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[preakness]

Mother of Michael Brown invited to speak at DNC

Hands up don't shoot was proven to be made up

DOJ admitted Brown stole from
Convenient store, bullied store owner, reached into officer's car, and was running towards officer when shot.

Shame that he is dead but why glorify him?
He wasn't an innocent victim

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by jarrodsalas

You have contributed absolutely nothing to this thread. Nothing.

Back at ya.

[jarrodsalas]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Back at ya.

Trump increased by 3 since I started interacting tonight. Maybe I played a part...maybe I didn't.

[Cervantes]

Originally Posted by jarrodsalas

Trump increased by 3 since I started interacting tonight. Maybe I played a part...maybe I didn't.

We're even further in debt...did you contribute to that as well?

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by preakness

Mother of Michael Brown invited to speak at DNC

Hands up don't shoot was proven to be made up

DOJ admitted Brown stole from
Convenient store, bullied store owner, reached into officer's car, and was running towards officer when shot.

Shame that he is dead but why glorify him?
He wasn't an innocent victim

So should his mother not speak at the DNC? She's probably going to speak about trying to unite both the African-Americans who feel disenfranchised by the legal system and the police and the LEO's in this country who risk their lives day in and day out. Do you think that's a bad move by the DNC and/or Michael Brown's mom?

[preakness]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

So should his mother not speak at the DNC? She's probably going to speak about trying to unite both the African-Americans who feel disenfranchised by the legal system and the police and the LEO's in this country who risk their lives day in and day out. Do you think that's a bad move by the DNC and/or Michael Brown's mom?

Would be interesting to see if she kept those desires quiet and inside her for this long only to wait until the DNC to express them.
Would be cool if she reminded people that even though it's a shame her son is dead that it is unfortunate that a town got torn up and violence occurred over false statements played over and over by the media and her son making terrible choices the day he died

[jarrodsalas]

Originally Posted by Cervantes

We're even further in debt...did you contribute to that as well?

Not sure what you mean but I paid the IRS this year.

[preakness]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

So should his mother not speak at the DNC? She's probably going to speak about trying to unite both the African-Americans who feel disenfranchised by the legal system and the police and the LEO's in this country who risk their lives day in and day out. Do you think that's a bad move by the DNC and/or Michael Brown's mom?

Many police officers feel that they aren't 100% supported by some important leaders in the Dem party
They feel quick to be judged. Guilty until proven innocent
Heck, the head of the dem party won't even turn on some blue lights

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by preakness

Would be interesting to see if she kept those desires quiet and inside her for this long only to wait until the DNC to express them.
Would be cool if she reminded people that even though it's s shame her son is dead that it unfortunate that a ton got turned up and violence occurred over false statements played over and over by the media and her son making terrible choices the day he died

Even if her the media narrative was different, do you really think that would of prevented what happened in Ferguson? That was a powder keg.

Also, due to the recent events of Dallas and Baton Rouge it's time someone said enough is enough and she'd be one of the best people to stand up and say it. Being the DNC the message is going to reach a bigger audience.

You never answered my question though, do you think she should speak?

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by preakness

Many police officers feel that they aren't 100% supported by some important leaders in the Dem party
They feel quick to be judged. Guilty until proven innocent
Heck, the head of the dem party won't even turn on some blue lights

I have a couple of friends with different agencies around where I live, none of them have ever expressed the feelings you are talking about. Hell, I'm neighbors with an officer who ended up shooting and killing a man in my quiet Austin suburb. Nobody faulted my neighbor one bit and Austin is about as liberal a city as they come.

Blue lights? Nobody cares about any blue lights, the same way no soldiers in the early-mid 2000's cared if you put a yellow ribbon magnet on the back of your car.

[preakness]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

So should his mother not speak at the DNC? She's probably going to speak about trying to unite both the African-Americans who feel disenfranchised by the legal system and the police and the LEO's in this country who risk their lives day in and day out. Do you think that's a bad move by the DNC and/or Michael Brown's mom?

