Topps Finest X-Men ’97– Q1 2025
 

So this will be the First Topps Marvel set to be dropped in the US in years. And X-Men 97 is likely a good product for the card collecting demo.

Will be cool to see the card images soon…

[url]https://www.fanaticsinc.com/press-releases/topps-expands-existing-trading-card-deal-with-disney-consumer-products-to-include-global-disney-pixar-and-marvel-card-rights-continues-existing-global-star-wars-collaboration[/url]

Today, Topps announced a major expansion of their existing overall deal with Disney Consumer Products to include global Disney, Pixar and Marvel trading card rights. New Marvel collectible trading cards will hit retail and hobby shops in Q1 2025 with Topps Finest X-Men ’97, the first time Topps has developed and distributed physical Marvel trading cards globally. Topps will continue their global Star Wars collaboration.

[QUOTE=finfangfan;19618597]So this will be the First Topps Marvel set to be dropped in the US in years. And X-Men 97 is likely a good product for the card collecting demo.

Will be cool to see the card images soon…

[url]https://www.fanaticsinc.com/press-releases/topps-expands-existing-trading-card-deal-with-disney-consumer-products-to-include-global-disney-pixar-and-marvel-card-rights-continues-existing-global-star-wars-collaboration[/url]

Today, Topps announced a major expansion of their existing overall deal with Disney Consumer Products to include global Disney, Pixar and Marvel trading card rights. New Marvel collectible trading cards will hit retail and hobby shops in Q1 2025 with Topps Finest X-Men ’97, the first time Topps has developed and distributed physical Marvel trading cards globally. Topps will continue their global Star Wars collaboration.[/QUOTE]

Is this a finest flashback release?

I would be very interested if it’s using the ‘97 finest design, as I’m a huge fan of that set from baseball and its bronze/silver/gold and embossed refractors. That I would be interested in. If it’s just a regular modern Finest set that is using X-Men 97 characters with cut/paste art, then probably not.

This kind of feels like an odd set to start with. The show seems to be popular but it’s not MCU popular. I don’t see autos from the voice cast (assuming there are autos in the set) being in high demand. I would’ve expected Topps to want to make a big splash with their first Marvel set.

Counter argument: Topps knows there’s going to be a massive amount of Marvel product hitting the market as UD dumps whatever it has left in the pipeline. A smaller set like this, with lower expectations, may be the smart play until things calm down.


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X-Men '97 is probably the most popular Marvel show/movie not named Deadpool 3 since Infinity War/End Game.

And X-Men is still on it's own level with the nostalgia of the cartoon that most of us grew up watching.

They'll bust out the razzle dazzle in hopes people forget about UD's terrible QA/QC Marvel products.

I'm looking forward to this, but I'm not looking forward to the hype cycle.

[QUOTE=1992UDFootball;19618815]X-Men '97 is probably the most popular Marvel show/movie not named Deadpool 3 since Infinity War/End Game.

And X-Men is still on it's own level with the nostalgia of the cartoon that most of us grew up watching.

They'll bust out the razzle dazzle in hopes people forget about UD's terrible QA/QC Marvel products.[/QUOTE]

I had no idea it was so popular. I haven't watched but I've read some positive headlines. And some headlines about the creator/showrunner being fired and lawsuits. So maybe Topps is starting with a set it hopes will be popular. At the very least, it's tied to a recent and ongoing TV show.

Doesn’t matter what sets they put out. If they’re Chrome/Finest they will get pumped by every online retailer, breaker, and influencer. They will have bounties on certain cards in the products to drive the product prices up. Prepare to spend some $$ if you want to open any personal boxes.

Topps Finest X-Men ’97– Q1 2025
 

[QUOTE=csmtampa;19619324]Doesn’t matter what sets they put out. If they’re Chrome/Finest they will get pumped by every online retailer, breaker, and influencer. They will have bounties on certain cards in the products to drive the product prices up. Prepare to spend some $$ if you want to open any personal boxes.[/QUOTE]

If this is the future trajectory of marvel cards, sounds pretty bleak. Good for the investors and flippers or whatever…collectors majorly lose out. I have no interest in paying $750 for a Marvel Chrome box, for many reasons.

[QUOTE=BobCollects;19619269]I had no idea it was so popular. I haven't watched but I've read some positive headlines. And some headlines about the creator/showrunner being fired and lawsuits. So maybe Topps is starting with a set it hopes will be popular. At the very least, it's tied to a recent and ongoing TV show.[/QUOTE]

the new cartoon series, is absolutely fantastic. It pays homage to the original and has great story, pace and characterization imo.
Should watch it!

