tonights Blowout tv 1973 Topps box break - Page 4

Cavaliercards · 05-20-2016, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDan502

The break bothered me because people trashed the Prospect Rush guy for months.
They destroy Topps when Tribute happens or they sell Finest direct.
God forbid a redemption doesn't get fulfilled.

not a peep for this though

Big difference between this and Prospect Rush and Topps

rngrdanny22 · 05-20-2016, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Big difference between this and Prospect Rush and Topps

Agreed.

no10pin · 05-20-2016, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDan502

The break bothered me because people trashed the Prospect Rush guy for months.
They destroy Topps when Tribute happens or they sell Finest direct.
God forbid a redemption doesn't get fulfilled.

not a peep for this though

OK, none of that really makes any sense. None of those scenarios are the same as taking a shot on a vintage box.

houstonrules51 · 05-20-2016, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDan502

$458 Pack 23

this reminds me of Brewsters Millions when he licked the stamp.

nothing

Lol! Awesome

HadWayTooMuch · 05-20-2016, 10:07 PM

I have no problem with how people spend their money and I'm sure everyone who participated could spend $17.50 without a care.

My issue is this. It was a losing proposition. Based on the investment and the potential return, how many people could possibly not lose? Probably 2 or 3 out of 660 spots.

But again, it's their money and this isn't a $2800 expenditure like PR was, which was also destined to be a loser for all but 2 or 3 people.

I don't know the price of a 1973 Topps box, but $11k is a lot of money to pay for this break.

I enjoyed watching it though and had no skin in the game!

BigDan502 · 05-20-2016, 10:08 PM

The vintage box only has value as a vintage box.
It's really only cool until it's opened. It's essentially a new car coming off a lot.

If everybody paid $17 a spot and 1 winner got the unopened box, I'm fine with that
but that wasn't what this was. This was a way to unload an $11k box in a way where no one would care if they didn't get anything.

Tell me 1 person of the 660 people who spent $17 a piece that is happy right now

HadWayTooMuch · 05-20-2016, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDan502

The vintage box only has value as a vintage box.
It's really only cool until it's opened. It's essentially a new car coming off a lot.

If everybody paid $17 a spot and 1 winner got the unopened box, I'm fine with that
but that wasn't what this was. This was a way to unload an $11k box in a way where no one would care if they didn't get anything.

Tell me 1 person of the 660 people who spent $17 a piece that is happy right now

The Dwight Evans guy, the Clemente guy, and the Ryan guy are probably the only ones that even approached $17 value. Sad, but true.

biletnikoff · 05-20-2016, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

At least a single person didn't lose $11K. I for one was in at $35. I'm content with what I spent and knew what the risks were (as I'm sure most of the others are). Based on your posts, I get the strong impression you're in this hobby for the money and to make a profit. Some of us aren't.

what did you get for it?
I'm asking in a positive hobby sort of way,not in a judgemental way.

a Clemente is a Clemente,off center or not

rngrdanny22 · 05-20-2016, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDan502

The vintage box only has value as a vintage box.
It's really only cool until it's opened. It's essentially a new car coming off a lot.

If everybody paid $17 a spot and 1 winner got the unopened box, I'm fine with that
but that wasn't what this was. This was a way to unload an $11k box in a way where no one would care if they didn't get anything.

Tell me 1 person of the 660 people who spent $17 a piece that is happy right now

I'm happy. Got zilch. In fact, I was happy before the box was even opened all the while knowing I had two commons. My happiness (and livelihood for that matter) doesn't revolve around a $35 chance at something awesome.

Houdini, let's do another!

notsublime · 05-20-2016, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by no10pin

OK, none of that really makes any sense. None of those scenarios are the same as taking a shot on a vintage box.

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Originally Posted by BigDan502

I'm just not buying the value for the people in the break.
$11,000 was dumped into this by people on this board and at best how much legitimate value is coming out of this?

I read countless threads about ROI and people constantly about about value.
I don't buy that the search is for a PSA 10 common. They go pretty cheap on ebay.

The result is a lot of people thinking , oh well , it was only $17 so they're not that angry about it.

