[QUOTE=Sikkcaden;5423904][url]https://twitter.com/arciaoswaldo[/url]

Someone could ask him if its his handwriting, but Im not sure he speaks english/uses twitter enough to respond anytime soon.[/QUOTE]

No habla espanol. I tried to find a checklist for the social media refractors but I couldn't find one. It would be nice if a real one would pop up to compare handwriting, but if he doesn't have any then he wouldn't have added it to this one by "mistake"

Log on to rotoworld and see this on the front page:

Twins recalled OF Oswaldo Arcia from Triple-A Rochester.
The 22-year-old hit .257/.317/.408 with six home runs and 25 RBI in 53 games earlier this season with the Twins. A top prospect, Arcia should receive plenty of playing time. Scoop him up in AL-only leagues if he's available.

I found it ironic lol

The ink color is so completely obviously different...

[QUOTE=adamt326;5423927]No habla espanol. I tried to find a checklist for the social media refractors but I couldn't find one. It would be nice if a real one would pop up to compare handwriting, but if he doesn't have any then he wouldn't have added it to this one by "mistake"[/QUOTE]

[url=http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Bowman-Chrome-Oswaldo-Arcia-Gold-Refractor-2-50-Twins-/290945975596?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item43bdbb452c&nma=true&si=rEvAdg72Xya1TfWNADzhMYJ%252BntI%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557]2011 Bowman Chrome Oswaldo Arcia Gold Refractor 2 50 Twins | eBay[/url]

I assume it would look similar to this.

[IMG]http://i.ebayimg.com/t/2011-Bowman-Chrome-Oswaldo-Arcia-Gold-Refractor-2-50-Twins-/00/s/OTYwWDcyMA==/z/8hgAAMXQhpdR031e/$(KGrHqFHJCUFHSlK8kYUBR031dMmoQ~~60_57.JPG[/IMG]

[QUOTE=TrueNE_09;5423943]The ink color is so completely obviously different...[/QUOTE]

Was thinking the same thing. Like the sig sharpie had been used a little longer then the twitter handle.

So your saying Mike is inscribing his own cards? interesting seeings it is BGS 8

Ok, so think as to why someone would do something like this. If you know Mike, you know he grades cards ... most every card he can (auto and base).

That being said, this Arcia refractor auto is so off center, that he would never grade it. It's easy to see this would come back no better than the grade he received because of the OC LtoR ... so why was it graded by him?

Well, he may have pulled it, saw it and said "I wonder if I can fake an inscription" since the card is of small value. Not unreasonable to think Arcia may have accidentally added a twitter handle to a card, even though he wasn't part of the program, so let's try that AND let's try and get it graded to see if BGS can authenticate such an auto.

So far ... no problem. Had he gotten this card back from BGS and put up a thread about it, and the experience ... I think it would have been very entertaining to read, and to bash BGS for authenticating such a signature. Sadly though, it looks like this went one step further. The second this went on eBay, and was made available for sale takes this to an entirely different level.

Pure conjecture of course / still waiting to hear the defense.

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I wouldn't buy it anyways so if someone who runs a multi million dollar business can do it (BG) why should a independent person do the same..

[QUOTE=Srt42004n;5423971]I wouldn't buy it anyways so if someone who runs a multi million dollar business can do it (BG) why should a independent person do the same..[/QUOTE]

Not understanding your logic here :confused:

[QUOTE=csmtampa;5423976]Not understanding your logic here :confused:[/QUOTE]

My logic is if Brian Gray can " Acquire " fake Bryce harper autos and all is well in the world then if Mike added an Inscription to a card, a card no one will buy anyways then whats the big deal? This OP originally didn't even want to say who it was so with that my care went out the window...

What a d-bag

[QUOTE=csmtampa;5423976]Not understanding your logic here :confused:[/QUOTE]

In one of their football products this year they added inscriptions to cards, but lied saying that the player did the inscriptions, ;)

[QUOTE=Srt42004n;5423989]My logic is if Brian Gray can " Acquire " fake Bryce harper autos and all is well in the world then if Mike added an Inscription to a card, a card no one will buy anyways then whats the big deal? This OP originally didn't even want to say who it was so with that my care went out the window...[/QUOTE]

I didnt want to say who it was until it was confirmed. It was confirmed (in my opinion), so I posted who it was.

I will offer Mike $1. Then I will crack it and wipe the inscription off. And resell it raw for a few bucks. Everyone wins!

[QUOTE=phabphour20;5424018]I will offer Mike $1. Then I will crack it and wipe the inscription off. And resell it raw for a few bucks. Everyone wins![/QUOTE]

Or just trim the side in order to make it more centered, that way an 8 will become a 9. Shazam!

he has perfect feedback,just doesn't make any sense.

[QUOTE=chezball;5424086]he has perfect feedback,just doesn't make any sense.[/QUOTE]

Maybe he's selling for someone else...

He needs to drop in and explain himself.

It says refractor on the label and it's out of 500. It's obviously fake. I'm sure he'll be on here shortly to explain.

[QUOTE=chezball;5424086]he has perfect feedback,just doesn't make any sense.[/QUOTE]

Doesn't make sense indeed. But I'd love to turn a $15 card into a $200 card, too.

[QUOTE=Srt42004n;5423989]My logic is if Brian Gray can " Acquire " fake Bryce harper autos and all is well in the world then if Mike added an Inscription to a card, a card no one will buy anyways then whats the big deal? This OP originally didn't even want to say who it was so with that my care went out the window...[/QUOTE]

So are you saying you condone this, if it is true?

Can someone explain to me what this guy did wrong (what does "inscripting" and "slabbing" mean?).

Sorry I'm new

Don't have time to read all this blabber but it was not slabbed at the national. Anyone with a brain would realize that it's been listed a few days before the show even started

Anyone at the show stop by and see the legendary Arcia

[QUOTE=mikecancelliere;5424149]Don't have time to read all this blabber but it was not slabbed at the national. Anyone with a brain would realize that it's been listed a few days before the show even started

Anyone at the show stop by and see the legendary Arcia[/QUOTE]

That's been mentioned.

[QUOTE=mikecancelliere;5424149]Don't have time to read all this blabber but it was not slabbed at the national. Anyone with a brain would realize that it's been listed a few days before the show even started

Anyone at the show stop by and see the legendary Arcia[/QUOTE]

Yeah...thats been adjusted (See Edit 2)...but I see no denial of it being a fake inscription.