Is this really CGC 9.8..

[marino13]

... with a writing on the top left corner (above the Spider-man logo)?





Or did they just didn't care for the writing on the cover?


Some CGC experts please explain this ....

[jam92102]

Subscribing out of curiosity myself. I'm assuming this is a miss on their part? If that was a card being graded no way would it grade high.

[jb1873]

is a 9.8 basically equivalent to a 9.5 in cards?

[drummer]

Thats a little strange...

[jam92102]

Originally Posted by jb1873

is a 9.8 basically equivalent to a 9.5 in cards?

That's my assumption but no clue

[Texans81]

Originally Posted by jb1873

is a 9.8 basically equivalent to a 9.5 in cards?

yeah pretty much...

[N3XTLVL]

Is that a new or old slab,is this a ebay sale, would it have been a ten without the scribble, is it noted 9.8 with light scribble.

[marino13]

I was looking through for any 9.8 - Amazing Spiderman, X-Men, Fantastic Four and Avengers (1960's series), and this just stop me from looking further.

Any scribble on it would be a down grade, right? Unless it is "Signature Series Label".

Maybe, this is one of those "switched" book?

Only reason why I say that, with CGC as big as they are (along with their outrageous fees and their turn around time), mistake like this should NOT happened.

[pjray55]

I don't know what exactly that is (it looks like initials to me) but date stamps and notations are allowed but I have no idea if this should or shouldn't qualify as such.

[marino13]

These two looked legit 9.8, but not the first one ...

[John91C]

I don't know the official cut off date but I know writing and date stamps are not supposed to affect the grade. There are rules but I don't know them, go to the cgc forums and as a cgc rep.

[marino13]

Originally Posted by John91C

I don't know the official cut off date but I know writing and date stamps are not supposed to affect the grade. There are rules but I don't know them, go to the cgc forums and as a cgc rep.

Wait --- there are different rules apply to different period of books?

And writing doesn't affect the grade of the book, except the conditions of the book? That doesnt sound right!

So, if someone's kid initialed over the same cover, this would fall under the same "exception" to the rules?


PS. If you can ask a CGC rep, that would be great. I might not want to go there and offend a bunch of "follow religiously" CGC's "whatever I say go" rules and exceptions and so forth.

[pjray55]

Originally Posted by marino13

Wait --- there are different rules apply to different period of books?

And writing doesn't affect the grade of the book, except the conditions of the book? That doesnt sound right!

So, if someone's kid initialed over the same cover, this would fall under the same "exception" to the rules?


PS. If you can ask a CGC rep, that would be great. I might not want to go there and offend a bunch of "follow religiously" CGC's "whatever I say go" rules and exceptions and so forth.

Yes on different rules for different periods and this goes beyond CGC. Date stamps and star stamps were common back then but a stamp on a modern book wouldn't fly because it isn't done any longer. A kid with a crayon writing isn't going to fly. The stamp or mark can't take away from the book. Again, I don't know enough to give you more info than that.

[Morgoth]

I would be more worried about the lower left corner chipping

[J.MEISTER]

Just out of curiosity, have any of you ever read the fine print in the back of the CGC label?

First column, second sentence.. Thats what youre paying for.
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[wheeler281]

Originally Posted by J.MEISTER

Just out of curiosity, have any of you ever read the fine print in the back of the CGC label?

First column, second sentence.. Thats what youre paying for.
http://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net...ge/2803049.jpg

Yes. Whats the question?

[JMPKCP]

I think he meant the third sentence.

If there is an obvious mistake they'll regrade free of charge....which no one would want to do with this one.

[cmixer]

Also, if a comic book has an arrival date, it cannot be a file copy

Just like a Date Stamp:

[marino13]

I will leave this "My opinion is final and if you think I am wrong, see the disclaimer on the back of the valuable label" .....

.... A fool and his money are soon parted ....


Somehow, this remind me of all the mortgage scams in years past and how many lost their home because of it. Now this scheme triggering down to collectibles market - I wonder how long it would take for collectors to realize the #@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@ with "paying third party opinion" - not to mention a costly opinion at that.

I would rather throw my money at Original Arts or Sketched cover, instead of donating to "It's my opinion and it's final" BS.

[wheeler281]

Originally Posted by marino13

I will leave this "My opinion is final and if you think I am wrong, see the disclaimer on the back of the valuable label" .....

.... A fool and his money are soon parted ....


Somehow, this remind me of all the mortgage scams in years past and how many lost their home because of it. Now this scheme triggering down to collectibles market - I wonder how long it would take for collectors to realize the #@#@#@#@#@#@#@#@ with "paying third party opinion" - not to mention a costly opinion at that.

I would rather throw my money at Original Arts or Sketched cover, instead of donating to "It's my opinion and it's final" BS.

So others are fools because you do not do it. It is not costly at all to grade. You seem to be out of touch.

[marino13]

Originally Posted by wheeler281

So others are fools because you do not do it. It is not costly at all to grade. You seem to be out of touch.

I might be out of touch with all the "Valuable third party opinion" scams because I value my hard earned money - if anything, I would rather "making it rain" on a 21-year old chic at a strip club who trying to get her college education ... before I tossed any to these "valuable opinion".

There are tons of these third party out there ... thanks but no thanks.


So, if "fools" want to pay for what it worth him -- then by all means. You can spend your money anyway you wish.

[wheeler281]

Originally Posted by marino13

I might be out of touch with all the "Valuable third party opinion" scams because I value my hard earned money - if anything, I would rather "making it rain" on a 21-year old chic at a strip club who trying to get her college education ... before I tossed any to these "valuable opinion".

There are tons of these third party out there ... thanks but no thanks.


So, if "fools" want to pay for what it worth him -- then by all means. You can spend your money anyway you wish.

You are so bitter lol. Yet you have no idea what you are posting. Please find me all these 3rd party graders you speak of.
How are they fools if they can spend minimal amount of money and get a return? Seems like simple economics. FYI going around the forum filter is not needed and is not recommended.

[marino13]

Originally Posted by wheeler281

You are so bitter lol. Yet you have no idea what you are posting. Please find me all these 3rd party graders you speak of.
How are they fools if they can spend minimal amount of money and get a return? Seems like simple economics. FYI going around the forum filter is not needed and is not recommended.

Bitter?

Not even close.

I was bitter when I couldn't get my hands on Adam Hughes original arts because he was sick and has to cancelled NYCC '15 -- I ended up spending his money with Frank Cho's original arts and this instead ...



The postmark with the stamp -- the date the book was released .... NOT the B S that CGC has "First day of issue Release" wording on the label. When I asked what proof do you have that it was from the first day as mentioned? And if there are demand for it, what stopping you from generate more?

And the best reply I got -- "We are not getting into that conversation."



... Real bitter I tell you!

And the best part, when I picked this up --- there was a CGC eyewitness there waiting on other fans --- he chirped "You should send it in".

"I would rather spend my money on stripper before I send it in"....

[N3XTLVL]

A stripper ,lol either you are in your twenties or you havent gotten any in a long time. Wasting money on no return is crazy. Now i will say im not the biggest fan of cgc as i think the rates are a little high but you can also just send in a book for no grade just the case which on my opinion looks great for display. I still to this day will not give a number grade on a book i refer to the nm,fine,vf grading system i grew up on. Marino you like myself seem to be a collector ,and when you are in the hobby just to collect i also find it hard to understand grading a book unless ita for profit. And since i dont really sell i havent a need . although as i approach my 40's and my kids get older i do find it a good idea to grade my older keys as to if i die i have a cgc record of my books along with whoever gets my books when i die they can sell a lot easier . so in the long run yes its a great idea,if you just collect not so much. And please refrain from name calling everyone here are stand up guys we dont need and salt wounds.

[wheeler281]

Are you trying to impress someone? That really doesnt do it. Seems just a deflection of my questions.

I think if you say the stripper line one more time you get cookie