2016 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - All Politics & Dumb Opinions Here

[babyfaceposey]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

I haven't learned anything about Trump yet :/

Think of it as prospecting. Do your own research.

[callou2131]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

So fox and Fox News are channels / companies with opposing views? Find that pretty damn hard to believe.


My plan is to watch Fox News during the dem convention.

They are completely different and separate. The local Fox stations are just like any other regular local news stations. Fox news channel is national and is the one that shows Hannity, and Orielly

[chipmaster]

Originally Posted by callou2131

Not just border states. Maryland and DC has the largest populations of MS13 gang members in the country. Why? Easy! Sanctuary state. We were one of the first states that issued drivers licenses to illegals. Sure...they cant buy auto insurance...but heres a license!! My PC section of my jail is loaded with Illegal rapists and child molesters. ICE has not deported a single on in 7 years. They used to be here every Tuesday morning. Now when their sentences are done, out the door they go!

They stopped doing the drivers licenses for illegals a few years back I believe, but I was outraged that they were doing this. It just condoned their illegal actions - WTF were they thinking doing that? Oh yeah, forgot the state was controlled by sympathetic liberals who feel everyone has the right to be here and suck down our social services when they are already struggling.

[Anderdale]

Originally Posted by babyfaceposey

Think of it as prospecting. Do your own research.

I didn't realize he is 70!

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by xavieronly1

You can visit Home Depot at 5am in those states. Many workers are being picked up for daily work. They get paid less the minimum salary.

This is just one example.

but what is the economic benefit or drawback of this?

[jarrodsalas]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

So fox and Fox News are channels / companies with opposing views? Find that pretty damn hard to believe.


My plan is to watch Fox News during the dem convention.

FoxNews is owned by the Fox media network but their views are differing.

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by babyfaceposey

Think of it as prospecting. Do your own research.

I have but figures people here voting for him could give me their reasons. Ya know, in a civil mature way.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

I have but figures people here voting for him could give me their reasons. Ya know, in a civil mature way.

Why should everyone repeat what they've said for 40+ pages? You could go back and reread alot of the stuff and you'll find it

[Cervantes]

Originally Posted by callou2131

Not just border states. Maryland and DC has the largest populations of MS13 gang members in the country. Why? Easy! Sanctuary state. We were one of the first states that issued drivers licenses to illegals. Sure...they cant buy auto insurance...but heres a license!! My PC section of my jail is loaded with Illegal rapists and child molesters. ICE has not deported a single on in 7 years. They used to be here every Tuesday morning. Now when their sentences are done, out the door they go!

Mara Salvatrucha, while comprised of many different nationalities, is mostly comprised of El Salvadoreans.

I remember a detective speaking to me in jr. high school, and trying to convince me it was a Mexican prison gang that spawned from the Mexican Mafia.

Education is fun.

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Why should everyone repeat what they've said for 40+ pages? You could go back and reread alot of the stuff and you'll find it

Because I asked nicely?

[chezball]

Originally Posted by callou2131

Not just border states. Maryland and DC has the largest populations of MS13 gang members in the country. Why? Easy! Sanctuary state. We were one of the first states that issued drivers licenses to illegals. Sure...they cant buy auto insurance...but heres a license!! My PC section of my jail is loaded with Illegal rapists and child molesters. ICE has not deported a single on in 7 years. They used to be here every Tuesday morning. Now when their sentences are done, out the door they go!

Let's not forget NY there's tons of them here.
Makes me sick when I'm in the super market and they whip out their food stamp card. HTF do do give someone who's here illegally here any benefits.

[babyfaceposey]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

I'm sure they will come up again. He had the full week to lay his plans out so people that pay attention should hear SOMETHING. He didn't really go into much detail last night, it was a typical "I'm gonna make everything great" kinda speech.

He did a great job of saying how terrible the country is but he is the solution, "believe me".

Unfortunately, nothing he's ever said or done, makes me believe a word out his mouth.

And before someone replies "well Hillary has?" I never said that, I'm just saying trump hasn't.

We get it you don't like Trump. What is it that you like about Johnson and Clinton?

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by chezball

Let's not forget NY there's tons of them here.
Makes me sick when I'm in the super market and they whip out their food stamp card. HTF do do give someone who's here illegally here any benefits.

and the liberals want to keep expanding this stuff

[callou2131]

Originally Posted by Cervantes

Mara Salvatrucha, while comprised of many different nationalities, is mostly comprised of El Salvadoreans.

I remember a detective speaking to me in jr. high school, and trying to convince me it was a Mexican prison gang that spawned from the Mexican Mafia.

Education is fun.

I am well aware of where they are from. I have been dealing with gangs for 11 years. Which border you think they use to get here? Think they leave and go up through Canada then down through Michigan?
Education is fun.

[Cervantes]

Originally Posted by chezball

Let's not forget NY there's tons of them here.
Makes me sick when I'm in the super market and they whip out their food stamp card. HTF do do give someone who's here illegally here any benefits.

I agree 1,000%.

I also don't know how the F we give benefits to AMERICAN born people who REFUSE to work, because it's easier to live off of me (and you), yet act as if I owe them something and my sole purpose in life is to serve them.

