2025 MVP Races

jlzinck · 09-17-2025, 11:31 AM

Ohtani will win even though he has a lower BATTING WAR than Geraldo Perdomo. As we all know Mr Ohtani also hurls the ball at opposing batters

WAR was the crux of the hugely bitter battles here on Blowout in 2012 and 2013 when Troutheads and the members of the Church of WAR swear Trout was ROBBED both years against Miggy for MVP.

It's escalating again this year with Judge and Cal.
Judgeheads and Church of WAR members will say it's a landslide.

Pre WAR era this would be a coin flip.

Today I think it's a pretty comfortable win by Judge

BigMac · 09-17-2025, 11:33 AM

i also think it's ohtani and judge..

seanrs1 · 09-17-2025, 11:39 AM

Your information is not accurate. As of today...
bWAR
Ohtani-7.1
Perdomo-6.6

fWAR
Ohtani-8.5
Perdomo-6.7

hche · 09-17-2025, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by seanrs1

Your information is not accurate. As of today...
bWAR
Ohtani-7.1
Perdomo-6.6

fWAR
Ohtani-8.5
Perdomo-6.7

Yeah, even without pitching. Ohtani fwar is 6.9 and Perdomo is 6.7.

f2tornado · 09-17-2025, 12:02 PM

Ohtani is a near lock at this point. Judge has a 1.9 WAR advantage over Raleigh BUT Trout had a 2.1 advantage over Josh Donaldson in 2015 and did not get the hardware. Advantage Judge but no lock, especially if voter fatigue is a real thing.

towerymt · 09-17-2025, 12:24 PM

If Ms win the west....Cal for sure?

cbeauch87 · 09-17-2025, 12:29 PM

Ohtani vs Perdomo is a crazy MVP comparison.

peterose4hof · 09-17-2025, 12:30 PM

If Cal hits 60 I think it gets real interesting.

LVDan · 09-17-2025, 12:30 PM

If Cal gets to 60 and the Ms make the playoffs it will be close.
and Babe

BoSoxFan1999 · 09-17-2025, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by peterose4hof

If Cal hits 60 I think it gets real interesting.

ONLY way Dumper even has a chance of winning MVP is if he can break Judge's HR record. That would also mean he's been smoking the ball down the stretch, so his counting stats would all look more impressive than where they stand today. Outside of hitting 63+, he's not winning MVP over Judge.

premium1981 · 09-17-2025, 12:48 PM

MVP thread. Clicked in and started reading....you lost me when I got to Geraldo.

BoSoxFan1999 · 09-17-2025, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by premium1981

MVP thread. Clicked in and started reading....you lost me when I got to Geraldo.

I mean 1) thinking Geraldo even has a chance at MVP, but then 2) opening sentence contains false info he has a higher WAR than Ohtani. lmao

Bosoxfan5990 · 09-17-2025, 01:04 PM

Does Geraldo Perdomo even have a thread on Blowout?

NYRE2PECT · 09-17-2025, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

Does Geraldo Perdomo even have a thread on Blowout?

Don't know, but he's done me a solid for my fantasy team all year

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jlzinck · 09-17-2025, 01:14 PM

I apologize as I do not pray at the altar of the Church of WAR.
I made a mistake in the OP was only compared Perdomo's batting WAR to Ohtani's batting WAR.

I humbly apologize for offending thee and have corrected it

Bosoxfan5990 · 09-17-2025, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

Does Geraldo Perdomo even have a thread on Blowout?

He does now.

dantheman514 · 09-17-2025, 01:33 PM

I think Cal will win MVP. Sure, Judge is having an amazing season, but Cal is having an historic season doing things no one has done before.

ThoseBackPages · 09-17-2025, 01:39 PM

if Cal can break the AL Home Run Record i think he has a shot of winning

hammertime · 09-17-2025, 01:53 PM

Should be Judge IMO. Definitely won't be unanimous either way.

hche · 09-17-2025, 01:57 PM

You know the funny part is Perdomo being mentioned before Schwarber (cough cough... the Schwarber HOF thread). LOL.

Statistically, Judge should win BUT Raleigh is passing the eye test and has a legit shot of winning.

