tonights Blowout tv 1973 Topps box break

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by HadWayTooMuch

I hear ya. It's just seeing that just about every card was 90/10 or worse centering and then hearing him say how Card X and Card Y could be a 10 when any amateur (like myself) knows a card with that kind of centering isn't a 10 kind of ruffled my proverbial feathers.

Well you know and understand that aspect of grading he doesn't and that point isn't relevant as no way to know prior to the break when people bought in.

[jerryw]

Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Well you know and understand that aspect of grading he doesn't and that point isn't relevant as no way to know prior to the break when people bought in.

he knows about grading....how many times has he done grading submissions for the big breaks lol

[HadWayTooMuch]

Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Well you know and understand that aspect of grading he doesn't and that point isn't relevant as no way to know prior to the break when people bought in.

True, but there is a history of awful centering in that year.

Again, if those who participated are happy, I have no issue with this. I enjoyed watching it aside from the butchering of so many names. But those are players I remember watching which he may not have.

It is a sin to see wax like that opened. The sum of the parts can never approach the sum of the box sealed.

[BigDan502]

Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

I get what you're saying, I really do. Honestly though, how is paying $35 for a chance at something any worse than spending $35 going to see a movie?

And yes, $11K is legit. They are very rare and very expensive.

because i truly feel that the people in this break really didn't have a chance at anything.
I understand group breaking and it's pluses and minuses.
and i understand the enjoyment people get.

everyone could've watched vintage pack breaks on youtube and gotten the same enjoyment..

I love watching 86-87 basketball breaks when everybody pretends like they didn't know there was a pattern. thinking they'll get a Jordan and here comes Terry Cummings in every pack.

I'm glad everyone had fun watching and i wish a nice Schmidt would've come out. I wish i could sit here and say that's nice, that guy could pull back a couple of grand from this but that didn't happen and wasn't going to happen.

This was the lottery without a real prize.

The 50 case Bowman breaks, they make sense to me.
Case breaks where you're paying for a team or a hit spot make sense.
This one didn't make sense to me

[BigDan502]

Originally Posted by batottu

You would have been better off buying a vintage card.

You bought an overrated product (maybe you purchased one of the 6 1/1 Henderson dynasty cards). The most overrated player in the league, and retired autos of the guy who signs for everyone, anybody and anything.

Congrats ��

I'm happy with it and if i change my mind i can break even in 7 days and buy something else.
greatest hobby in the world

[biletnikoff]

Originally Posted by jerryw

some people feel an hour of watching a box break and being involved is well worth the buy in price...I have been in many breaks where I didn't get a single card and I have been in breaks where I got a 1000+ dollar card (it was probably closer to a 1500 dollar card but I sold it to a super collector for 1000 as I felt my 20 dollar investment was more then compensated at the 1000 mark)

you win some and you lose some but you always have fun in them all

yes but (I havent been involved in any breaks yet) you dont get nothing,right?

if you dont get something in the break they still compensate you with card packs or something of some sort?

[rngrdanny22]

Originally Posted by biletnikoff

yes but (I havent been involved in any breaks yet) you dont get nothing,right?

if you dont get something in the break they still compensate you with card packs or something of some sort?

In most breaks, if your player/team doesn't get drawn, you're out of luck. This was a high risk break in that it was only one box, random player, and a huge 660 card checklist. Most breaks you see will be at least a case and newer products have lower checklist counts, so you're more than likely to leave with something.

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by biletnikoff

yes but (I havent been involved in any breaks yet) you dont get nothing,right?

if you dont get something in the break they still compensate you with card packs or something of some sort?

Yes. Houdini will send a participation ribbon to the entrants. Even after he stated this was high risk.

[1DogCollector]

Originally Posted by BigDan502

The vintage box only has value as a vintage box.
It's really only cool until it's opened. It's essentially a new car coming off a lot.

If everybody paid $17 a spot and 1 winner got the unopened box, I'm fine with that
but that wasn't what this was. This was a way to unload an $11k box in a way where no one would care if they didn't get anything.

