Are all inserts created equal?

Poorboy · 01-10-2025, 07:57 PM

I was talking with Ohio lawyer in the Griffey thread and it
Hit me.
If inserts of a player of griffeys caliber numbered 1/350 from 2001
Are considered meh /average /who cares ?
What does that say about the 1/350 cards we covet and chase today ?
Is the difference they are still playing today so more eyes on the players?
What are the different eras of insert production and collecting?
So many seemingly subtle nuances to know as a collector.
Makes my head spin.
You would think 1/350 from 2001 is darned low for the time?
But apparently not.
As reflected in pricing…..
While the 1/350 today player vastly more expensive …..
Any clarification appreciated
By this noob and maybe others …..

Bosoxfan5990 · 01-10-2025, 08:02 PM

Is poorboythoughts.gov.www\poorboythoughts taken?

ThoseBackPages · 01-10-2025, 08:12 PM

they are not

Poorboy · 01-10-2025, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

they are not

Ok lol thanks

PuddleMonkey · 01-10-2025, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poorboy

I was talking with Ohio lawyer in the Griffey thread

I don't care what he told you it's never ok to buy Griffey cards in a Reds uniform.

Poorboy · 01-10-2025, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PuddleMonkey

I don't care what he told you it's never ok to buy Griffey cards in a Reds uniform.

Actually he was in mariners

MiamiMarlinsFan · 01-10-2025, 08:38 PM

Supply and demand.

Some inserts are rarer than others, and some inserts are more desired by collectors than others.

OhioLawyerF5 · 01-10-2025, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PuddleMonkey

I don't care what he told you it's never ok to buy Griffey cards in a Reds uniform.

Yes. Listen to puddlemonkey. Nobody buy Reds Griffey. Keep them cheap for me.

FYI OP, /350 isn't even considered all that rare in the 90s either.

Poorboy · 01-10-2025, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

Supply and demand.

Some inserts are rarer than others, and some inserts are more desired by collectors than others.

It just blows my mind that a 1/350 Griffey insert 2001
Can go for less than a numbered color 1/350 insert from today or recent card ?
You would think the hof one would smoke the recent card ?

Archangel1775 · 01-10-2025, 08:46 PM

Just like baseball players, the hobby is divided into eras. Early 90's serial numbered inserts are different than late 90's. Early 2000's inserts are different than late 2000's and so on.

Go look at 1991 and 1992 Donruss Elite inserts numbered to /10,000.

Your
head
will
explode

Sometimes its not about the serial number but the quality of insert.

hermanotarjeta · 01-10-2025, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

Just like baseball players, the hobby is divided into eras. Early 90's serial numbered inserts are different than late 90's. Early 2000's inserts are different than late 2000's and so on.

Go look at 1991 and 1992 Donruss Elite inserts numbered to /10,000.

Your
head
will
explode

Sometimes its not about the serial number but the quality of insert.

Yes, a 1991 donruss elite Rickey/10,000 will sell for $80-$140 whereas a 2023 chrome platinum Rickey/100 will sell for $10-$20.

mfw13 · 01-10-2025, 09:47 PM

It depends on the visual appeal and overall popularity of the card/set.

There are low-numbered inserts/autos that nobody cares about, and higher-numbered ones that are very popular.

One example of this would be Heritage Black Chromes (#'d to the year, and very popular) vs. Heritage Blacks (#'d /50, widely ignored).

TBTC Baseball · 01-10-2025, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Yes, a 1991 donruss elite Rickey/10,000 will sell for $80-$140 whereas a 2023 chrome platinum Rickey/100 will sell for $10-$20.

1991 we had 10 sets. Topps releases almost that in a month now.
Bowman
Donruss
Fleer
Fleer Ultra
Leaf
Score
Studio
Topps
Stadium Club
Upper Deck

More nostalgia for people who wanted an Elite, but could never pull one, or afford it then. That $100 for 91 Elite Rickey is going to have more emotional attachment than yet another /100 from one of....are we at 100 different annual Topps sets yet?

Onions · 01-10-2025, 10:03 PM

There also doesn't seem to be much creativity for "inserts" in today's releases. A ton of parallels, subset parallels, and different colors of very bland basic "insert" sets.

Really boring.

Visit the 90's insert thread and see what things were like 30 years ago. Some really cool stuff. 90's Basketball insert sets were especially wild.

magicpapa · 01-11-2025, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PuddleMonkey

I don't care what he told you it's never ok to buy Griffey cards in a Reds uniform.