I could be wrong but I think this post clears that up a little.

BigDan502 · 05-20-2016, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by biletnikoff

what did you get for it?
I'm asking in a positive hobby sort of way,not in a judgemental way.

a Clemente is a Clemente,off center or not

that's a positive way to look at it, but it ignores so so much

ElonU · 05-20-2016, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDan502

Tell me 1 person of the 660 people who spent $17 a piece that is happy right now

I am. Very happy actually. Apparently, some people don't like amusement.

You must be the guy at the park always complaining that the rides make you sick. Merry go rounds are a quarter, but the risk of having a little fun is 35 cents too much for you.

biletnikoff · 05-20-2016, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDan502

the second the first 2 cards were turned around you knew the entire box was off cut

these arent paintings.
bubble gum cards are basically an extension of the toy department.

you arent going to get JPL qualified stuff

BigDan502 · 05-20-2016, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ElonU

I am. Very happy actually. Apparently, some people don't like amusement.

You must be the guy at the park always complaining that the rides make you sick. Merry go rounds are a quarter, but the risk of having a little fun is 35 cents too much for you.

I was amused

While i was watching the break i bought 2 lots off the board

picked up another Dynasty Henderson Auto Patch and some Conforto Autos
and 2 heritage Nolan Ryan autos.

The difference between us is I spent money and i'll be receiving something for my money.

HadWayTooMuch · 05-20-2016, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

I'm happy. Got zilch. In fact, I was happy before the box was even opened all the while knowing I had two commons. My happiness (and livelihood for that matter) doesn't revolve around a $35 chance at something awesome.

Houdini, let's do another!

I think the point he's making is you could have burned your $35 or donated it to charity and it would be the same thing.

Only 1-3 people out of 660 (chances, I know some had multiple spots) were going to get anywhere near their whopping $17.50 in value.

I watched it and got the same thrill has 645 or so of the 660 spots.

I differ though as I feel it's your money and if that makes you happy, I have no issue with you spending it.

I'd love to know what the box costs though. Did it really cost anywhere near $11k? I know that stuff is rare, but that sounds a bit high.

biletnikoff · 05-20-2016, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDan502

that's a positive way to look at it, but it ignores so so much

it actually means I'm fully aware of what was expected

and see the glass half full portion. I unserstand your view though and may or may not have wanted involvement in this. Its still a 1972 time capsule!....with gum!

its just a hobby, dude, just a hobby.

the only people really making money off it are -Graders-

and people that host a ton of box breaks, I would imagine?

BigDan502 · 05-20-2016, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by HadWayTooMuch

I think the point he's making is you could have burned your $35 or donated it to charity and it would be the same thing.

Only 1-3 people out of 660 (chances, I know some had multiple spots) were going to get anywhere near their whopping $17.50 in value.

I watched it and got the same thrill has 645 or so of the 660 spots.

I differ though as I feel it's your money and if that makes you happy, I have no issue with you spending it.

I'd love to know what the box costs though. Did it really cost anywhere near $11k? I know that stuff is rare, but that sounds a bit high.

front page of the baseball card exchange has one for 11k

Cavaliercards · 05-20-2016, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDan502

I was amused

While i was watching the break i bought 2 lots off the board

picked up another Dynasty Henderson Auto Patch and some Conforto Autos
and 2 heritage Nolan Ryan autos.

The difference between us is I spent money and i'll be receiving something for my money.

Good for you as that is what you wanted to do. Others wanted to do something else. If he turns the cards and everyone is near Psa 9 or 10 then I doubt a peep is being made.
I hope Houdini does do it again as it is a great opportunity and people enjoy them.

jerryw · 05-20-2016, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDan502

I was amused

While i was watching the break i bought 2 lots off the board

picked up another Dynasty Henderson Auto Patch and some Conforto Autos
and 2 heritage Nolan Ryan autos.