She also stated she expects the officer to apologize for murdering her son.

Also read that she fought her grandmother over $1400 in t shirt sales

[preakness]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Even if her the media narrative was different, do you really think that would of prevented what happened in Ferguson? That was a powder keg.

Also, due to the recent events of Dallas and Baton Rouge it's time someone said enough is enough and she'd be one of the best people to stand up and say it. Being the DNC the message is going to reach a bigger audience.

You never answered my question though, do you think she should speak?

Her son stole from convenient store, pushed store owner, attempted to grab at officer's weapon, resisted arrest and charged after officer

I agree she should yell
Enough is enough. That citizens should stop robbing, stop assaulting, stop resisting arrest, stop attaching officers

Maybe her and the boyfriend / husband can yell "burn this bitch down" while on stage at the DNC

[chezball]

Originally Posted by Mongol

I been dying to discuss the HR4310 national defense act

Obama signed in 2012 making "propaganda legal"

This means we are legally lied to and brain washed by tv and media.

Please just google HR4310 and lmk what you guys think

It also mentions that the media is classified as "entertainment."

Btw I'm not voting but I think Trump is the lesser of the 2 evils.

Well you won't be discussing it here.Total POS

[preakness]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Even if her the media narrative was different, do you really think that would of prevented what happened in Ferguson? That was a powder keg.

Also, due to the recent events of Dallas and Baton Rouge it's time someone said enough is enough and she'd be one of the best people to stand up and say it. Being the DNC the message is going to reach a bigger audience.

You never answered my question though, do you think she should speak?

If she's going to speak with the agenda of admitting her son screwed up and tell the angry protestors that the police aren't these monsters that some are making them out to be ... Then sure, let her speak.

If it's an opportunity to make her son into a victim and or martyr then
No

If she is speaking to make the country better and telling the angry to look at the truth, then shame on her for waiting

Shame Michael Brown died.
If he just paid for the item
At the convenience store and didn't assault the clerk and the cop he would still be alive.

[Cervantes]

Originally Posted by jarrodsalas

Not sure what you mean but I paid the IRS this year.

It was a sarcastic comment, my friend. lol I paid the IRS this year, as well.

No disrespect; just got off work and checking in.

[preakness]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

I have a couple of friends with different agencies around where I live, none of them have ever expressed the feelings you are talking about. Hell, I'm neighbors with an officer who ended up shooting and killing a man in my quiet Austin suburb. Nobody faulted my neighbor one bit and Austin is about as liberal a city as they come.

Blue lights? Nobody cares about any blue lights, the same way no soldiers in the early-mid 2000's cared if you put a yellow ribbon magnet on the back of your car.

I have many friends and family members who are officers and they have expressed how frustrating it is when an officer shooting takes place and the media, governor of MN, and even the president while in Poland already made statements / judgements without all the facts

At ABC town hall special the head of the police officer union said similar. So did LT Gov of Texas on same hour long tv special. He also asked Obama why he's refusing to turn on blue lights to show symbolic support during a time period where many officers don't feel it. He stated white house even did purple lights for prince lol. They did funky lights for some Disney reason. Chief of police of Cleveland echoed same. So did Milwaukee chief.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by preakness

Her son stole from convenient store, pushed store owner, attempted to grab at officer's weapon, resisted arrest and charged after officer

I agree she should yell
Enough is enough. That citizens should stop robbing, stop assaulting, stop resisting arrest, stop stacking offices

Maybe her and the boyfriend / husband can yell "burn good bitch down" while on stage

I agree with you that the Michael Brown shooting was justified. Where we disagree is that the reaction to the shooting by the citizens was sparked solely by the death of Michael Brown.

The same DOJ you bring up to exonerate the officer in this shooting, also published this report:

https://www.justice.gov/sites/defaul...ent_report.pdf

108 pages of abuse and constitutional rights violations from the police department, the courts, and the local government in Ferguson against it's own citizens.

