2016 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - All Politics & Dumb Opinions Here

[7jacfire]

I haven't read anything in this thread, but I'm still shocked that Clinton beat Sanders. I am only in high school, but I have never met another student or teacher who supported Clinton. Her supporters are basically supporters of Sanders who just don't like Trump. I dislike both Clinton and Trump and I fear for the future of our country with either of them in charge.

[chezball]

Originally Posted by Timmay

Yes, it was proven but no charges. In their mind that makes her innocent.

No, Colby when he was being grilled asked for the proof. He received it the next day.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...6l5o9X2zaHs_4g

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by Timmay

With Hillary supporters it's always about proof and evidence. You never hear a Hillary supporter looking for the truth. I wonder why?

We did look into those 30,000 missing Clinton Emails. No charges. No crime.
That is the truth, by definition.

Why didn't we look into this?

"On April 12, 2007, towards the end of Bush's second term, the White House, responding to congressional demands for emails in connection with its investigation into the partisan firing of eight U.S. attorneys, announced that as many as five million emails, covering a two-year span, had been lost.

The emails had been run through private accounts controlled by the Republican National Committee and were only supposed to be used for dealing with non-administration political campaign work to avoid violating ethics laws. Yet congressional investigators already had evidence private emails had been used for government business, including to discuss the firing of one of the U.S. attorneys. The RNC accounts were used by 22 White House staffers, including then-Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove, who reportedly used his RNC email for 95 percent of his communications.

As the Washington Post reported, "Under federal law, the White House is required to maintain records, including e-mails, involving presidential decision-making and deliberations." But suddenly millions of the private RNC emails had gone missing; emails that were seen as potentially crucial evidence by Congressional investigators."

Not a whisper from you guys on that. Not even a peep, but suppose the Democratic Congress had spent the next 5 years investigating them at enormous taxpayer expense, come up with nothing, and still insisted "crimes" had been committed. Surely, the Bush White House wasn't guilty of anything. Surely, this was just a careless mistake.

Well, flip that, and here we are.

[amazinhdgaming]

Originally Posted by 7jacfire

I haven't read anything in this thread, but I'm still shocked that Clinton beat Sanders. I am only in high school, but I have never met another student or teacher who supported Clinton. Her supporters are basically supporters of Sanders who just don't like Trump. I dislike both Clinton and Trump and I fear for the future of our country with either of them in charge.

Same here, living in alabama i have heard noone voting for clinton or trump. Going into 9th grade, most people i have talked to voted R:Kasich, Cruz, Carson, Rubio D:Sanders

[Ephland]

Originally Posted by 7jacfire

I am only in high school, but I have never met another student or teacher who supported Clinton. Her supporters are basically supporters of Sanders who just don't like Trump. I dislike both Clinton and Trump and I fear for the future of our country with either of them in charge.

You'll (hopefully) learn, as you get older, that people have been saying this for years.

People feared for the country when Bill Clinton got elected.
People feared for the country when George W. Bush got elected.
People feared for the country when Barack Obama got elected.

It'd be great if people stopped fearing so damn much, and starting actually thinking.

For example, my dad used to work with a guy that was worried because Barack Obama had a day 1 piece of legislation, waiting to be signed as soon as he walked into the Oval Office, that would immediately outlaw all handguns. In the 7+ years he's been president, how many guns of any sort has Barack Obama outlawed? (zero is the answer, if you didn't know)

I've read an email conversation my boss had with someone sharing their fears that the US Democratic Party was in the first stages of a 150 year plan to create a 1-government world that they would rule.

I guess my point is, you're 17/18... stop listening to other people's fears, and think about what actually makes sense.

[Timmay]

Originally Posted by jdandns

We did look into those 30,000 missing Clinton Emails. No charges. No crime.
That is the truth, by definition.

Why didn't we look into this?

"On April 12, 2007, towards the end of Bush's second term, the White House, responding to congressional demands for emails in connection with its investigation into the partisan firing of eight U.S. attorneys, announced that as many as five million emails, covering a two-year span, had been lost.

The emails had been run through private accounts controlled by the Republican National Committee and were only supposed to be used for dealing with non-administration political campaign work to avoid violating ethics laws. Yet congressional investigators already had evidence private emails had been used for government business, including to discuss the firing of one of the U.S. attorneys. The RNC accounts were used by 22 White House staffers, including then-Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove, who reportedly used his RNC email for 95 percent of his communications.

As the Washington Post reported, "Under federal law, the White House is required to maintain records, including e-mails, involving presidential decision-making and deliberations." But suddenly millions of the private RNC emails had gone missing; emails that were seen as potentially crucial evidence by Congressional investigators."

Not a whisper from you guys on that. Not even a peep, but suppose the Democratic Congress had spent the next 5 years investigating them at enormous taxpayer expense, come up with nothing, and still insisted "crimes" had been committed. Surely, the Bush White House wasn't guilty of anything. Surely, this was just a careless mistake.

Well, flip that, and here we are.

Bush isn't on the ballot.

[Siberian13]

What do we call Bill if Hillary wins? The First Ladies Man?

[Clarka3]

Originally Posted by Timmay

Bush isn't on the ballot.

no, but if you weren't clamoring for charges then, you really seem silly asking for them now.

that gwb43 debacle was insane.


(for the record, i think charges should have happened then AND now, but that's just me)

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by preakness

Didn't she break rules / procedures with the emails and server?