The difference between us is I spent money and i'll be receiving something for my money.

some people feel an hour of watching a box break and being involved is well worth the buy in price...I have been in many breaks where I didn't get a single card and I have been in breaks where I got a 1000+ dollar card (it was probably closer to a 1500 dollar card but I sold it to a super collector for 1000 as I felt my 20 dollar investment was more then compensated at the 1000 mark)

you win some and you lose some but you always have fun in them all

rngrdanny22 · 05-20-2016, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HadWayTooMuch

I think the point he's making is you could have burned your $35 or donated it to charity and it would be the same thing.

Only 1-3 people out of 660 (chances, I know some had multiple spots) were going to get anywhere near their whopping $17.50 in value.

I watched it and got the same thrill has 645 or so of the 660 spots.

I differ though as I feel it's your money and if that makes you happy, I have no issue with you spending it.

I'd love to know what the box costs though. Did it really cost anywhere near $11k? I know that stuff is rare, but that sounds a bit high.

I get what you're saying, I really do. Honestly though, how is paying $35 for a chance at something any worse than spending $35 going to see a movie?

And yes, $11K is legit. They are very rare and very expensive.

Cavaliercards · 05-20-2016, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HadWayTooMuch

I think the point he's making is you could have burned your $35 or donated it to charity and it would be the same thing.

Only 1-3 people out of 660 (chances, I know some had multiple spots) were going to get anywhere near their whopping $17.50 in value.

I watched it and got the same thrill has 645 or so of the 660 spots.

I differ though as I feel it's your money and if that makes you happy, I have no issue with you spending it.

I'd love to know what the box costs though. Did it really cost anywhere near $11k? I know that stuff is rare, but that sounds a bit high.

Again nope as burning or donating you get zero. With this you had a chance at select cards or all being high grades.

HadWayTooMuch · 05-20-2016, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDan502

front page of the baseball card exchange has one for 11k

One or two boxes went for around $9300 or so including buyer's premium at auction.

So the price isn't horribly off. I guess it depends who pockets the $1700 for a couple of hours of work.

I thought Blowout rules said you couldn't make money on breaks...

batottu · 05-20-2016, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDan502

I was amused

While i was watching the break i bought 2 lots off the board

picked up another Dynasty Henderson Auto Patch and some Conforto Autos
and 2 heritage Nolan Ryan autos.

The difference between us is I spent money and i'll be receiving something for my money.

You would have been better off buying a vintage card.

You bought an overrated product (maybe you purchased one of the 6 1/1 Henderson dynasty cards). The most overrated player in the league, and retired autos of the guy who signs for everyone, anybody and anything.

Congrats ��

HadWayTooMuch · 05-20-2016, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Again nope as burning or donating you get zero. With this you had a chance at select cards or all being high grades.

I hear ya. It's just seeing that just about every card was 90/10 or worse centering and then hearing him say how Card X and Card Y could be a 10 when any amateur (like myself) knows a card with that kind of centering isn't a 10 kind of ruffled my proverbial feathers.

jerryw · 05-20-2016, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by HadWayTooMuch

One or two boxes went for around $9300 or so including buyer's premium at auction.

So the price isn't horribly off. I guess it depends who pockets the $1700 for a couple of hours of work.

I thought Blowout rules said you couldn't make money on breaks...

im pretty sure they try and limit the profits to 10% last I knew

05-20-2016, 10:07 PM	#80
HadWayTooMuch Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: I'm not in Kansas anymore... Posts: 8,206	I have no problem with how people spend their money and I'm sure everyone who participated could spend $17.50 without a care. My issue is this. It was a losing proposition. Based on the investment and the potential return, how many people could possibly not lose? Probably 2 or 3 out of 660 spots. But again, it's their money and this isn't a $2800 expenditure like PR was, which was also destined to be a loser for all but 2 or 3 people. I don't know the price of a 1973 Topps box, but $11k is a lot of money to pay for this break. I enjoyed watching it though and had no skin in the game!

05-20-2016, 10:08 PM	#81
BigDan502 Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,327	The vintage box only has value as a vintage box. It's really only cool until it's opened. It's essentially a new car coming off a lot. If everybody paid $17 a spot and 1 winner got the unopened box, I'm fine with that but that wasn't what this was. This was a way to unload an $11k box in a way where no one would care if they didn't get anything. Tell me 1 person of the 660 people who spent $17 a piece that is happy right now