Tell me 1 person of the 660 people who spent $17 a piece that is happy right now

The thing is I would imagine everybody went into this eyes wide open. Nobody got fleeced, everyone knew the risk yet still joined. The reason they joined is that it was a gamble. Not a good one in my opinion but then again I join breaks and over pay for my spot every time to get my PC guy. The reason I do this is to have a chance at a rare card knowing I'll probably lose out. Anyone that joins group breaks likes to gamble a little it just depends how much.

[biletnikoff]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

Yes. Houdini will send a participation ribbon to the entrants. Even after he stated this was high risk.

and card packs?

[1DogCollector]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

Yes. Houdini will send a participation ribbon to the entrants. Even after he stated this was high risk.

Haha yeah I doubt he would to everyone that didn't hit in this break. He actually does send a few autos to people that go hit less in some other breaks I've seen. Never seen another breaker do that.

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by 1DogCollector

Haha yeah I doubt he would to everyone that didn't hit in this break. He actually does send a few autos to people that go hit less in some other breaks I've seen. Never seen another breaker do that.

Yeah. He has done nice things for people that spend big on slots and get shut out. Its a very nice gesture, something he certainly doesn't have to do.

But to expect something for the hundreds of slots shutout in this one? That's crazy talk. He was very upfront about it being high risk, I'm guessing partly because people wont do the math.

[biletnikoff]

who got the Rollie Fingers?

[NickM]

Originally Posted by HadWayTooMuch

True, but there is a history of awful centering in that year.

Again, if those who participated are happy, I have no issue with this. I enjoyed watching it aside from the butchering of so many names. But those are players I remember watching which he may not have.

It is a sin to see wax like that opened. The sum of the parts can never approach the sum of the box sealed.

There is a history of awful centering in every year of Topps prior to the late 1980s.

If you have 90/10 back centering and everything else about the card meets PSA 9 grading standards, you can get a PSA 9. There is no 10(OC).

Unfortunately, most of the cards in the recap picture look like PSA 7 centering or worse [I do see a few better], meaning that the best grade you could hope to get on them is a 9(OC) or a 7.

And I would have never opened it either. Vintage wax carries a massive premium for unopened packs.

[BigDan502]

Originally Posted by biletnikoff

who got the Rollie Fingers?

turn it over

[base set]

some cool cards in 1973, lots of shots from actual baseball stadiums now no longer with us. for some, probably a fun way to get a random blast from the past. the 'cars' card is the bomb, some others.

sign me up for a 1975 break. my dream in life is to open just one pack from that year again, though for some reason I don't want to rip a mini pack. off to _the_ website to see if anything has surfaced lately...

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by BigDan502

turn it over

And see his great stats.

[biletnikoff]

Originally Posted by BigDan502

turn it over

[BigDan502]

Originally Posted by biletnikoff

lol..

[biletnikoff]

Where's the thing that says how many people were in the break at 17.00 a piece or how many spots?

[Crisscross4767]

Did my Dick Green card get pulled?

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by biletnikoff

Where's the thing that says how many people were in the break at 17.00 a piece or how many spots?

The very Original post in the break thread. 660 spots

[biletnikoff]

Unless the guy is motivated by pure greed,this should be recognized as a mistake.

It should have been just 24 people for the 24 teams in the league or for the 24 packs in the box at 25 to 40 bucks per person.

Either everyone gets a pack or what ever players show up for picked team.

While 17$ seems harmless. ..times 660?
He ripped off the entire collection community .

11,000$ for a box of cardboard.

[jpitten]

Originally Posted by biletnikoff

Unless the guy is motivated by pure greed,this should be recognized as a mistake.

It should have been just 24 people for the 24 teams in the league or for the 24 packs in the box at 25 to 40 bucks per person.

Either everyone gets a pack or what ever players show up for picked team.

While 17$ seems harmless. ..times 660?
He ripped off the entire collection community .

11,000$ for a box of cardboard.

24 x $40????? Check your math

[mjohnatgt]

Learn a little about how this went down. The product costs $11,000; this was not a 3rd series box, it had the opportunity for every card in the set. Whether this was the best vintage box to break, probably not. The breaker is not making thousands of dollars. About 50 of the spots were giveways of some sort.
This break was about spending FUN MONEY for people who enjoy breaking. Everyone who was in the break was notified in advance they may not get anything, and yet, it still filled quicker than many box breaks where you're guaranteed hundreds of cards. It doesn't need any White Knights.