I deal with that. A lot. As does my wife. A lot.

God bless.

[Cervantes]

Originally Posted by callou2131

I am well aware of where they are from. I have been dealing with gangs for 11 years. Which border you think they use to get here? Think they leave and go up through Canada then down through Michigan?
Education is fun.

Nobody said anything remotely close to that.

Comprehension is fun, as well.

My stance is the same as it's always been. Control OUR borders.

Recognize the difference between ''hispanic'' (hate that word) immigrants.

[xavieronly1]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

but what is the economic benefit or drawback of this?

Job is assigned to undocumented immigrants. Less tax are being paid from the payroll/income. The states have more hospital bills to pay from people who couldn't pay for their hospital bills.

This is just a start.

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by babyfaceposey

We get it you don't like Trump. What is it that you like about Johnson and Clinton?

Don't know enough about Johnson to say I like or dislike him but from what I've read and heard he's a socially liberal conservative which is what I think is best. Need to know more before I'd say I will vote for him.

Hillary is more socially liberal than trump which I like but I think she is too far left which becomes way to close to a socialist fiscal policy which I don't like. While she has been caught lying I believe what comes out of her mouth more than Trump. I don't specifically like her but I like her more than Trump. If she were more fiscally conservative I'd like her more. I think Sanders forced her to move even more left than she was already which isn't good. Hillary also doesn't make me feel like we are going to go into a state of martial law and then into World War 3 while Trump does.

I hope Gary Johnson can gain enough traction to get into the debates as I think he is the perfect compromise.


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[preakness]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

1) Mexico doesn't care and will continue to not care so we need to do something about it. FYI a bigger wall won't help.

2) Impoverished, war-torn countries because of those 2 reasons

3)Little to no social impact, little to no economic impact as well the pros and cons more than likely offset each other, the biggest concern is security with large numbers of immigrants coming from countries that we destroyed in the quest for oil and to force "democracy" on everyone else

Economic
Huge impact here in AZ as far as schools
---more crowded classrooms = less funds for non illegals
At my school districts are charged about $30,000 per student.
Tax payers are not only paying for illegals to attend the regular district school but then also an additional 30K to come to my school since they got kicked out of their school.

There are many other private schools like mine and they have illegals there too. Tremendous amount of $$$$$$$$$

[greentown]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

1) Mexico doesn't care and will continue to not care so we need to do something about it. FYI a bigger wall won't help.

2) Impoverished, war-torn countries because of those 2 reasons

3)Little to no social impact, little to no economic impact as well the pros and cons more than likely offset each other, the biggest concern is security with large numbers of immigrants coming from countries that we destroyed in the quest for oil and to force "democracy" on everyone else

On #3. Here in Texas we have an estimated 1.8 million illegals. Latest available figures are that they cost the state approximately 12.1 billion a year vs paying in 1.2 billion.

[chezball]

Originally Posted by Cervantes

I agree 1,000%.

I also don't know how the F we give benefits to AMERICAN born people who REFUSE to work, because it's easier to live off of me (and you), yet act as if I owe them something and my sole purpose in life is to serve them.

I deal with that. A lot. As does my wife. A lot.

God bless.

That's a subject for another day and that thread wouldn't last.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

Don't know enough about Johnson to say I like or dislike him but from what I've read and heard he's a socially liberal conservative which is what I think is best. Need to know more before I'd say I will vote for him.

Hillary is more socially liberal than trump which I like but I think she is too far left which becomes way to fiscally liberal which I don't like. While she has been caught lying I believe what comes out of her mouth more than Trump. I don't specifically like her but I like her more than Trump. If she were more fiscally conservative I'd like her more. I think Sanders forced her to move even more left than she was already which isn't good. Hillary also doesn't make me feel like we are going to go into a state of martial law and then into World War 3 while Trump does.

I hope Gary Johnson can gain enough traction to get into the debates as I think he is the perfect compromise.


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I'm not sure you know very much about Hillary if you think she's fiscally liberal

[xavieronly1]

Originally Posted by chezball

Let's not forget NY there's tons of them here.
Makes me sick when I'm in the super market and they whip out their food stamp card. HTF do do give someone who's here illegally here any benefits.

Illegal immigrants are not eligible to receive food stamps in NYC.

Please check your fact.

[callou2131]

Originally Posted by Cervantes

Nobody said anything remotely close to that.

Comprehension is fun, as well.

My stance is the same as it's always been. Control OUR borders.

Recognize the difference between ''hispanic'' (hate that word) immigrants.

Where did I say anything about Hispanics?? I said we had a huge population of MS13 due to a porous Mexican border. What does that have to do with the difference of nationalities of illegal immigrants?

Comprehension is fun.

[callou2131]

Originally Posted by xavieronly1

Illegal immigrants are not eligible to receive food stamps in NYC.

Please check your fact.

Nope but their kids are! Thats the catch. You have 3 anchor babies, they are the ones getting the benefits, but since they are under 18, the cards WIC and food stamps as well as housing are issued to mom and dad.