2016 Topps Heritage Preliminary Info - Page 37

jjk10 · 03-09-2016, 03:35 PM

Just pulled a throwback that I haven't seen yet
#337 Yordano Ventura

brentandbecca · 03-09-2016, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jjk10

Just pulled a throwback that I haven't seen yet
#337 Yordano Ventura

congrats!!! did you "pull" it
or buy this one for $5?!? WOW WOW WOW

2016 Topps Heritage Yordano Ventura SP Action Image Variation Royals | eBay

possibly the worst sell in recent history

jjk10 · 03-09-2016, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brentandbecca

congrats!!! did you "pull" it
or buy this one for $5?!? WOW WOW WOW

2016 Topps Heritage Yordano Ventura SP Action Image Variation Royals | eBay

possibly the worst sell in recent history

No, I just pulled it. I was searching to make sure it was a throwback and I saw that $5 sale from March 4. I wasn't the buyer though.

ScooterD · 03-09-2016, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by brentandbecca

congrats!!! did you "pull" it
or buy this one for $5?!? WOW WOW WOW

2016 Topps Heritage Yordano Ventura SP Action Image Variation Royals | eBay

possibly the worst sell in recent history

Ouch.... That would hurt

Dbacksbaseball · 03-09-2016, 04:01 PM

Still no confirmed list of players for the throwbacks is there?

cyndeeg3 · 03-09-2016, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brentandbecca

congrats!!! did you "pull" it
or buy this one for $5?!? WOW WOW WOW

2016 Topps Heritage Yordano Ventura SP Action Image Variation Royals | eBay

possibly the worst sell in recent history

What "should" that have sold for?

fergman78 · 03-09-2016, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cyndeeg3

What "should" that have sold for?

KO probably would have paid $500 or so for it.

kyle121592 · 03-09-2016, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jjk10

Just pulled a throwback that I haven't seen yet
#337 Yordano Ventura

WOW did KO hit the BIN for $750?

brentandbecca · 03-09-2016, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kyle121592

WOW did KO hit the BIN for $750?

yes, he does on all of them that you guys have been getting with me on
this is the 9th throwback (and 5 errors) I have sent him links to for guys on here and twitter that reached out to me first
perhaps a middle man/broker fee should start to be in place, lol

j/k, I appreciate you guys DM and PM me before you list so I can reach him for a head's up (and other buyers if it is one he has) with the links asap as 2 guys are calling, emailing, texting me if I can find more (there are 4 doing the set that I deal with, but only 2 have been able to make any head way so far, with KO being the top guy of course, but MB wants them just as bad and will also insta-buy)

brentandbecca · 03-09-2016, 05:23 PM

I continue to research 2013-2015 color swaps, retro logo, action and wonder why I ever sell a single one of these other than the first 24-48 hours lol
I realize commons rarely increase like harper, trout, jeter
but man, even common color swaps from last year are $25 (not heritage high) or david ortiz sold $72 or cabrera $50-$60
I mean color swaps can be had for $10 now

actions don't quite see the increase especially on the lower tier, but even commons are at $8-$12 on older action sp; that's better than they are now

I realize this is not news or a new thing, just hard for to think of holding that many for later
and of course if trout or harper have bad year or get hurt, then you have that risk, but surely they won't ever be any lower than right now, lol

Bhenry4 · 03-09-2016, 05:47 PM

Shocked on the actions. Thought that I was getting a good deal buying 10 Mannys for $10 on average.

kyle1707 · 03-09-2016, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brentandbecca

congrats!!! did you "pull" it
or buy this one for $5?!? WOW WOW WOW

2016 Topps Heritage Yordano Ventura SP Action Image Variation Royals | eBay

possibly the worst sell in recent history

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kyle1707 · 03-09-2016, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cyndeeg3

What "should" that have sold for?

2016 heritage throwback | eBay

Chaysr20 · 03-09-2016, 08:31 PM

Thank to everyone contributing in this thread. I had already put together base sets ready to ship from my retail break but hadn't really checked for errors because it was just that...retail. Well, the posts here of retail errors inspired me and sure enough, the first set I went through had the "Frank" Liriano Error

pokedextcg · 03-09-2016, 09:13 PM

That is worst then the Senators variation I picked up a couple of years ago for $10 then resold it to Brent who I am sure also resold it lol. I couldnt believe when I saw the BIN on that, I couldn't pay fast enough.

