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Sportnut08 07-20-2019 05:52 PM

[QUOTE=deemsterz33;14864663]So I should probably hit the BINs on the 15 centered copies sitting at $35-45 on eBay?[/QUOTE]

I have over 200. I won’t stop you :)!

Nice chatting with ya. Gotta save some pumping for #36 tonight.

LoveRookies 07-20-2019 05:56 PM

[QUOTE=dashcol;14864652]His hype started way before that. Every article written about him started “Vladimir Guerrero JR, son on Hall of Famer Vladimir Guerrero....” and some still refer to him as this as he has not made an actual name for himself in the majors.

People expected him to be his father, which he is not.[/QUOTE]

No one reasonably expects him to perform like a HOFer 250 ABs into his career. I'm not saying he's going to inevitably be a HOFer, but intimating that he is a bust or overhyped seems a bit premature, especially if that opinion is based on Jr. not putting up numbers like his father did in the prime of his career.

Also, most articles about 2nd generation pros are going to reference their fathers.

deemsterz33 07-20-2019 05:57 PM

[QUOTE=Sportnut08;14864664]I’m not sure what your agenda is, but you take every possible turn to discredit Yelich, including making up information regarding his market.

I bought a Target Red for $99.99 on 4/10. Chrome Update Gold refractors for $250 on 4/14 and $259 on 4/21. Show me where I can find these for half that price, or when they went for more than they currently do.[/QUOTE]

I don't discredit him, he's a great player. I think the market is all hype and objectively he is a bad buy. This is coming from someone who owns Yelich cards.

Great buys on your April pickups. Higher end stuff tends to hold value, because people are holding longer term and far less are available. To get a better idea of the market as a whole and the supply + demand you need to look at his flagship items like Update and Update Chrome.

deemsterz33 07-20-2019 05:58 PM

[QUOTE=Sportnut08;14864667]I have over 200. I won’t stop you :)!

Nice chatting with ya. Gotta save some pumping for #36 tonight.[/QUOTE]

As I said..... one person's agenda is clear.

Sportnut08 07-20-2019 06:02 PM

[QUOTE=deemsterz33;14864685]As I said..... one person's agenda is clear.[/QUOTE]

I have no agenda. Everything I am sitting on is free money at this point. Of course, I would like them to go up in value. I would also like my hundreds of Dontrelle Willis rookies to go up in value.

rman112 07-20-2019 06:07 PM

[QUOTE=dashcol;14864652]His hype started way before that. Every article written about him started “Vladimir Guerrero JR, son on Hall of Famer Vladimir Guerrero....” and some still refer to him as this as he has not made an actual name for himself in the majors.

People expected him to be his father, which he is not.[/QUOTE]

Of course it's going to be mentioned. But it seems like you're saying he's highly regarded because of his Dad. Like saying Judge is mediocre, it's just silly.

Vlad Sr. came up at 21 and change. He played 9 games. He wasn't a regular until he was 23. Vlad Jr. turned 20 in March.

Noles939913 07-20-2019 06:11 PM

[QUOTE=ucLAkers;14864621]The entire Astros team....[/QUOTE]

I get Bregman kinda seems like a jagaloon not sure on the rest. Ahh I see your username I see why now.

LoveRookies 07-20-2019 06:12 PM

[QUOTE=Noles939913;14864706]I get Bregman kinda seems like a jagaloon not sure on the rest. Ahh I see your username I see why now.[/QUOTE]

All I know is I want more of the Bregman- Bauer feud.

deemsterz33 07-20-2019 06:14 PM

[QUOTE=Sportnut08;14864693]I have no agenda. Everything I am sitting on is free money at this point. Of course, I would like them to go up in value. I would also like my hundreds of Dontrelle Willis rookies to go up in value.[/QUOTE]

If you can get $45-50 per, I'd cash in that $10K! :)!

Noles939913 07-20-2019 06:14 PM

[QUOTE=LoveRookies;14864708]All I know is I want more of the Bregman- Bauer feud.[/QUOTE]

I think Bauer - Cole is the real feud. Those two have hated each other going back to their college days.

LoveRookies 07-20-2019 06:15 PM

[QUOTE=Noles939913;14864714]I think Bauer - Cole is the real feud. Those two have hated each other going back to their college days.[/QUOTE]

I want that to continue, and escalate. Going to back to the OP's question, I love to hate Trevor Bauer.