PuddleMonkey · 01-11-2025, 01:13 AM

There's an exception for White Sox Griffey autos only.

magicpapa · 01-11-2025, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PuddleMonkey

There's an exception for White Sox Griffey autos only.

Poorboy · 01-11-2025, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by magicpapa

Wow! Verrrryyy nice !

Poorboy · 01-11-2025, 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magicpapa

And that is an all day delight as well !!!

OhioLawyerF5 · 01-11-2025, 07:10 AM

Don't care what anyone says, I love this card. 2001 was a big year for me in collecting and this card screams 2001.

Poorboy · 01-11-2025, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Don't care what anyone says, I love this card. 2001 was a big year for me in collecting and this card screams 2001.

That is very nice …

Poorboy · 01-11-2025, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onions

There also doesn't seem to be much creativity for "inserts" in today's releases. A ton of parallels, subset parallels, and different colors of very bland basic "insert" sets.

Really boring.

Visit the 90's insert thread and see what things were like 30 years ago. Some really cool stuff. 90's Basketball insert sets were especially wild.

So as I learn I have to ask have we gone away from insert sets
And moved more into paralell sets ?

Poorboy · 01-11-2025, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TBTC Baseball

1991 we had 10 sets. Topps releases almost that in a month now.
Bowman
Donruss
Fleer
Fleer Ultra
Leaf
Score
Studio
Topps
Stadium Club
Upper Deck

More nostalgia for people who wanted an Elite, but could never pull one, or afford it then. That $100 for 91 Elite Rickey is going to have more emotional attachment than yet another /100 from one of....are we at 100 different annual Topps sets yet?

No doubt a lot more sets
Do you think that “waters down” or dilutes the market ?

Poorboy · 01-11-2025, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

Is poorboythoughts.gov.www\poorboythoughts taken?

Lol I’m not sure

MiamiMarlinsFan · 01-11-2025, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poorboy

So as I learn I have to ask have we gone away from insert sets
And moved more into paralell sets ?

They’re still separate things with separate collector groups.

In general, if some tells me they have a base set of 2023 Topps, my yawn would be heard around the block. But a complete #/2023 gold set? That’s pretty boss. A #/72 black complete set? Whoa…

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Poorboy Banned - PBM Join Date: Dec 2024 Posts: 1,635	Are all inserts created equal? I was talking with Ohio lawyer in the Griffey thread and it Hit me. If inserts of a player of griffeys caliber numbered 1/350 from 2001 Are considered meh /average /who cares ? What does that say about the 1/350 cards we covet and chase today ? Is the difference they are still playing today so more eyes on the players? What are the different eras of insert production and collecting? So many seemingly subtle nuances to know as a collector. Makes my head spin. You would think 1/350 from 2001 is darned low for the time? But apparently not. As reflected in pricing….. While the 1/350 today player vastly more expensive ….. Any clarification appreciated By this noob and maybe others …..

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Archangel1775 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cali baby! Posts: 21,861	Just like baseball players, the hobby is divided into eras. Early 90's serial numbered inserts are different than late 90's. Early 2000's inserts are different than late 2000's and so on. Go look at 1991 and 1992 Donruss Elite inserts numbered to /10,000. Your head will explode Sometimes its not about the serial number but the quality of insert. __________________ *There are the intangibles that set someone apart from the pack.So the blur isn't your inability to see his greatness, it's merely the inability to measure it.* Last edited by Archangel1775; 01-10-2025 at 08:48 PM.

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MiamiMarlinsFan Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Florida Posts: 13,615	Supply and demand. Some inserts are rarer than others, and some inserts are more desired by collectors than others.

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mfw13 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 17,486	It depends on the visual appeal and overall popularity of the card/set. There are low-numbered inserts/autos that nobody cares about, and higher-numbered ones that are very popular. One example of this would be Heritage Black Chromes (#'d to the year, and very popular) vs. Heritage Blacks (#'d /50, widely ignored).

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Onions Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 2,221 onion99	There also doesn't seem to be much creativity for "inserts" in today's releases. A ton of parallels, subset parallels, and different colors of very bland basic "insert" sets. Really boring. Visit the 90's insert thread and see what things were like 30 years ago. Some really cool stuff. 90's Basketball insert sets were especially wild.

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PuddleMonkey Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 4,214	There's an exception for White Sox Griffey autos only.

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OhioLawyerF5 Member Join Date: Feb 2022 Posts: 7,087	Don't care what anyone says, I love this card. 2001 was a big year for me in collecting and this card screams 2001.