msterling21 · 03-09-2016, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by brentandbecca

yes, he does on all of them that you guys have been getting with me on
this is the 9th throwback (and 5 errors) I have sent him links to for guys on here and twitter that reached out to me first
perhaps a middle man/broker fee should start to be in place, lol

j/k, I appreciate you guys DM and PM me before you list so I can reach him for a head's up (and other buyers if it is one he has) with the links asap as 2 guys are calling, emailing, texting me if I can find more (there are 4 doing the set that I deal with, but only 2 have been able to make any head way so far, with KO being the top guy of course, but MB wants them just as bad and will also insta-buy)

Do they have the Correa throwback yet? I have one coming in tomorrow.

brentandbecca · 03-09-2016, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by msterling21

do they have the correa throwback yet? I have one coming in tomorrow.

no, one of the big two does not!
Set that baby up for double what you paid

BostonNut · 03-09-2016, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by brentandbecca

no, one of the big two does not!
Set that baby up for double what you paid

Hi Brent,

Any idea if the "Big Two" do the Gold Chrome's? I just hit a Trout and listed it as the other one is currently. I see one sold already for a Best Offer.

Skipscards · 03-09-2016, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by brentandbecca

See, everyone is different. These are your opinions.
"Nobody" collects the ad panels? I have 6 guys on my list that want ad panel sets (30 different panels, they pay $180 a set or $6/panel; although heritage high had like 60 different panels like the old days of regular Heritage)
I can not fill all the sets even with 40 cases
I know many who love the panels
And again, for Topps and most collectors, it is important to stay with the original layout of the old products, not change it, making all 3 from same team changes it and also limits the market/collectability perhaps.
as instead of Mets fans chasing 3 panels, they just chase 1
You may like that but some won't

On the SP, it would KILL heritage value for collector's, if they had less SP and easier SP, the 50 sp 1:2 model, is the worst!!! See A&G sets, sets with SP should not be $25, this is old school and sticks to what it is known best for. It used to be 110 sp at 1:2, BUT to copy Ginter by doing 50 at 1:2 would be disastrous on all fronts IMO, shoot even GQ with 50 sp are at least 1:4, and we saw archives go from easy sp to dang tough sp, so personally I disagree, and 95% of Heritage collectors I know feel this is THE set to have; it's large, has sp, but is still easy to obtain and holds value over time due to sp mostly

I do agree the clubhouse collection are not the best, they are not as collected as even series 1 relics, but again I have 5 guys who want a set (which I have never been able to complete full ones)
The set used to be much better with many retired/hof guys, but can't just keep finding new jerseys of those nor for cheap so they save what little they have for higher end. I would not get rid of them though, in this day in age even in a $60-$70 box you need 1 hit no matter how small IMO.

The 1 auto from every team just doe snot hold water to me at all. I see no benefit and is easy to see do this but harder to pull off. Just because the Giants had people in 1967 does not mean they can or will sign or can even be reached in some cases. Last year there were autos of some of those guys like Panik, plus Posey has autos this year, it is just they are on limited items, I pulled his poster auto.

Finally, yes, some may prefer an action over clubhouse, but 1 per box is already often enough, we see them selling for $1-$5 besides the big 3, even Posey is $5 or under at times; you put a 2nd one in, watch out, 50 cents anyone?

And I a not saying this from a seller. I am saying this from the feedback my buyers give me all the time, the history of the past releases and past years they are mimicking, and finally from a collector of the set ad autos myself...I want the value to hold long term too. If I have to pay $220 for a master set at least I know it shouldn't be $100 down the road, but if sp are easy and actin are more easy, sure it's cheaper but doe snot hold value as well or have as much potential to increase down the road, IMO.

We are all different, so Topps has to go with the majority
BUT they also change each product up....not all are created equal or even with same people in mind. If you want an easy sp set, but Ginter, if you want errors and tough sp (Heritage), really tough sp (Archives)
to each his own and there are options

Spot on. I am one of those obsessive collectors of Heritage and the only changes I'd make are one more auto per case and no cheating on the autos. Meaning, to me Ryan shouldn't have appeared in Heritage until next year. I get he was in pro ball, but his RC was 1968 and that should have been his first appearance.

Other than that maybe a little less flair. I really didn't need Supers but that's a very small gripe.

parkerj33 · 03-09-2016, 11:45 PM

Brent if you need panels I have nearly a full set. Pm me.

brentandbecca · 03-10-2016, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BostonNut

Hi Brent,

Any idea if the "Big Two" do the Gold Chrome's? I just hit a Trout and listed it as the other one is currently. I see one sold already for a Best Offer.

they don't, but still a monster without them
congrats

BostonNut · 03-10-2016, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by brentandbecca

they don't, but still a monster without them
congrats

Thanks for the info.

cyndeeg3 · 03-10-2016, 12:31 PM

Thanks Brent for sharing this info! Your two tweets made life about 100x easier to spot the errors/variations/etc - this is the kinda info the hobby needs!

