So ACUNA is the closest to TROUT potential. Who is the next ACUNA?
 

Everyone is trying to find the next MIKE TROUT.. some say maybe RONALD ACUNA.. at least price wise Acuna card values have gone way high. For many already priced out..
So which of these young players has the best chance to be the next ACUNA?

At least hobby potential wise..
Easier to catch an Acuna than a TROUT

*if your guy isnt listed its because
A) already to expensive WANDER FRANCO
B) too old LUIS ROBERT 22 years old
C) already hated by the hobby KEVIN MAITAN
D) doesnt have cards JASSON DOMINGUEZ

If not listed, plz name who (21 and under)

Where is your contribution:coffee:

Harper

...or maybe Bryant???

but definitely Ohtani!

I love these threads

It’s Robert from the ChiSox. I don’t care that he is 22.

[QUOTE=ALBASKETBALL;15734236]Where is your contribution:coffee:[/QUOTE]

Top 3 in order

MARCO LUCIANO
KRISTIAN ROBINSON
JULIO RODRIGUEZ

There isn’t a great comp guy that has a statistical track record to back it up. Your biggest contenders all have some weakness as a prospect that would keep them from profiling as an Acuna type talent.

Julio Rodriguez- no speed, closer comp to Soto
Kristian Robinson- has the power and speed but doesn’t have the bat to ball skills. If I was feeling like taking a shot he would probably be my guy.
Jered Kelenic- Feels more like a 20/20 than a 30/30 type of player. Doesn’t have the loud tools of the other.
Marco Luciano- Probably the most complete for a comp as his tools are super loud and he has at a low level shown the ability to hit for avg and power as well as chip in steals.
Jasson Dominguez- Who the hell really knows, no game experience.
Noelvi Marte- it’s only half a season but the profile looks similar to Ronny, probably a step behind Luciano.

So there are your short list of similar upside plays, will any of them reach Acuna’s level at such a young age...probably not. I’d put my flag on Robinson or Luciano at this point if I was looking at premiere athletes with amazing tools.

If you want to look deeper go read up on:
Erik Pena
Alexander Canario

I would not endorse either as having that much upside, but they are both intriguing players who could be in that top 20 prospect space next year (if we have baseball)

Ugh with these topics lol

To answer your question and looking at the names given, a ROY campaign has to be put forth before the better debate starts.

And where were you when everybody says Juan Soto will be the best?

wander franco

Other - Jazz Chisholm :cool:

Luciano.

[QUOTE=chris_ac;15734271]Ugh with these topics lol

To answer your question and looking at the names given, a ROY campaign has to be put forth before the better debate starts.

And where were you when everybody says Juan Soto will be the best?[/QUOTE]

Would be too late once they are rookies..
im saying POTENTIAL.. with still affordable prices and still 21 or under

Luis Robert

Bobby Witt!

Hopefully someone starts a next Soto thread too. We can't let him fall behind.

[QUOTE=Imnottheonly;15734266]There isn’t a great comp guy that has a statistical track record to back it up. Your biggest contenders all have some weakness as a prospect that would keep them from profiling as an Acuna type talent.

Julio Rodriguez- no speed, closer comp to Soto
Kristian Robinson- has the power and speed but doesn’t have the bat to ball skills. If I was feeling like taking a shot he would probably be my guy.
Jered Kelenic- Feels more like a 20/20 than a 30/30 type of player. Doesn’t have the loud tools of the other.
Marco Luciano- Probably the most complete for a comp as his tools are super loud and he has at a low level shown the ability to hit for avg and power as well as chip in steals.
Jasson Dominguez- Who the hell really knows, no game experience.
Noelvi Marte- it’s only half a season but the profile looks similar to Ronny, probably a step behind Luciano.

So there are your short list of similar upside plays, will any of them reach Acuna’s level at such a young age...probably not. I’d put my flag on Robinson or Luciano at this point if I was looking at premiere athletes with amazing tools.

If you want to look deeper go read up on:
Erik Pena
Alexander Canario

I would not endorse either as having that much upside, but they are both intriguing players who could be in that top 20 prospect space next year (if we have baseball)[/QUOTE]

True.. though Acuna started of somewhere so all im saying is potential to jave the hobby love he has gotten.
Or at least the closest, without being already priced out or 22 and over

Great post, agree with almost everything

[QUOTE=AlexHunter;15734295]Luis Robert[/QUOTE]

Great player, but in my opinion already too expensive and soon will be 23 without an MLB at bat.. might be too old to be considered the next Acuna

[QUOTE=no10pin;15734305]Bobby Witt!

