies in SOLYNDRA $500 MILLION DOLLARS and 3 Months Later they declared bankruptcy and then the Chinese bought it.
The NSA monitoring citizens.
The State Department interfering with an Inspector General Investigation on departmental sexual misconduct.
Hillary, The IRS, Clapper and Holder all lying to Congress.
Threats to all of Bill's former mistresses to keep them quiet.
Take your time, I'll wait.

We need a third Obama term.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by Timmay

Good job, here's some more homework for you:
Lied about Benghazi.
Massive voter fraud.
The military not getting their votes counted.
Used a secret private server with classified material to hide her activities.
The NSA monitoring our phone calls, emails and everything else.
Used the Clinton Foundation as a cover for tax evasion, hiring cronies, And taking bribes from foreign countries.
Drones being operated in our own country without the benefit of the law.
Giving 123 Technologies $300 Million, and right afterward it declared bankruptcy and was sold to the Chinese.
Arming the Muslim Brotherhood and hiring them in the White House.
Whitewater, Watergate committee, Vince Foster, commodity Deals.
The funding of Neo Nazis in the Ukraine that led to the toppling of the democratically elected president and to the biggest crisis that country has had since WWII.
Turned Libya into chaos.
Was the mastermind of the so-called “Arab Spring” that only brought chaos, death and destruction to the Middle East and North Africa.
Leaving four Americans to die in Benghazi and go to sleep.
Trashing Mubarak, one of our few Muslim friends.
Trump: "No the other one:"
Hillary: "Encouraging and supporting the murders of Palestinians and the destruction of their homes, towns and villages by Israel ?"
The funding and arming of terrorists in Syria, the destruction and destabilization of that nation, giving the order to our lapdogs in Turkey and Saudi Arabia to give sarin gas to the "moderate" terrorists in Syria that they eventually used on civilians, and framed Assad, and had it not been for the Russians and Putin, we would have used that as a pretext to invade Syria, put a puppet in power, steal their natural resources, and leave that country in total chaos, just like we did with Libya.
The creation of the biggest refugees crisis since WWII.
Leaves Iraq in chaos.
The DOJ spying on the press.
HHS Secretary Sibelius shaking down health insurance Executives.
Giving her cronies in SOLYNDRA $500 MILLION DOLLARS and 3 Months Later they declared bankruptcy and then the Chinese bought it.
The NSA monitoring citizens.
The State Department interfering with an Inspector General Investigation on departmental sexual misconduct.
Hillary, The IRS, Clapper and Holder all lying to Congress.
Threats to all of Bill's former mistresses to keep them quiet.
Take your time, I'll wait.

All those crimes and she isn't in jail? Trump needs to forget about tax breaks, he needs to revamp the judicial system.

Plus I never said I'm for Hillary. I voted neither and you can check my prior posts. What I'm against are mud slinging and false "truths" being flung about by the sudden Trump-huggers.

[zachtruitt]

Massive voter fraud?

[greentown]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

I found those, too. Nicely embedded in right wing "news" publications. The ones that wouldn't commend Obama if he saved a bus load of nuns from a burning building.

CNN/AllPolitics - Jones vs. Clinton

Not Obama friendly but contains Branchs notes:

Audio: Bill Clinton Privately Mocked Paula Jones as an Attention-Seeking ?Floozy? - Washington Free Beacon

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/21/us...ith-women.html

hmmmm....

And as an added bonus, the NYT articule even includes a false rape accuser and admitted child molester who is a Clinton campaign speaker.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

We need a third Obama term.

If that happened, maybe Trump could build a giant boat, call it the Trumptanic, and take all his huggers out to sea for four years. Maybe then something could get accomplished in this country without all the whining crybabies getting in the way.

[greentown]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

If that happened, maybe Trump could build a giant boat, call it the Trumptanic, and take all his huggers out to sea for four years. Maybe then something could get accomplished in this country without all the whining crybabies getting in the way.