2016 Topps Heritage Baseball Variations Gallery, Checklist

Would it be fair to say that on all (or very close to it) that the Facsimile Autograph on the card is also in a different spot? It appears that way, but I rarely crack more than a box because my brain doesn't function properly when looking for the good stuff!

Edit - doh, looked through many of the examples, maybe 50% of the auto's are a different font, location, size or sig altogether. Definitely not something to use to find ALL variations... Answered my own question, haha

TarjetasBéisbol · 03-10-2016, 01:19 PM

I haven't even busted my second case nor have I had time to go through the case I already busted. Thanks everyone for posting the information as it becomes available.

houstonrules51 · 03-10-2016, 01:21 PM

I have a stupid question - does a master set include the gum stained and action variations or just 1-500 + flashbacks, then and now and new age performers?

03-09-2016, 03:35 PM	#901
jjk10 Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 165 jjk10	Just pulled a throwback that I haven't seen yet #337 Yordano Ventura Attached Thumbnails

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03-09-2016, 05:23 PM	#910
brentandbecca Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 5,441 brentandbecca	I continue to research 2013-2015 color swaps, retro logo, action and wonder why I ever sell a single one of these other than the first 24-48 hours lol I realize commons rarely increase like harper, trout, jeter but man, even common color swaps from last year are $25 (not heritage high) or david ortiz sold $72 or cabrera $50-$60 I mean color swaps can be had for $10 now actions don't quite see the increase especially on the lower tier, but even commons are at $8-$12 on older action sp; that's better than they are now I realize this is not news or a new thing, just hard for to think of holding that many for later and of course if trout or harper have bad year or get hurt, then you have that risk, but surely they won't ever be any lower than right now, lol __________________ Brent Twitter: @brentandbecca eBay: brentandbecca

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Bhenry4 Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Charm City Posts: 13,993 bhendu1	Shocked on the actions. Thought that I was getting a good deal buying 10 Mannys for $10 on average. __________________ Viva John Ryno

03-09-2016, 08:31 PM	#914
Chaysr20 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 2,401 chay_20	Thank to everyone contributing in this thread. I had already put together base sets ready to ship from my retail break but hadn't really checked for errors because it was just that...retail. Well, the posts here of retail errors inspired me and sure enough, the first set I went through had the "Frank" Liriano Error __________________ Juan Soto Is The Way If you quote a troll, you become a troll. Stop it. Show me your Serial Numbered #22 or #222/xxx cards!

03-09-2016, 09:13 PM	#915
pokedextcg Banned Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 213	That is worst then the Senators variation I picked up a couple of years ago for $10 then resold it to Brent who I am sure also resold it lol. I couldnt believe when I saw the BIN on that, I couldn't pay fast enough.

03-09-2016, 11:45 PM	#920
parkerj33 Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Manlius, NY Posts: 1,864 Parker_Cards	Brent if you need panels I have nearly a full set. Pm me.

03-10-2016, 12:31 PM	#923
cyndeeg3 Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 2,775 cyndeeg3 cyndeeg3	Thanks Brent for sharing this info! Your two tweets made life about 100x easier to spot the errors/variations/etc - this is the kinda info the hobby needs! 2016 Topps Heritage Baseball Variations Gallery, Checklist Would it be fair to say that on all (or very close to it) that the Facsimile Autograph on the card is also in a different spot? It appears that way, but I rarely crack more than a box because my brain doesn't function properly when looking for the good stuff! Edit - doh, looked through many of the examples, maybe 50% of the auto's are a different font, location, size or sig altogether. Definitely not something to use to find ALL variations... Answered my own question, haha __________________ <-------COMC lowest prices on the site on 90% of my items listedt Last edited by cyndeeg3; 03-10-2016 at 12:36 PM.

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TarjetasBéisbol Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: NOVA Posts: 10,891	I haven't even busted my second case nor have I had time to go through the case I already busted. Thanks everyone for posting the information as it becomes available. __________________ De oppresso liber - RLTW "The Mexicans taught me that trick", "Let me be very clear, crystal clear"

03-10-2016, 01:21 PM	#925
houstonrules51 Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,556 houst-ji	I have a stupid question - does a master set include the gum stained and action variations or just 1-500 + flashbacks, then and now and new age performers? __________________ DODGERS ALL THE WAY!!! Looking to Buy 15 Bowman Jordan Luplow Red/Orange/Gold Autos!