Hopefully someone starts a next Soto thread too. We can't let him fall behind.[/QUOTE]

How old is Soto.. like 25?
Just kidding lol

[QUOTE=Imnottheonly;15734266]There isn’t a great comp guy that has a statistical track record to back it up. Your biggest contenders all have some weakness as a prospect that would keep them from profiling as an Acuna type talent.

Julio Rodriguez- no speed, closer comp to Soto
Kristian Robinson- has the power and speed but doesn’t have the bat to ball skills. If I was feeling like taking a shot he would probably be my guy.
Jered Kelenic- Feels more like a 20/20 than a 30/30 type of player. Doesn’t have the loud tools of the other.
Marco Luciano- Probably the most complete for a comp as his tools are super loud and he has at a low level shown the ability to hit for avg and power as well as chip in steals.
Jasson Dominguez- Who the hell really knows, no game experience.
Noelvi Marte- it’s only half a season but the profile looks similar to Ronny, probably a step behind Luciano.

So there are your short list of similar upside plays, will any of them reach Acuna’s level at such a young age...probably not. I’d put my flag on Robinson or Luciano at this point if I was looking at premiere athletes with amazing tools.

If you want to look deeper go read up on:
Erik Pena
Alexander Canario

I would not endorse either as having that much upside, but they are both intriguing players who could be in that top 20 prospect space next year (if we have baseball)[/QUOTE]

Can I ask what makes you think Kelenic feels more like a 20/20 guy? He already
did 23/20 across 3 levels in 440 at bats. Think he has as good a shoot as anyone not named Robert to be at least a 30/30 player. Robert went from no homers to being a monster. Trout didn’t hit over 10 homers in the minors but his speed and contact were loud. No one really knows on these things.

So ACUNA is the closest to TROUT potential. Who is the next ACUNA?
 

Marco Luciano
Julio Rodriguez
Jarred Kelenic
Kristian Robinson

in that order.

[QUOTE=BeastMode27;15734360]Can I ask what makes you think Kelenic feels more like a 20/20 guy? He already
did 23/20 across 3 levels in 440 at bats. Think he has as good a shoot as anyone not named Robert to be at least a 30/30 player. Robert went from no homers to being a monster. Trout didn’t hit over 10 homers in the minors but his speed and contact were loud. No one really knows on these things.[/QUOTE]

I didn’t say that I know but it’s what I would lean towards. 20/27 on steals isn’t bad and with his body type the speed is something he won’t necessarily grow out of like some of the larger body players. However no scout is grading Kelenic as a 70 speed guy, which you need to be in this day and age to steal 30+ bases. The power I’ll concede could be 30HR power but most of what I’ve seen is that the raw power isn’t outstanding, but that he is such a sound hitter that he has punished lower levels. Don’t think it’s really insulting to say a guy is a .290/20/20 or 25/15 type.

Kinda risky money betting on the SF Giants to develop a position player to be ROY in Luciano :) Posey has flamed out quite a bit in terms of hobby value...then again, he started as a pro out of college and plays a tough position in terms of hobby value.

[QUOTE=BeastMode27;15734360]Can I ask what makes you think Kelenic feels more like a 20/20 guy? He already
did 23/20 across 3 levels in 440 at bats. Think he has as good a shoot as anyone not named Robert to be at least a 30/30 player. Robert went from no homers to being a monster. Trout didn’t hit over 10 homers in the minors but his speed and contact were loud. No one really knows on these things.[/QUOTE]

I already have Kelenic penciled in as "Ted Williams with abs"...so not the next Ronnie imo.

Acuna is definitely not the closest to Trout. Trout is a universe ahead of Acuna. It's a crime to compare the two as hitters...

Acuna's OPS first two seasons, with his home field being a hitter's park:
2018: .918(14th in MLB)
2019: .882(46th in MLB)

Trout's OPS first two seasons, with his home field being a pitcher's park:
2012: .963(6th in MLB)
2013: .989(3rd in MLB)

To put it in perspective, the difference between Trout and Acuna's 2nd season in OPS is bigger than the difference between Acuna and Teoscar Hernandez in 2019

It's as much of a crime to compare them all around as well:
In his first two seasons Acuna had 9.3 WAR in 1202 ABs and Trout had 20.3 WAR in 1345