Michael Brown was the straw that broke the camels back in that instance. So while you point to Michael Brown being his own worst enemy that day (he was), don't be willfully ignorant of the angst the city of Ferguson had with it's local government. A local government that throughout the years had trampled on the rights of it's own citizens time and time again. If any city in this country had the right to be suspicious of it's PD, it was Ferguson.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by jarrodsalas

Trump increased by 3 since I started interacting tonight. Maybe I played a part...maybe I didn't.

Well, you are a graduate of the prestigious Trump University.
The Donald loves his alumni. He said so.

[Cervantes]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Well, you are a graduate of the prestigious Trump University.
The Donald loves his alumni. He said so.

LOL

Did you pay the 35 grand to be a Trump baby?

[preakness]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

I have a couple of friends with different agencies around where I live, none of them have ever expressed the feelings you are talking about. Hell, I'm neighbors with an officer who ended up shooting and killing a man in my quiet Austin suburb. Nobody faulted my neighbor one bit and Austin is about as liberal a city as they come.

Blue lights? Nobody cares about any blue lights, the same way no soldiers in the early-mid 2000's cared if you put a yellow ribbon magnet on the back of your car.

No idea what your neighbor's shooting has to do with this discussion. Maybe it was never a big deal because it was clear cut justified.

And yes, the blue lights do matter to some. Based on the fact that numerous law enforcement reps and other activists have formally requested means so. World doesn't revolve around you

Good job of speaking for the police and the military vets though without any concrete examples

Also funny how you predicting what Brown's mother going to talk about.

[TheFrenzy]

Hillary = Panini

Jeb Bush = Topps

Trump = Haiku

Bernie Sanders = Upper Deck

Gary Johnson/Jill Stein = Leaf

[GeechQuest]

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[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by preakness

Many police officers feel that they aren't 100% supported by some important leaders in the Dem party
They feel quick to be judged. Guilty until proven innocent
Heck, the head of the dem party won't even turn on some blue lights

You were the one speaking for the police officers without giving any examples, I gave one that happens to live 2 houses down. The only one I can speak for because I know him personally and we've had this discussion many times. But you're right, I don't speak for anybody but myself, and I find your talking points to be extremely lame and lacking in any sort of depth.

If you think by not showing blue lights at the White House shows a lack of support for police, that's fine. I think bumper sticker activism is about as low as twitter activism, but that's just me. The correlation to the Yellow Ribbons on the back of cars during the Iraq invasion was just what popped in my head. I thought back then the same way I do now, if you did that and thought that somehow you were supporting the troops through magnetic decals you were lame.

[GreatAlbert]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Hillary = Panini

Jeb Bush = Topps

Trump = Haiku

Bernie Sanders = Upper Deck

Gary Johnson/Jill Stein = Leaf

I agree with everything here except the Jeb Bush = Topps. Would like to see your reasoning behind that one. I would say Topps would be more along the lines of Carson.

[corndog]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

You were the one speaking for the police officers without giving any examples, I gave one that happens to live 2 houses down. The only one I can speak for because I know him personally and we've had this discussion many times. But you're right, I don't speak for anybody but myself, and I find your talking points to be extremely lame and lacking in any sort of depth.

If you think by not showing blue lights at the White House shows a lack of support for police, that's fine. I think bumper sticker activism is about as low as twitter activism, but that's just me. The correlation to the Yellow Ribbons on the back of cars during the Iraq invasion was just what popped in my head. I thought back then the same way I do now, if you did that and thought that somehow you were supporting the troops through magnetic decals you were lame.

So what you are saying is that the same people that put a single blue stripe on their back windshields using painters tape are lame also for expressing a visual support of the police officers who protect them? Or put the yellow ribbons on trees during the Iran hostage crisis in 1980 to show a visual support?

Burning down neighborhoods and civil disorder is much more effective, huh?

Your statements aren't looking very well thought out.