Brief press release today, looks like late January
[url]https://d23.com/coming-soon-new-collectable-cards-from-topps/[/url]

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This offering & Topps Chrome/Sapphire will go a long way towards making most UD era cards worth more...so, in that regard, I love it :)!

Yea from an art standpoint, it’ll look pretty generic, just using clipped art from the show….very meh for me.

[i]But[/i], if that Jean on the box is a sign of the rest of the set, I’m somewhat interested…as that is a 97 Finest Masters design….from the 97 Finest baseball set which I’m a big fan of. The question is will base look like that or is it just an insert set though. If they do a bronze/silver/gold type deal I’ll probably be drawn in. The box design itself also looks like a retro Finest design, from 96 Finest.

lol..so what are we thinking $500 a box. After upper deck is done im checking out of marvel and looking forward to dc pmgs

"One Refractor Parallel Card Per Box"
Yeah, $500 sounds about right lol

[QUOTE=DynaEtch;19744113]Yea from an art standpoint, it’ll look pretty generic, just using clipped art from the show….very meh for me.

[i]But[/i], if that Jean on the box is a sign of the rest of the set, I’m somewhat interested…as that is a 97 Finest Masters design….from the 97 Finest baseball set which I’m a big fan of. The question is will base look like that or is it just an insert set though. If they do a bronze/silver/gold type deal I’ll probably be drawn in. The box design itself also looks like a retro Finest design, from 96 Finest.[/QUOTE]

I like how they created comic book-style panels for the Wolverine card.

I think the look of these cards will come down to execution. The digital mock-ups don't really convey the physical elements like etching and refractors that were very important to 90s cards.

I think Topps Genesis is the better set from this press release and it hits first (online only though). Looks like this one will likely be a weekly release like the Topps Living stuff.

[QUOTE]First up, Topps Genesis will debut one of the first-ever card sets to spotlight characters from Disney, Pixar, Marvel, and Lucasfilm all in one collection! Keep your eyes peeled for cards featuring Mickey Mouse, Buzz Lightyear, Spider Man, Darth Vader, and more! There’s no end to the magic Topps Genesis has in store for this collection, so don’t miss a moment. Fans can find the first drop of these cards available exclusively on Topps.com beginning early January.

[/QUOTE].

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Also… regarding the X-men set. I think it will do well. And it looks like Topps is trying to also get it into comic book shops as well so I doubt it will be $500 a box as speculated above.

[QUOTE]You’ll find the Topps Finest X-Men ’97 collection in hobby and comic book shops nationwide in late January.[/QUOTE]

So that’s what I think is the biggest change from the move of Marvel from UD to Topps… Topps ability to get cards into more outlets which can expand the audience.

[QUOTE=finfangfan;19744631]I think Topps Genesis is the better set from this press release and it hits first (online only though). Looks like this one will likely be a weekly release like the Topps Living stuff.
[/QUOTE]

Ah really? Gotta disagree there, Genesis looks very generic.

[QUOTE=finfangfan;19744632]Also… regarding the X-men set. I think it will do well. And it looks like Topps is trying to also get it into comic book shops as well so I doubt it will be $500 a box as speculated above.



So that’s what I think is the biggest change from the move of Marvel from UD to Topps… Topps ability to get cards into more outlets which can expand the audience.[/QUOTE]

Not saying it'll be $500 but I don't think it will make much of a difference if it is available in comic-book shops. It will just be one more place people try to get their bite out of the trading card pie with high prices. As cards have expanded to basically everywhere I haven't seen any impact price wise other than them going higher lol

The comic book shops that can't sell these just won't take allocation (my local LCS stopped doing it for Upper Deck Marvel for that reason). The ones that can aren't going to leave money on the table if LCS are selling at a universal price, availability may improve but it just becomes a constant cycle, new place gets allocation, decides to be fair as they are new to this, realize they are underpriced either by selling out immediately or checking prices and see people purchasing those as well, and boom they become same price as everywhere else moving forward.

Like the design of the Finest box, but at 1 parallel per box it tells me the print run is going to the moon.

Price is likely about $200 or a little over, if it's priced like star wars products.

Topps jumped the shark before they even fully received the license when they printed "autograph" cards that were not actual autos. Even the sticker-haters can recognize that a sticker is better than some "Scarlet Witch" printed on trash.

I’m really looking forward to fleer retro DC

[QUOTE=crdbored;19745104]Price is likely about $200 or a little over, if it's priced like star wars products.[/QUOTE]

Don't want to be painted as a Fanatics shill or anything, but SW products have been trending down price wise. Chrome 24 was $99 with guaranteed auto (down from $149 previous year). Chrome Galaxy 24 was $199 with 4 guaranteed parallels (down from $219). And -- both 2024 products were no contest better than the 2023 offerings.

I'd be [I]somewhat[/I] surprised if 97 Finest is priced more than $99/hobby on the Topps onsale.

$99 is fine and I would do a few cases. Just have a very bleak outlook on everything fanatics.

Sw chrome was great at $100

how exactly do I get this direct at Topps when it drops? does it get eaten by bots?

Whatnot put out X-Men 97 comic packs, and they sold out instantly at insanely high prices. This show has a lot of heat behind it. Should be a popular trading card set.

[QUOTE=Rictor;19747370]Whatnot put out X-Men 97 comic packs, and they sold out instantly at insanely high prices. This show has a lot of heat behind it. Should be a popular trading card set.[/QUOTE]

I agree. It’s the perfect set for the card collecting demo and will appeal to collectors in their 30’s and 40s that drive a lot of the hobby. Heck… if Topps has better luck than Upper Deck getting Marvel products more visibility in retail locations then it might even be bought by kids who discovered the show on Disney+.

[QUOTE=finfangfan;19747374]I agree. It’s the perfect set for the card collecting demo and will appeal to collectors in their 30’s and 40s that drive a lot of the hobby. Heck… if Topps has better luck than Upper Deck getting Marvel products more visibility in retail locations then it might even be bought by kids who discovered the show on Disney+.[/QUOTE]
I'd love to see an effort to get more kids interested in trading cards. I'm not sure what exactly Topps can do that Upper Deck didn't do. Most Marvel sets released during the last few years had blaster boxes. Anecdotally, many of them weren't widely available at Target or Walmart (or Barnes & Noble or Meijer or GameStop or wherever else they could or should be). That seems like more of a Target and Walmart issue, not an Upper Deck issue.

It's possible Upper Deck had trouble getting blasters to Excell Marketing or MJ Holdings or whatever distributor stocks Target and Walmart stores, so maybe Topps will have better luck. Based on the Target and Walmart stores closest to me, the collectibles aisles have been steadily downsized over the past year or so. It may not be worth it anymore for the big box stores to devote shelf space to anything other than Pokémon and MTG and Disney Lorcana.

If Topps can get trading cards stocked at Scholastic Book Fairs, that would be huge.

Back to Topps Finest X-Men '97, I think it's going to be big simply because it's the first Topps Marvel set. Probably whatever Topps decided to sell first would do well. The two cards shown in the D23 writeup look like cards for an animated show should look. Personally, I finished rewatching the original X-Men last month and immediately started X-Men '97 which was probably a mistake. The shift in animation and tone was jarring and I couldn't get into X-Men '97 even though it looks dramatically better than the original show.

Topps Finest X-Men ’97– Q1 2025
 

[QUOTE=BobCollects;19747802]
Back to Topps Finest X-Men '97, I think it's going to be big simply because it's the first Topps Marvel set. Probably whatever Topps decided to sell first would do well. The two cards shown in the D23 writeup look like cards for an animated show should look. Personally, I finished rewatching the original X-Men last month and immediately started X-Men '97 which was probably a mistake. The shift in animation and tone was jarring and I couldn't get into X-Men '97 even though it looks dramatically better than the original show.[/QUOTE]

Agree on the 97 show and the animation. It almost looks too clean and polished or something…I like the 90s look better, as odd as that is. Also thought the writing was better in the OG show and voice acting preferable in some cases. A few episodes into the 97 show and it was just all over the place…Mr Sinister, alternate realities and craziness…can’t remember specifics, it’s been awhile. But I kinda tuned out then.

I’m also a total 90s homer so maybe it’s partly nostalgia. But like almost anything- movies or shows- I shouldn’t be surprised something coming out today doesn’t live up to the original classics. In almost all cases with these franchises…they don’t.

As for bringing young people in to the hobby…idk how it’s gonna happen. It is such a hobby focused mostly towards 30-50 year olds at this point (people like me who grew up collecting the OG and best era of marvel cards in the 90s). The prices are often prohibitive. Even a blaster box of 92MM platinum costs $40, never mind hobby boxes. It’s not like the 90s and a kid can go to the store and buy a pack or two of 92 Marvel Masterpieces- things aren’t sold by the pack now, unless it’s epack and kids probably aren’t doing that. Epack is largely for adults gambling for hits etc.

The hallmarks of the 90s, when kids *were* very into marvel cards, were two things: 1. awesome quality (amazing holograms, cool foil tech, great art) and 2. cheap because super mass produced. You also had the x-men animated show around the time every Sat morning and the comic book craze. New x-men animated show not the same as that, on Sat morning cartoons. It’s not must see tv for kids. And comics are probably barely read by kids today (more likely gonna be anime or TPBs etc). We do have MCU/films now (well maybe more 10 years ago than now), but that’s arguably geared to a more grown up audience than a kid watching the x-men cartoon on a Sat afternoon.

[QUOTE=BobCollects;19747802]

If Topps can get trading cards stocked at Scholastic Book Fairs, that would be huge.[/QUOTE]

I remember bookmarks being collected like trading cards in the 90s -- they were popular at Scholastic Book Fairs.

[QUOTE=terrymcginnis;19747270]how exactly do I get this direct at Topps when it drops? does it get eaten by bots?[/QUOTE]

An interesting question. Going to be interesting to see how big the print run is, how much is "available" on Topps and how much ends up at stores.

Topps added some card designs at the end of this article.

[url]https://ripped.topps.com/topps-x-men-marvel-cards-history-culture/[/url]

Some of those backgrounds are kind of terrible, if you ask me. I don't know the history of the Topps Finest brand or if any of the card designs are drawn from past Topps Finest sets.

I like the look of the box and the packs and that's about it lol. At least they have real actor autos and not that Chrome nonsense!

[QUOTE=BobCollects;19753175]Some of those backgrounds are kind of terrible, if you ask me. I don't know the history of the Topps Finest brand or if any of the card designs are drawn from past Topps Finest sets.[/QUOTE]

Yeah these aren’t looking that great to me.

[QUOTE=crdbored;19753150]Topps added some card designs at the end of this article.

[url]https://ripped.topps.com/topps-x-men-marvel-cards-history-culture/[/url][/QUOTE]

Voice actor autos -- awesome. Too bad they're sticker autos, but it's better than nothing.

[QUOTE=crdbored;19753150]Topps added some card designs at the end of this article.

[url]https://ripped.topps.com/topps-x-men-marvel-cards-history-culture/[/url][/QUOTE]


Still no release date on these? Read somewhere on Reddit maybe end of January

[QUOTE=VirtualSuplex;19753646]Still no release date on these? Read somewhere on Reddit maybe end of January[/QUOTE]

The link I posted said “end of January” so who knows.

[QUOTE=BobCollects;19753175]Some of those backgrounds are kind of terrible, if you ask me. I don't know the history of the Topps Finest brand or if any of the card designs are drawn from past Topps Finest sets.[/QUOTE]

The brand, especially in basketball, has had some pretty flashy, rainbow designs. Think Jambalayas from Upper Deck.

[QUOTE=Rictor;19754407]The brand, especially in basketball, has had some pretty flashy, rainbow designs. [b]Think Jambalayas from Upper Deck.[/b][/QUOTE]

That's Topps big problem. Masters, Creators etc. are great cards. Beautiful. Highly collectible. But they flat out don't have the name recognition that Jambalaya & PMG's do, especially in the Marvel world. No MM, no Ultra. Tough sledding.

Plus, while UD did run some of these ideas into the ground(and continue to with Hockey), Topps will do it infinitely worse if we base what they've done with all their sports cards and Star Wars cards. I'm not sure how many people are going to care by the time the 5th Topps Chrome set comes out in a few years. Of course, people will chase low numbered stuff, they always do...but how many Topps Chrome/Finest of the same characters with terrible art are people going to buy?

I hope they bring something to the table other than what's been shown so far. They literally don't even have the US license yet and "1st Topps Chrome" prices are already getting hammered on anything not super low numbered or Wolvie/Spidey etc.

Hope I'm eating my words in a year and they do great things. I just won't hold my breath :)!

I don't hate what I'm seeing here. The '97 art goes pretty well with the old school bold neon Finest style. The inevitable problem will be the price point. I'm guessing $300 per hobby, which would be about triple what I'd pay. Will be in the singles market though.

It’s weird to see people not know about finest, the original chrome card. It’s weird they didn’t call it finest flashbacks and have more finest 97 card designs. But those sketch cards look awesome, set is looking good.

[QUOTE=LittleJimmies;19754490]I don't hate what I'm seeing here. The '97 art goes pretty well with the old school bold neon Finest style. The inevitable problem will be the price point. I'm guessing $300 per hobby, which would be about triple what I'd pay. Will be in the singles market though.[/QUOTE]

I think its gonna be waaaayyyy less than that

[QUOTE=PumpnDumpling;19756091]I think its gonna be waaaayyyy less than that[/QUOTE]

Yea Topps is reasonably priced. Its not Panini Marvel. My completely random guess, being a Topps Direct hobby store owner...100-150 a box.

[QUOTE=armyml;19756127]Yea Topps is reasonably priced. Its not Panini Marvel. My completely random guess, being a Topps Direct hobby store owner...100-150 a box.[/QUOTE]

I'd like to see 99.95 or 109.95 but would be fine with 129.95 via the website (I'll pay as much as $150 per but won't buy the same qty)

My guess is Topps hooks this up, we see secondary go girls gone wild only for topps to casino in (was cash in but autocorrected) on the subsequent sku and ask full secondary

We've only see this exact scenario pan out a couple thousand times so there is room for deviation

They need US to create the BuZz so the sku has legs, a favorable initial offering is all it takes to make this happen

[QUOTE=finfangfan;19744631]I think Topps Genesis is the better set from this press release and it hits first (online only though).
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[IMG]https://d23.com/app/uploads/2024/12/1180w_600h_121924_Topps-New-Collections_01-1024x521.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=finfangfan;19744632]Also… regarding the X-men set. I think it will do well. And it looks like Topps is trying to also get it into comic book shops as well so I doubt it will be $500 a box as speculated above.[/QUOTE]

Revisiting my comments earlier in this thread…. After Genesis did so well when it dropped (5 card boxes now hovering around $500), I wonder if the X-men set will end up having even more buzz than many of us were initially anticipating?

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[QUOTE=finfangfan;19759627]Revisiting my comments earlier in this thread…. After Genesis did so well when it dropped (5 card boxes now hovering around $500), I wonder if the X-men set will end up having even more buzz than many of us were initially anticipating?[/QUOTE]

If Mickey and Darth Vader are in X-Men Finest. And if all cards are numbered. And if the flippers think it's worth flipping.

Then maybe.

[QUOTE=greatgradegrate;19759677]If Mickey and Darth Vader are in X-Men Finest. And if all cards are numbered. And if the flippers think it's worth flipping.

Then maybe.[/QUOTE]

lol… right!

I also think online exclusivity is a component of the secret sauce (along with the property itself and low print run). This X-men set should do well for what it is though.

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This is a nice looking card!

[QUOTE=finfangfan;19759692]lol… right!

I also think online exclusivity is a component of the secret sauce (along with the property itself and low print run). This X-men set should do well for what it is though.[/QUOTE]

Doesn't even need to be low print run if it's done right. 2024 Topps Chrome Star Wars is a good example.

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Has marvel or Disney ever promoted marvel cards from upper deck? Crazy that marvels main social media is promoting this topps set already

[QUOTE=glassofwater;19759797]Has marvel or Disney ever promoted marvel cards from upper deck? Crazy that marvels main social media is promoting this topps set already[/QUOTE]

I always deal feel like Upper Deck operated a very cheap ship and had a harder time promoting the hobby than Topps.

[QUOTE=finfangfan;19760037]I always deal feel like Upper Deck operated a very cheap ship and had a harder time promoting the hobby than Topps.[/QUOTE]

Maybe. If UD spent more on marketing, SRP on boxes would go up. Which means pre-orders and secondary prices would be that much higher. And what have people been complaining about for years? Rising box prices.

People who wanted to collect Marvel knew, for the most part, what was happening. (You have to exclude the last couple of months with uncancelled products and stealth releases.) UD did enough on IG and Facebook which is where many would find out.

Topps just needs to arrive with a bang. Hence showing a 1/1 Wolverine.

(Sorry, I feel like I am always defending UD...)

Anyone with the inside scoop have insight as to when this is gonna go live?

Totally uninformed guesses are also welcome

[QUOTE=PumpnDumpling;19775717]Anyone with the inside scoop have insight as to when this is gonna go live?

Totally uninformed guesses are also welcome[/QUOTE]


It’s supposed to be Q1 2025 right? Is that January-March? I’ll be totally okay with a February release, WWE Topps is about to kick my wallet ass

Seeing topps chrome and topps chrome sapphire marvel

Now seeing what they are doing with baseball in 2024

I really think this product is going to be 350 and would not be shocked if it’s 400 at release

[QUOTE=PumpnDumpling;19775717]Anyone with the inside scoop have insight as to when this is gonna go live?

Totally uninformed guesses are also welcome[/QUOTE]


Topps told hobby shops today it’s still TBD at this time.

[QUOTE=jkampis;19776794]Topps told hobby shops today it’s still TBD at this time.[/QUOTE]

TY Good Sir! Was hoping for a mid/late Jan release but will take it like a manchild whenever i can get it

Checklist?

[QUOTE=JWBlue;19777262]Checklist?[/QUOTE]

It’s Topps so it’s more likely we get the checklist after release then this early.

Is it possible to preorder? I guess with no release date that’s a no?

I’d hate to pay aftermarket prices


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Checklist

[url]https://www.tradercracks.com/2025-topps-finest-x-men-97-trading-cards-checklist[/url]

I feel really sorry for the character collectors of the main X-Men. Several seem to have cards in every subset (and some have multiple base cards).

Cool to see sketchcards, even if they are a tough pull and roughly half or a third of the number of artists in your average UD set.

That's a lot of really big numbers on those odds, feeling very Marvel Masterpieces Platinum. Can't wait to see the price.

For whatever it's worth, quick math say 33,725 boxes.

Assuming 12-box cases, 2 autos per case, 1 sketch every 5ish cases?

I'm hoping this is $99/hobby. I've seen a lot of wild predictions in this thread about the price but I would be surprised if they try for something like $199 or more for what is on offer in this checklist.

[QUOTE=LittleJimmies;19802105]That's a lot of really big numbers on those odds, feeling very Marvel Masterpieces Platinum. Can't wait to see the price.

For whatever it's worth, quick math say 33,725 boxes.[/QUOTE]

Exactly 404,700 packs since the checklist shows the odds for superfractors and the Uncanny subset is 10 cards.

Superfractor Parallels

100 cards.
Cards are 1/1.
Common – 1:8,094 packs
Uncommon – 1:16,188 packs
Rare – 1:26,980 packs
Uncanny Short Prints – 1:40,470 packs

And a side note… I see Ryan Cracknell has a new website with the checklist. It’s nice to see him back!

[QUOTE=LittleJimmies;19802105]That's a lot of really big numbers on those odds, feeling very Marvel Masterpieces Platinum. Can't wait to see the price.

For whatever it's worth, quick math say 33,725 boxes.[/QUOTE]

That is less than half the print run of Platinum H/E combined.....
and with no epack where boxes have to be broken, expect alot more scalping straight up. If you cant get it off the website then prepare to bleed

I’m predicting $120 a box. At that price I’d rip some. If they try to come out at $200+ I’m instant out.

[QUOTE=bub838;19802193]I’m predicting $120 a box. At that price I’d rip some. If they try to come out at $200+ I’m instant out.[/QUOTE]

$120 a box is like $4 million in gross sales. That seems like a pretty good estimate but based on how quickly Genesis sold, they could probably up the price another 10-15% and still have no problem selling through.

Love the different Refractor types used here but the question arises; Will No Protectors Be Peel-able? (doubts but hopeful)

Topps Finest X-Men ’97– Q1 2025
 

Being a fan of the original 97 finest baseball set, I’m pleasantly surprised they did the subsets with common/uncommon/rare theme, with a neat touch of adding uncanny to that (although it’s same odds as rare in some versions, kinda weird). This reminds me of recent MM sets and the 4 tiers. Having a gold refractor for everything including commons is confusing to a 90s collector where rare = gold.

The DA NANANA NAAAA after the music insert is funny

With the clean, great look to these cards and finest branding it’ll be popular, and I expect boxes at least on the secondary market to be pretty high tbh. I also expect fippers and sports crowd to be all over this like bees to honey so expect the prices to escalate indeed. The new era of topps marvel.

Topps Finest X-Men ’97– Q1 2025
 

[QUOTE=PumpnDumpling;19802265]Love the different Refractor types used here but the question arises; Will No Protectors Be Peel-able? (doubts but hopeful)[/QUOTE]

Looks like it’s taking the format of some modern Finest Flashbacks sets in baseball- most cards including all the base are without peel. But there is one special refractor that is with peel, as a small added gimmick.

This is the opposite of 98 Finest baseball where most of the set was with peel and there was a special no-peel parallel. I guess topps doesn’t want to waste materials/effort on making most of the set with-peel these days. Bummer since I’d rather have the whole set with peel.