Breaking rules you can reasonably claim you didn't know you were breaking does not constitute a crime.
This is basically what FBI Director Comey said when announcing the decision not to pursue charges over the matter, and again when grilled by Congress over that decision shortly after.

This was their Plan B.
It failed.
Naturally, they are upset about it.
Add it to the list of the things they are upset about.
It's a great big one...

[preakness]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Breaking rules you can reasonably claim you didn't know you were breaking does not constitute a crime.
This is basically what FBI Director Comey said when announcing the decision not to pursue charges over the matter, and again when grilled by Congress over that decision shortly after.

This was their Plan B.
It failed.
Naturally, they are upset about it.
Add it to the list of the things they are upset about.
It's a great big one...

Ignorance of law no excuse

Carry concealed weapon in wrong state.. Bam

Drive over limit when you didn't know you were in school
Zone... Bam

Not know that vandalism in Thailand or Singapore or wherever results in public caning ....bam

She knew what she was doing was wrong
She also
Knew hubby's weiner had odd odor and why

[RedSoxFan28]

Originally Posted by 7jacfire

I haven't read anything in this thread, but I'm still shocked that Clinton beat Sanders. I am only in high school, but I have never met another student or teacher who supported Clinton. Her supporters are basically supporters of Sanders who just don't like Trump. I dislike both Clinton and Trump and I fear for the future of our country with either of them in charge.

Superdelegates are going to support their democrat "friend", also only democrats were allowed to vote in the primaries.

[Crisscross4767]

Originally Posted by Ephland

You'll (hopefully) learn, as you get older, that people have been saying this for years.

This. My older relatives have been saying the world is coming to an end since I was little.

[Crisscross4767]

Wow. Left this morning when there were 7 pages. Now there are 19.

[Timmay]

Originally Posted by Clarka3

no, but if you weren't clamoring for charges then, you really seem silly asking for them now.

that gwb43 debacle was insane.


(for the record, i think charges should have happened then AND now, but that's just me)

The evidence didn't lead to charges with Bush as it did with Hillary. The Bush administration had two email accounts, one for official government business and another for Republican National Committee business. What is happening now to Clinton is completely different from 2007.

She was the head of a government department, she was a cabinet secretary and under the Obama administration guidelines and the State Department guidelines of 1995, 2009, and 2013, say any government business has to be done on an official government account.

Secretary Clinton is not accused of mixing private and official email. She basically only used private email, and never used State Department email.

[Halbert]

Originally Posted by Crisscross4767

Wow. Left this morning when there were 7 pages. Now there are 19.

I think it is safe to say people on BO like to voice their opinion and talk politcs

[sonnyday]

For the first time in my life, I am dreading voting. I've always voted in every election, presidential or not. Right now I am leaning towards the libertarian candidate Gary Johnson.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by sonnyday

For the first time in my life, I am dreading voting. I've always voted in every election, presidential or not. Right now I am leaning towards the libertarian candidate Gary Johnson.

Why do people vote if they don't like any of the candidates? Just to vote their party?

[chezball]

Originally Posted by Halbert

I think it is safe to say people on BO like to voice their opinion and talk politcs

Go back to the pokeman thread.

[chezball]

Originally Posted by Crisscross4767

Wow. Left this morning when there were 7 pages. Now there are 19.

Think it was two last night, when I looked at it again it was 13 pages.

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by jdandns

We did look into those 30,000 missing Clinton Emails. No charges. No crime.
That is the truth, by definition.

Why didn't we look into this?

"On April 12, 2007, towards the end of Bush's second term, the White House, responding to congressional demands for emails in connection with its investigation into the partisan firing of eight U.S. attorneys, announced that as many as five million emails, covering a two-year span, had been lost.

The emails had been run through private accounts controlled by the Republican National Committee and were only supposed to be used for dealing with non-administration political campaign work to avoid violating ethics laws. Yet congressional investigators already had evidence private emails had been used for government business, including to discuss the firing of one of the U.S. attorneys. The RNC accounts were used by 22 White House staffers, including then-Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove, who reportedly used his RNC email for 95 percent of his communications.

As the Washington Post reported, "Under federal law, the White House is required to maintain records, including e-mails, involving presidential decision-making and deliberations." But suddenly millions of the private RNC emails had gone missing; emails that were seen as potentially crucial evidence by Congressional investigators."

Not a whisper from you guys on that. Not even a peep, but suppose the Democratic Congress had spent the next 5 years investigating them at enormous taxpayer expense, come up with nothing, and still insisted "crimes" had been committed. Surely, the Bush White House wasn't guilty of anything. Surely, this was just a careless mistake.

Well, flip that, and here we are.

Huh, the fbi is on record saying Hillary did break the law.....

[cruiserdaddy7]

So a bunch of Hispanics are burning an American flag outside of the Republican convention. That's supposed to make people feel bad for illegal immigrants being deported from....America?

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by pingbling23

Huh, the fbi is on record saying Hillary did break the law.....

Go ahead and post that "record".
I'd google it myself, but it doesn't exist.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

So a bunch of Hispanics are burning an American flag outside of the Republican convention. That's supposed to make people feel bad for illegal immigrants being deported from....America?

I call False Flag.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by Timmay

The evidence didn't lead to charges with Bush as it did with Hillary.

Well, no, there were no charges filed against Hillary, either.
That's what we've been talking about.

[chezball]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

So a bunch of Hispanics are burning an American flag outside of the Republican convention. That's supposed to make people feel bad for illegal immigrants being deported from....America?

Seems like a lot of Americans don't understand the word "illegal"