Deflection: Robles and Albies?

Walt Altmen · 05-01-2019, 07:24 PM

Isn’t the art of magic in deflection? While everyone’s looking at Soto and Acuna, should we be making the Robles and Albies cards disappear instead? Dudes are throwing up the same numbers and actually playing tonight. Hitting and scoring too.

premium1981 · 05-01-2019, 07:42 PM

Making the Robles and Ablies cards disappear instead? What does that mean? Both of those guys are solid contributors. Neither will be able to hold a candle to their teammates though.

ThoseBackPages · 05-01-2019, 07:44 PM

baseball good and baseball card good are not one in the same

Walt Altmen · 05-01-2019, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by premium1981

Making the Robles and Ablies cards disappear instead? What does that mean? Both of those guys are solid contributors. Neither will be able to hold a candle to their teammates though.

Not trying to be cryptic here. I meant just what I said. Making them disappear. Similar to the Heritage Action Acuna cards that were mentioned in his thread. Similar to the Soto red update cards mentioned in his thread. Vanished, gone, caput. Nothing available on enay.

Vladdy Jr · 05-01-2019, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Walt Altmen

Isn’t the art of magic in deflection? While everyone’s looking at Soto and Acuna, should we be making the Robles and Albies cards disappear instead? Dudes are throwing up the same numbers and actually playing tonight. Hitting and scoring too.

Absolutely! You should always make drastic decisions when analyzing the month of April. Better yet, see who does better on Thursday and then make your decision.

LCM1223 · 05-01-2019, 08:08 PM

Is your name Walt Altmen?

SirTommyWinAlot · 05-01-2019, 08:09 PM

Good players but it's Juanny vs. Ronald for the next 12 years.

Walt Altmen · 05-01-2019, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

baseball good and baseball card good are not one in the same

I understand this fully. But even and eventually Jerome Walton faded back under Mark Grace’s grace, right?

StraWMyerS · 05-01-2019, 08:10 PM

I don't know about everyone else, but I'm targeting the 2 you mentioned at the prices they are at relative to performance. There just isn't that much seperation statistically to justify paying 10x more for the big names right now, and they could easily come back to earth with a bad month or two, presenting a better buying opportunity anyway.

ThoseBackPages · 05-01-2019, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Walt Altmen

I understand this fully. But even and eventually Jerome Walton faded back under Mark Grace’s grace, right?

yes, he and Dwight both

Walt Altmen · 05-01-2019, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SirTommyWinAlot

Good players but it's Juanny vs. Ronald for the next 12 years.

Zen master says “We’ll see”.

ucLAkers · 05-01-2019, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LCM1223

Is your name Walt Altmen?

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Pretty cool name to just say at the end of every conversation....

Walt Altmen Out!

Walt Altmen · 05-01-2019, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

yes, he and Dwight both

Cheese and crackers! I forgot all about Dwight. But sort of helps my point.

After all, how many guys in the history of any sport (baseball, football, hockey, basketball) that go #1 or are the most hyped end up becoming the best of the best? Not many. 9.99 times out of 10, it’s the darkhorse not the hyped.

Walt Altmen out!

JrFinest · 05-01-2019, 08:16 PM

I've been buying Albies at low prices for awhile. Not concentrating on him ,but he certainly has a spot in my Braves collection.

Kids overshadowed but really good in his own right.

Walt Altmen · 05-01-2019, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Vladdy Jr

Absolutely! You should always make drastic decisions when analyzing the month of April. Better yet, see who does better on Thursday and then make your decision.

Aren’t you the guy that thought Cal Ripken, Jr. was the guy on ‘89 Fleer FF error card? Serious question.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=1789

Walt Altmen · 05-01-2019, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by StraWMyerS

I don't know about everyone else, but I'm targeting the 2 you mentioned at the prices they are at relative to performance. There just isn't that much seperation statistically to justify paying 10x more for the big names right now, and they could easily come back to earth with a bad month or two, presenting a better buying opportunity anyway.