Sportnut08 07-20-2019 06:19 PM

[QUOTE=deemsterz33;14864711]If you can get $45-50 per, I'd cash in that $10K! :)![/QUOTE]

But then I will do something stupid like invest it in Michael Porter Jr., and he may never set foot on an NBA court :cool:

Sportnut08 07-20-2019 06:26 PM

[QUOTE=LoveRookies;14864717]I want that to continue, and escalate. Going to back to the OP's question, I love to hate Trevor Bauer.[/QUOTE]

Haha. Yes. That is a great feud.

deemsterz33 07-20-2019 06:32 PM

[QUOTE=Sportnut08;14864721]But then I will do something stupid like invest it in Michael Porter Jr., and he may never set foot on an NBA court :cool:[/QUOTE]

Uh oh, time to burn my MJPs haha

I heard that Mantle guy is cool

Corey6729 07-20-2019 06:50 PM

[QUOTE=Davis;14864185]These posts need a “Like” button[/QUOTE]



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teosdesserts 07-20-2019 07:03 PM

[QUOTE=Soxrule111;14864356]Derek Jeter. I just think he is over rated.[/QUOTE]

Came here to say Jeter as well

3AND4 07-20-2019 07:08 PM

Jeter & Eli Manning ( If he has any love LOL).

I would say Brady & Ortiz but are they loved outside New England?

pryantexas 07-20-2019 07:09 PM

[QUOTE=ThoseBackPages;14864249]28, in milwaukee. bleh



Dale Murphy won back to back MVPs, but not many seem to care[/QUOTE]



I agree with TBP here on Yelich

He lacks charisma

Doesn’t mean he isn’t a great player and a great person - just means he doesn’t draw people in the way others do


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Sportnut08 07-20-2019 07:12 PM

[QUOTE=pryantexas;14864841]I agree with TBP here on Yelich

[B]He lacks charisma[/B]

Doesn’t mean he isn’t a great player and a great person - just means he doesn’t draw people in the way others do


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Sure, you’re not talking about Trout?

Rememberthepast 07-20-2019 07:19 PM

New School - Manny Machado
Old School - Barry Bonds

Jericho 07-20-2019 07:27 PM

David Ortiz
José Altuve

AnthonyCorona 07-20-2019 07:31 PM

[QUOTE=Rememberthepast;14864858]New School - Manny Machado

Old School - Barry Bonds[/QUOTE]



Weird seems like everyone hates both


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Sportnut08 07-20-2019 07:33 PM

[QUOTE=Rememberthepast;14864858]New School - Manny Machado
Old School - Barry Bonds[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AnthonyCorona;14864887]Weird seems like everyone hates both


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I like them both :popcorn:

dashcol 07-20-2019 07:40 PM

[QUOTE=rman112;14864700]Of course it's going to be mentioned. But it seems like you're saying he's highly regarded because of his Dad. Like saying Judge is mediocre, it's just silly.

Vlad Sr. came up at 21 and change. He played 9 games. He wasn't a regular until he was 23. Vlad Jr. turned 20 in March.[/QUOTE]

We can agree to disagree on the points of Guerrero JR being Overhyped and Judge being mediocre.

Everyone who claims Judge to be one of the greats ignores the fact that playing baseball at the professional level and playing 165 games a year at that level is one of the most physically demanding sports there is. Your consistency and ability to stay healthy enough to play says a lot about a player. This is why Ripken’s record will never be broken, and why he was the player he was.

It also says a lot that Judge hasn’t been healthy for a full season since 2017. Even then he was injured for part of it, which IMO lowers his ability as a star player.

Also why is it that Judge gets a pass for being injured all the time and everyone says that he is great just wait until he’s healthy, but a player like Buxton gets criticized for being injured?

[QUOTE=AnthonyCorona;14864887]Weird seems like everyone hates both


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Yeah, I probably should have included Bonds as one of my original 4, he ruined baseball for me for such a long time. It is almost like I have blocked him from my memory.

Bassplayah101 07-20-2019 07:43 PM

[QUOTE=dashcol;14864606]I agree, easily the most hated man in sports for me, well between him and Bellicheck.

This is about baseball though, even though I would say that hatred of anything New England transpires all sports. Just think the name brings anger to me![/QUOTE]

I feel you! :)


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