As long as Ohtani is hitting his .280/50 and pitching, it will take a miracle season by someone else to unseat him as MVP

BoSoxFan1999 · 09-17-2025, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hche

As long as Ohtani is hitting his .280/50 and pitching, it will take a miracle season by someone else to unseat him as MVP

The fat lady is already signing RE: NL MVP race. Only question left is whether Ohtani will win unanimously again.

Boo · 09-17-2025, 02:12 PM

What about Schwarber?

premium1981 · 09-17-2025, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hche

You know the funny part is Perdomo being mentioned before Schwarber (cough cough... the Schwarber HOF thread). LOL.

Does Perdomo have a shot at the HOF? I think we can all agree that, yes, he does. He is having a better season than Schwarber and a lot of people already have his plaque being engraved. Perdomo = HOF lock.

tconte · 09-17-2025, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Boo

What about Schwarber?

I am a Phillies homer. Not a chance. Ohtani is a lock!

marl1220 · 09-17-2025, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dantheman514

I think Cal will win MVP. Sure, Judge is having an amazing season, but Cal is having an historic season doing things no one has done before.

Correction. No CATCHER.

And that's for HRs. He lags BIG TIME in almost every other category.

09-17-2025, 11:31 AM	#1
jlzinck Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cape Cod, MA Posts: 36,077 jlzinck jl_zinck	2025 MVP Races Ohtani will win even though he has a lower BATTING WAR than Geraldo Perdomo. As we all know Mr Ohtani also hurls the ball at opposing batters WAR was the crux of the hugely bitter battles here on Blowout in 2012 and 2013 when Troutheads and the members of the Church of WAR swear Trout was ROBBED both years against Miggy for MVP. It's escalating again this year with Judge and Cal. Judgeheads and Church of WAR members will say it's a landslide. Pre WAR era this would be a coin flip. Today I think it's a pretty comfortable win by Judge __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/jonzinck Last edited by jlzinck; 09-17-2025 at 01:15 PM.

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seanrs1 Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,898	Your information is not accurate. As of today... bWAR Ohtani-7.1 Perdomo-6.6 fWAR Ohtani-8.5 Perdomo-6.7 __________________ PC-#1 Ohtani PC-Acuna, Soto, Tatis Jr., JRod, Vladdy Jr. Starting to collect-Judge, Betts, Trout Bag holder-#1 Wander Franco, #2 Tatis Jr.

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f2tornado Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 2,334 f2tornado f2tornado	Ohtani is a near lock at this point. Judge has a 1.9 WAR advantage over Raleigh BUT Trout had a 2.1 advantage over Josh Donaldson in 2015 and did not get the hardware. Advantage Judge but no lock, especially if voter fatigue is a real thing.

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towerymt Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: VA Posts: 8,817	If Ms win the west....Cal for sure?

09-17-2025, 12:29 PM	#7
cbeauch87 Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Washington Posts: 1,095	Ohtani vs Perdomo is a crazy MVP comparison.

09-17-2025, 12:30 PM	#8
peterose4hof Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,375 peterose4hof	If Cal hits 60 I think it gets real interesting.

09-17-2025, 12:48 PM	#11
premium1981 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 11,385	MVP thread. Clicked in and started reading....you lost me when I got to Geraldo.

09-17-2025, 01:14 PM	#15
jlzinck Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cape Cod, MA Posts: 36,077 jlzinck jl_zinck	I apologize as I do not pray at the altar of the Church of WAR. I made a mistake in the OP was only compared Perdomo's batting WAR to Ohtani's batting WAR. I humbly apologize for offending thee and have corrected it __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/jonzinck

09-17-2025, 01:33 PM	#17
dantheman514 Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Motor City Posts: 1,107 dantheman514	I think Cal will win MVP. Sure, Judge is having an amazing season, but Cal is having an historic season doing things no one has done before.

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09-17-2025, 01:57 PM	#20
hche Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 6,300	You know the funny part is Perdomo being mentioned before Schwarber (cough cough... the Schwarber HOF thread). LOL. Statistically, Judge should win BUT Raleigh is passing the eye test and has a legit shot of winning. As long as Ohtani is hitting his .280/50 and pitching, it will take a miracle season by someone else to unseat him as MVP __________________ I would ban you but I have no sway or pull here.

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