Thank you. This was what I was sort of getting at. Not taking away from Acuna or Soto. I was just trying to ascertain if buying in on these two young guys who are putting up eerily similar numbers might be a good call. The fact that most are all in on Acuna or Soto further tells me that Robles and Albies might be a good call value wise.

Vladdy Jr · 05-01-2019, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Walt Altmen

Thank you. This was what I was sort of getting at. Not taking away from Acuna or Soto. I was just trying to ascertain if buying in on these two young guys who are putting up eerily similar numbers might be a good call. The fact that most are all in on Acuna or Soto further tells me that Robles and Albies might be a good call value wise.

You already provided the answer, pal. The only thing that will spoil your plan is injury. You can’t compare the “value” between the two groups.

Walt Altmen · 05-01-2019, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Vladdy Jr

You already provided the answer, pal. The only thing that will spoil your plan is injury. You can’t compare the “value” between the two groups.

No, I had to go back and look. Then edit and add. But being that the answer was a “yes” you will have to please pardon me if I look elsewhere for solid card advice. Thank you for your contribution though.

And in fact, I can compare values. It’s pretty easy, actually. It’s even easier to ascertain said value when the stats are comparable between all 4. The one thing I do not see that often in the Trout, Mantle or Jordan threads are the guys quoting themselves from back in the day then stating “Just got my new G6” or “Wrecked my 3rd Lambo this month”. Why? Guessing the likes of Dustin Ackley, Billy Johnson and Sam Bowie.

Vladdy Jr · 05-01-2019, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Walt Altmen

No, I had to go back and look. Then edit and add. But being that the answer was a “yes” you will have to please pardon me if I look elsewhere for solid card advice. Thank you for your contribution though.

Walt Altmen Out!

Thank you. I will comment but I’ve learned quickly not to give advice in these forums.

WalterAZ31 · 05-01-2019, 09:06 PM

definitely NOT a PBM....

Walt Altmen · 05-01-2019, 09:14 PM

Are you referring to me? And what is a PBM?

LCM1223 · 05-01-2019, 09:21 PM

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And what is a PBM?

Woop there it is

ThoseBackPages · 05-01-2019, 09:25 PM

i love when the PBMs FITE!

Walt Altmen · 05-01-2019, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LCM1223

Woop there it is

There what is? Real intelligent conversation here. Guess that makes you a PFDBM.

LCM1223 · 05-01-2019, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Walt Altmen

There what is? Real intelligent conversation here. Guess that makes you a PFDBM.

PBMs always ask what a PBM is

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Walt Altmen Banned - PBM Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Mt. Pleasant, SC Posts: 64	Deflection: Robles and Albies? Isn’t the art of magic in deflection? While everyone’s looking at Soto and Acuna, should we be making the Robles and Albies cards disappear instead? Dudes are throwing up the same numbers and actually playing tonight. Hitting and scoring too.

05-01-2019, 07:42 PM	#2
premium1981 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 11,456	Making the Robles and Ablies cards disappear instead? What does that mean? Both of those guys are solid contributors. Neither will be able to hold a candle to their teammates though.

05-01-2019, 08:09 PM	#7
SirTommyWinAlot Banned Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Gillette Stadium/Foxboro Posts: 6,545	Good players but it's Juanny vs. Ronald for the next 12 years.

05-01-2019, 08:10 PM	#9
StraWMyerS Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Clifton Park, NY Posts: 3,144 jnrmint511	I don't know about everyone else, but I'm targeting the 2 you mentioned at the prices they are at relative to performance. There just isn't that much seperation statistically to justify paying 10x more for the big names right now, and they could easily come back to earth with a bad month or two, presenting a better buying opportunity anyway.

05-01-2019, 08:16 PM	#14
JrFinest Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,117 jrfinest_cards	I've been buying Albies at low prices for awhile. Not concentrating on him ,but he certainly has a spot in my Braves collection. Kids overshadowed but really good in his own right.

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WalterAZ31 Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 8,268	definitely NOT a PBM....

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Walt Altmen Banned - PBM Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Mt. Pleasant, SC Posts: 64	Are you referring to me? And what is a PBM?