Basketball investment/collecting question
 

I'm looking to invest in a few specific young players. My question is, for collectors, if I wanted to bulk up on a few cards, is the silver prizm the way to go? Or maybe some rarer prizm cards? Or maybe contenders autos? Thanks for the help!

Silver Prizm and maybe a Blue or Purple Cracked Ice (both are numbered), National Treasures RPA, and Next Day Auto (I think it's from Donruss) would be a few good ones. There are plenty of other options too, but those are definitely a few key pieces.

It's all about the silver prizms baby! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[QUOTE=exclusively_nba;14853089]Silver Prizm and maybe a Blue or Purple Cracked Ice (both are numbered), National Treasures RPA, and Next Day Auto (I think it's from Donruss) would be a few good ones. There are plenty of other options too, but those are definitely a few key pieces.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the help! Wouldn't have even thought of those next day autos!

Gold Prizms /10

[QUOTE=jcardstore;14853124]It's all about the silver prizms baby! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$[/QUOTE]

Sounds good to me!

[QUOTE=mk6283;14853127]Gold Prizms /10[/QUOTE]

Definitely a good option.Thanks!

Below is what I would aim for if you are looking at an investment point of view.

Prizm or Optic for their BASE NON-AUTO RC investments

Auto RCs (in the following order..just my opinion):
National Treasures
Next Day
Contenders
Immaculate
Flawless

Everything else that are RC autos would be just icing on the cake.

Optic holos.

Their day is coming, the Prizm fanbois can get upset about it all they want.

Prizm silver pop:
[IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48301398847_75c3a36055.jpg[/IMG]

Optic holo pop:
[IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48301398867_91ecb297a0.jpg[/IMG]

National Treasures RPA, Prizm Silver or anything under /100, on card autos.


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[QUOTE=mk6283;14853127]Gold Prizms /10[/QUOTE]

BLASPHEMY, how could you suggest something so rational!

Logomans or dont even try

If its a lower end player I say go for cracked ice, blue being my fav. They tend to dry up faster and them being limited to 99 will save you once/if the Silver obsession dies down. In my personal opinion, they just aren't as limited as they once were and that kills the fun out of it. You can buy a Donovan Mitchell Silver or Jayson Tatum Silver no problem right now, they're always up for sale, same with Luka and Trae Young.

If you're buying a high end player then I'd go with Silver, you'll likely flip those much sooner so you won't have to worry about sitting on them for too long.\

2015 and under, Silver is fine.
2016 and above, Cracked Ice.

[QUOTE=BigSeph;14853214]Optic holos.

Their day is coming, the Prizm fanbois can get upset about it all they want.

Prizm silver pop:
[IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48301398847_75c3a36055.jpg[/IMG]

Optic holo pop:
[IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48301398867_91ecb297a0.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

They're def more limited, but the set just isn't as popular. Optic White Sparkle could be just as limited as Prizm's, but the price doesn't reflect that. Immaculate could be just as limited as NT, but again the price doesn't reflect that. It's more to it than rarity, it's about market adoption, box price, and history.

Topps chrome wasn't as rare as say Bowman Chrome back in the day, but that didn't stop Bowman Chrome from losing.

[QUOTE=KeenanRIVALS;14853392]They're def more limited, but the set just isn't as popular. Optic White Sparkle could be just as limited as Prizm's, but the price doesn't reflect that. Immaculate could be just as limited as NT, but again the price doesn't reflect that. It's more to it than rarity, it's about market adoption, box price, and history.

Topps chrome wasn't as rare as say Bowman Chrome back in the day, but that didn't stop Bowman Chrome from losing.[/QUOTE]

Not going to rehash the logic behind comparing Donruss Optic to Topps Chrome again.

The longer it takes people to figure out, the more I can accumulate on the cheap. This was a thread about "bulking up" on cards of certain players. If you can get the long-term winner at a discount to today's flavor of the month, then you could buy more within your budget constraints.

So that's my advice, people are free to take it or leave it.

[QUOTE=BigSeph;14853214]Optic holos.

Their day is coming, the Prizm fanbois can get upset about it all they want.

Prizm silver pop:
[IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48301398847_75c3a36055.jpg[/IMG]

Optic holo pop:
[IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48301398867_91ecb297a0.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Wowza

Depends on what you consider "investing". Is it short or long term? Short term, Prizm silver rc's can be a good money maker throughout the season. Long term, I think quantity is going to hurt you outside of short print years like 12-13. This last season there was 5,000+ silver prizms produced. Unless you're buying a guy who turns into a generational player, long term ROI probably isn't there on silvers anymore. Best to go with tried and true actual short print parallels like mojo /25 or gold /10.

I don't invest in cards myself, but if I did I would be buying guys I actually like and follow. The closer you can follow a player the more prepared you'll be when it's time to move their stuff.

[QUOTE=BigSeph;14853214]Optic holos.

Their day is coming, the Prizm fanbois can get upset about it all they want.

Prizm silver pop:
[IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48301398847_75c3a36055.jpg[/IMG]

Optic holo pop:
[IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48301398867_91ecb297a0.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Shhh.... don't say anything! I'm trying to pick up some Trae Young Optic Holo Autographs myself. lol

But yes, point well taken! ;)

[QUOTE=BigSeph;14853214]Optic holos.

Their day is coming, the Prizm fanbois can get upset about it all they want.

Prizm silver pop:
[IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48301398847_75c3a36055.jpg[/IMG]

Optic holo pop:
[IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48301398867_91ecb297a0.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

that would be great!

scary that 2017 Blasters are down to $7 now

[QUOTE=ThoseBackPages;14853512]that would be great!

scary that 2017 Blasters are down to $7 now[/QUOTE]

Last years rookie class (Luka, Trae, Ayton, Jaren Jackson, etc, etc) was much stronger in my opinion than the 2017-18 season (Tatum, Ball, Kuzma)? Maybe it has to do with the supply and demand as I haven't seen any 2018-19 basketball at Target or Walmart left over...

I also am a big fan of Optic holo's. Both autos and non autos. Last year Optic was great. Just so you know last year there were roughly 1000 optic holo's (600 hobby and 400 retail) and 5000 prizm silvers. And the good part about the Optic autos is they're on card. Why are they so undervalued? Your guess is as good as mine.

[img]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48302346656_e25e530e41.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Giannis34fan;14853532]Last years rookie class (Luka, Trae, Ayton, Jaren Jackson, etc, etc) was much stronger in my opinion than the 2017-18 season (Tatum, Ball, Kuzma)? Maybe it has to do with the supply and demand as I haven't seen any 2018-19 basketball at Target or Walmart left over...[/QUOTE]

You forgot about Mitchell, Markkanen, Fox, Collins, etc.

2017-18 was the stronger class imo. So many other talented players in it

Too bad Mitchell hasn't signed any of his on card Optic rcs though :(

[QUOTE=eastbayak;14853634]You forgot about Mitchell, Markkanen, Fox, Collins, etc.

2017-18 was the stronger class imo. So many other talented players in it[/QUOTE]

Maybe I just got Luka fever and got sidetracked. lol I think you are right... but we shall see what the better draft class will be in about 5-10 more years? lol :)

[QUOTE=Luni;14853643]Too bad Mitchell hasn't signed any of his Optic rcs though :([/QUOTE]

Didn't realize he was in Donruss Optic too? WOW! Will Panini give something of comparable value back? How long would the wait be... hopefully not as long as the Julio Jones debacle in football... lol :rolleyes: