DCSportscards87 or Probstein for consignment
 

Hi everyone. I'm trying to decide on sending about 300 or so cards valued at around $5-20 for consignment and was wondering who is better to deal with and the better result overall between DCSportscards87 or Probstein123? Thank you

Dc super smooth transaction, send the box they do it all. But I havent used Probstein

I've been buying a lot of cards from DC over the past few months. Never had any issues. As far as selling through them I haven't heard anything negative in comparison to Probstein.

Neither , Ill sell my own. They could careless what your cards sell for and still take their cut.

DCSports by far!!!

I’ve only done consignment once and it was with DC. Very good experience


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COMC - why send it to a consignor if it is only $5-20 cards?

[QUOTE=boxbuster7;18261807]COMC - why send it to a consignor if it is only $5-20 cards?[/QUOTE]

I am currently using COMC but these cards I don't feel like spending the .50 a card and having to price each one and waiting months or longer to sell all of them. Have done great on COMC but the low end cards are slow going that I sent in with the free submissions that were offered at the end of 2021.

Just want to send these where they list them and bod within a week or so and be done with it.

I'm not even sure consigning is worth it now. The seller now has to issue you a 1099 if you meet the $600 threshold. At least that's how I understand it.

I believe consigning was not only used for the hassle-free transactions, but for tax evasion.

[QUOTE=paparoke;18263449]I'm not even sure consigning is worth it now. The seller now has to issue you a 1099 if you meet the $600 threshold. At least that's how I understand it.

I believe consigning was not only used for the hassle-free transactions, but for tax evasion.[/QUOTE]

This is incorrect.

[QUOTE=paparoke;18263449]I'm not even sure consigning is worth it now. The seller now has to issue you a 1099 if you meet the $600 threshold. At least that's how I understand it.

I believe consigning was not only used for the hassle-free transactions, but for tax evasion.[/QUOTE]

dont think this is true

[QUOTE=CoronaBowl LV;18263991]This is incorrect.[/QUOTE]

Right. Far as I understand with COMC store credit is store credit and can be used for any other cards you want on the site. If you cash out and request a check then a 1099 is generated or same if you had them pay you out on Paypal. Otherwise it is store credit and not cashed out.

Not sure how DCSportscards87 does it since have not subbed to them yet.

[QUOTE=jcmel323;18264028]dont think this is true[/QUOTE]

I guess we'll see after this year with the new $600 threshold. When the consignee deducts the payments as deductible expenses, that income has to be passed on to the consignor right? I don't think it was a big deal before as most wouldn't hit the $20K threshold, but with the lower amount, I would think the 1099 would need to be issued to ensure compliance.
[QUOTE=TheOneRingKing;18265439]Right. Far as I understand with COMC store credit is store credit and can be used for any other cards you want on the site. If you cash out and request a check then a 1099 is generated or same if you had them pay you out on Paypal. Otherwise it is store credit and not cashed out.

Not sure how DCSportscards87 does it since have not subbed to them yet.[/QUOTE]

I think COMC is a different animal than Ebay. Ebay doesn't deal in credits.

Using DC for 1st time to try it out & don't want to create a new thread ... My Question is - How lenient are they on the rule "must send cards valued $5 or more or will be sent back to you" - Do they actually send cards back if last completed listings are $3/$4? I'm sending maybe 50-100 cards, don't feel like looking up all comps, a few may be $3-$4 last comps (prob wide range $3-$6). They won't care right?

From the website, seems all I have to do is print submission form - put it in box, and ship it off to them w/ cards. That's it? Nothing to do online or on website?

Random Q too - Do you really have to send all cards in toploaders & sleeves. Have this 1 thick card I don't have a toploader for.

[QUOTE=MavsRChamps;19112367]Using DC for 1st time to try it out & don't want to create a new thread ... My Question is - How lenient are they on the rule "must send cards valued $5 or more or will be sent back to you" - Do they actually send cards back if last completed listings are $3/$4? I'm sending maybe 50-100 cards, don't feel like looking up all comps, a few may be $3-$4 last comps (prob wide range $3-$6). They won't care right?

From the website, seems all I have to do is print submission form - put it in box, and ship it off to them w/ cards. That's it? Nothing to do online or on website?

Random Q too - Do you really have to send all cards in toploaders & sleeves. Have this 1 thick card I don't have a toploader for.[/QUOTE]


I have never had a card returned for being below $5 and have sent a few that ended up that way in auctions. I'd avoid having the majority of the shipment fall in that category if you can.

Your first submission form will log your email address and you'll get a login sent to that email so you can access your account on their site. It is by far the best and most intuitive consignors website I've ever seen.

Toploaders - they do require them as far as I know. If you don't have one large enough how were you going to ship it? If it's not that valuable to of a card I wouldn't bother sending it.

imo if its under 5$ id not send it. i sent a few that didnt meet the 5$ min and they sent them back.

[QUOTE=MavsRChamps;19112367]Using DC for 1st time to try it out & don't want to create a new thread ... My Question is - How lenient are they on the rule "must send cards valued $5 or more or will be sent back to you" - Do they actually send cards back if last completed listings are $3/$4? I'm sending maybe 50-100 cards, don't feel like looking up all comps, a few may be $3-$4 last comps (prob wide range $3-$6). They won't care right?

From the website, seems all I have to do is print submission form - put it in box, and ship it off to them w/ cards. That's it? Nothing to do online or on website?

Random Q too - Do you really have to send all cards in toploaders & sleeves. Have this 1 thick card I don't have a toploader for.[/QUOTE]

I win cards for $1 or $2 from them all the time. I wouldn't send in non-RC paper base and stuff like that, but anything #'d, RC, or 1st Logo of a halfway decent player/prospect should be good. If cards you have doubles of go in lots that will help.

I think their $5 rule is $1 plus $4.75 shipping. They don't want to list a lot of stuff that isn't going to get bids. Their combined shipping rule is the best in the business, so that helps out a ton.

Every card I've ever received from them has come in a toploader. I've got a few thousand extra if you need some....

based on the comments so far it looks like DC is preferred over probstein (I didnt see much love posted here about consigning to probstein) I think I will switch from probstein to DC based on the recommendations here!

[QUOTE=livealoha;19121009]based on the comments so far it looks like DC is preferred over probstein (I didnt see much love posted here about consigning to probstein) I think I will switch from probstein to DC based on the recommendations here![/QUOTE]

Probstein is a joke. Go to his website and see how you even submit cards to him.

Then go to DCs and see how user friendly it is.

Why anyon would ever use probstein is beyond me. How you even submit to him is like some secret he hides. Eff him.

Probstein also has a history of shilling their own listings.

[QUOTE=majestik101;19122024]Probstein also has a history of shilling their own listings.[/QUOTE]

Any consignment seller is going to have shill bidding. There is practically no way for them or ebay to stop it from happening

Thanks to the above for the replies ^^^ I mailed off the package earlier this past week & it got delivered, as noted on the website. Vast majority in $5-$15 range, couple higher. A few have comps all over the place - like $8, $3, $5, $2 ... Others like say a random Demarcus Cousins parallel #ed /25 has no comps ... Cards like that I assume would still be listed. I'll see.

Probstein has the best rates of any consigner, his 5% commission on $1000+ is unbeatable.

Looking at it from just a consignment cost perspective and eBay seller fees chart, I’m not sure why anyone would want to list items themselves on eBay when for basically the same cost you could basically box up your items, send them in and get paid in a couple of weeks without having to deal with scanning, listing, packing, shipping, storage of items, customer emails/questions, returns, scams, etc etc. yes of course you might run into some consignment problems like I did with loss items, etc but I feel OVERALL it’s a lot less stress free process than doing it yourself, especially because your not really paying that much more for someone else to do it. Do you see any “real” benefits of listing on eBay yourself vs sending in for consignment services?

[QUOTE=livealoha;19130011]Looking at it from just a consignment cost perspective and eBay seller fees chart, I’m not sure why anyone would want to list items themselves on eBay when for basically the same cost you could basically box up your items, send them in and get paid in a couple of weeks without having to deal with scanning, listing, packing, shipping, storage of items, customer emails/questions, returns, scams, etc etc. yes of course you might run into some consignment problems like I did with loss items, etc but I feel OVERALL it’s a lot less stress free process than doing it yourself, especially because your not really paying that much more for someone else to do it. Do you see any “real” benefits of listing on eBay yourself vs sending in for consignment services?[/QUOTE]

You can list BIN/BO where those places are auctions.

DCSportscards87 or Probstein for consignment
 

[QUOTE=livealoha;19130011]Looking at it from just a consignment cost perspective and eBay seller fees chart, I’m not sure why anyone would want to list items themselves on eBay when for basically the same cost you could basically box up your items, send them in and get paid in a couple of weeks without having to deal with scanning, listing, packing, shipping, storage of items, customer emails/questions, returns, scams, etc etc. yes of course you might run into some consignment problems like I did with loss items, etc but I feel OVERALL it’s a lot less stress free process than doing it yourself, especially because your not really paying that much more for someone else to do it. Do you see any “real” benefits of listing on eBay yourself vs sending in for consignment services?[/QUOTE]

Some people could just want control over their own listings. Set their own price. How item is described. Quickness of randomly just putting something on ebay, selling it, and getting the money, vs having to go through the process of sending in to consignment. Many sellers have strong reputations and returning customers who buy from them. Personally, I do my own selling. Not sure if there is exactly one reason, but it's probably a combination of all the above for me.

I also do not like the concept of consignment and think it is a huge conflict of interest. People selling anonymously through someone else....seems to be a source of much shadiness throughout the card hobby, when you consider the massive amount of shill bidding going on with this (almost ALWAYS when issues of shill bidding are raised on this forum, it's involving consignment). So with places like PWCC, Probstein, and Goldin etc....yea I dont consider this area a bright shining light of the hobby.

It's unfortunate that there is this trend on ebay for more and more listings being consignment (not even just talking the big ones like COMC, Probstein, or DC Sports, but lesser mid-tier consignment companies that have popped up). For whatever reason, less and less people seem willing to sell their own cards these days, compared to like 10 years ago. I see posts like the below....hmmm is [i]this[/i] why there seems to be trend towards people consigning....makes me wonder. Just how are those sales being reported by people selling through consignment.

[QUOTE=paparoke;18263449]I'm not even sure consigning is worth it now. The seller now has to issue you a 1099 if you meet the $600 threshold. At least that's how I understand it.

I believe consigning was not only used for the hassle-free transactions, but for tax evasion.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CoronaBowl LV;18263991]This is incorrect.[/QUOTE]

DCSportscards87 or Probstein for consignment
 

[QUOTE=shrevecity;19122104]Any consignment seller is going to have shill bidding. There is practically no way for them or ebay to stop it from happening[/QUOTE]

Perhaps, and this is why I think ebay should make some major changes regarding how consignment auctions are done on their site. Id be fine with them scrapping them entirely. Yes shill bidding can still exist outside of it, but I sense it would go down drastically without consignment auctions from the big companies. If consignment companies still need a presence on ebay, let them just run fixed price sales.

But while there may be little the consignment seller can do at first, I argue they can do [i]some[/i] things as a very start, for known shilled items.

Awhile back I found a couple higher end items from Probstein that were being blatantly shilled (and I took this personally because I was bidding on them, apparently was out-competed by a shill bidder). The items were relisted like 4 times, with the same feedback buyer 'winning' multiple times, and then being relisted. Completely, and obviously shilled. I messaged probstein, and their response was they cant really do anything about it....it just happens.

Ok....well why not at the very least block the bidder who is repetitively 'winning' and not paying for the same item over and over. Or better yet, realize this is blatant shilling, and send that item right back to the consignor. It shouldnt be relisted 4 or 5 times. So I disagree with their response they 'cant do anything'. They could have done that.

[QUOTE=livealoha;19130011]Looking at it from just a consignment cost perspective and eBay seller fees chart, I’m not sure why anyone would want to list items themselves on eBay when for basically the same cost you could basically box up your items, send them in and get paid in a couple of weeks without having to deal with scanning, listing, packing, shipping, storage of items, customer emails/questions, returns, scams, etc etc. yes of course you might run into some consignment problems like I did with loss items, etc but I feel OVERALL it’s a lot less stress free process than doing it yourself, especially because your not really paying that much more for someone else to do it. Do you see any “real” benefits of listing on eBay yourself vs sending in for consignment services?[/QUOTE]

Brother, am I mistaken, or was this your thread where we advised you Probstein had stolen from you? And you still kept sending your stuff to him any way?

[URL="https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1567423&highlight=Probstein"]https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1567423&highlight=Probstein[/URL]

What in the actual hell are you doing in here talking about consigning anything?

Nefarious MOFO.

[QUOTE=DynaEtch;19130347]

Awhile back I found a couple higher end items from Probstein that were being blatantly shilled (and I took this personally because I was bidding on them, apparently was out-competed by a shill bidder). The items were relisted like 4 times, with the same feedback buyer 'winning' multiple times, and then being relisted. Completely, and obviously shilled. I messaged probstein, and their response was they cant really dont anything about it....it just happens.

Ok....well why not at the very least block the bidder who is repetitively 'winning' and not paying for the same item over and over. Or better yet, realize this is blatant shilling, and send that item right back to the consignor. It shouldnt be relisted 4 or 5 times. So I disagree with their response they 'cant do anything'. They could have done that.[/QUOTE]

I've listened to about 3 or 4 Probstein interviews over the last few years, and he offers that weak defense without ever being pressed on your point. Is Probstein blocking and reporting that illegal activity? Or pulling the card and returning it. Maybe you can't physically stop it, but you can be aware of the situation and remove yourself.

[QUOTE=Rabs;19130264]You can list BIN/BO where those places are auctions.[/QUOTE]

This^^^

The idea is to buy low (auction) and sell high (BIN). I get 2/3 or more of my inventory from the big eBay consignment accounts.

I used to buy a lot for DSC, but I noticed a lot of items I got were not in great shape. Do you think DSC is a place that people send their “not gradeable” cards to just take them off their hands?

[QUOTE=cholodolo;19130368]Brother, am I mistaken, or was this your thread where we advised you Probstein had stolen from you? And you still kept sending your stuff to him any way?

[URL="https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1567423&highlight=Probstein"]https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1567423&highlight=Probstein[/URL]

What in the actual hell are you doing in here talking about consigning anything?

Nefarious MOFO.[/QUOTE]


yes my brother, that was my thread. HOWEVER, after that thread, I no longer send in to Probstein. but looking at some better run consignment places like DC Sports. I have since learned that probstein is NOT the only game in town. There are other consignment sellers on ebay besides probstein.

[QUOTE=Powell7db;19130944]I used to buy a lot for DSC, but I noticed a lot of items I got were not in great shape. Do you think DSC is a place that people send their “not gradeable” cards to just take them off their hands?[/QUOTE]

Maybe. Back in 2020-2021 when I looked at cards for grading, I'd get roughly the same % buying from DCSports as anyone else. The problem is if I bought a big lot, the whole lot would be garbage or stellar. There was no in between. Then again, that was true for everybody.

I think a lot of people will send their high $ cards for consignment that have been inspected already, but a lot of people also just don't want the hassle of selling on eBay and haven't inspected. It should be obvious that the higher the card's value, the more likely it's already been inspected for grading. Again, true for everybody, not just the big consignment accounts.