Kind of like the first 2 years of his presidency when the Dems had such a majority, they could pass whatever they wanted even without the Reps votes.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by greentown

CNN/AllPolitics - Jones vs. Clinton

Not Obama friendly but contains Branchs notes:

Audio: Bill Clinton Privately Mocked Paula Jones as an Attention-Seeking ?Floozy? - Washington Free Beacon

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/21/us...ith-women.html

hmmmm....

And as an added bonus, the NYT articule even includes a false rape accuser and admitted child molester who is a Clinton campaign speaker.

James Carville: The ragin' cajun Clinton loyalist set up a Web site to rebut the president's critics on Paula Jones and other Clinton scandals such as Whitewater. Carville's infamous comment, "If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a trailer park, you never know what you'll find," may have done the president more harm than good.

Nice finds. Gotta give you credit for that.

[Timmay]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

All those crimes and she isn't in jail? Trump needs to forget about tax breaks, he needs to revamp the judicial system.

Plus I never said I'm for Hillary. I voted neither and you can check my prior posts. What I'm against are mud slinging and false "truths" being flung about by the sudden Trump-huggers.

Comon, we're talking about Hillary here.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by greentown

Kind of like the first 2 years of his presidency when the Dems had such a majority, they could pass whatever they wanted even without the Reps votes.

Not quite...

Following the 2010 elections, in which Republicans took control of the House, Obama and Congressional Republicans engaged in a protracted stand-off over government spending levels and the debt ceiling.

His term started in 2009. So not quite two years.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by Timmay

Comon, we're talking about Hillary here.

So.....is she like OJ?

[Timmay]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

So.....is she like OJ?

No, OJ's in jail.

[greentown]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Not quite...

Following the 2010 elections, in which Republicans took control of the House, Obama and Congressional Republicans engaged in a protracted stand-off over government spending levels and the debt ceiling.

His term started in 2009. So not quite two years.

Obama took office on January 20, 2009.

The newly elected Congress took office on January 3, 2011.

Close enough to two years.

They wouldn't even have to waste time reading anything, as shown by the quote about the AHA, "We will just have to pass it to find out what is in it"

[greentown]

Originally Posted by Timmay

No, OJ's in jail.

But for robbery.

[Timmay]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

All those crimes and she isn't in jail? Trump needs to forget about tax breaks, he needs to revamp the judicial system.

Plus I never said I'm for Hillary. I voted neither and you can check my prior posts. What I'm against are mud slinging and false "truths" being flung about by the sudden Trump-huggers.

I am more anti Hillary than pro Trump. I thought they should have disqualified Hillary and gone with Biden. I would vote for Biden over Trump.

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

A viral graphic said that Hillary Clinton was forced to return about $200,000 worth of furniture, artwork and china that she had stolen from the White House. The statement contains several inaccuracies.

The Clintons returned about $48,000 in furniture, and they paid the government about $86,000 for other items. Any way you count it, the $200,000 figure is too high.

According to top ethics lawyers, it’s at least debatable -- and at worst hyperbolic -- to say the Clintons "stole" the items. A congressional investigation found poor tracking of ownership and final disposition of gifts, which makes it hard to speak definitively of wrongdoing. In fact, two items the Clintons returned were ultimately sent back to them. Finally, it’s worth making clear that the "force" they responded to was political pressure, not legal jeopardy.

Accusations of stealing are serious and require a high threshold of evidence, unmet by the charges in this over-the-top graphic. We rate the claim Mostly False.

Nice try. What other right wing BS would you like to throw out?

Here's one that is right:

Trump said, "While Hillary Clinton plans a massive, and I mean massive, tax increase, I have proposed the largest tax reduction of any candidate who has run for president this year, Democrat or Republican."

Clinton is indeed proposing a tax increase, though it can be described as "massive" for only the richest Americans. Meanwhile, Trump is correct that his tax cuts were the biggest of any 2016 candidate. We rate the claim Mostly True

Reading this, I can see why a healthy chunk of BO members are behind Trump. They'll FOR SURE fall into the richest tax bracket and are worried about Billary's tax plan. Need more money for those cases of Exquiste basketball and NT football.

Yes, because none of us care about the military, foreign policy, infrastructure, homeland security, and cutting entitlements.

[chezball]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

We need a third Obama term.

Don't worry, Trump love the uninformed.