🏈 🏈 🏈 2024 EVERYTHING COLLEGE FOOTBALL Utopian Discussion Thread 🏈 🏈 🏈

[TheFrenzy]

[the mesiah]

Man Georgia sure did prove they were the #1 team after that national championship run! Kirby smart is almost half way to Nick Saban.

[Fenway55]

On my way to the Cotton Bowl to see Ohio State vs. Georgia in the Semis!! I'll come back with a report after the game!!

[TheFrenzy]

Texas is BACK!!!

[therealcjc33]

I’m really intrigued to see how Texas and Oklahoma do in the SEC.

[TheFrenzy]

Sticking this on the front page:

Never forget that as recently as December 3, 2023, the college football playoff committee gave the finger to the concept of the "making the games matter" and the "integrity" of the regular season.

- Neither Georgia or Ohio State were considered eliminated despite losing clear elimination games against their rivals at the end of the season until the selections were actually in.

- An undefeated P5 conference champion (Florida State) was dropped behind two 1-loss teams (including one from the SEC—a conference the ACC outplayed 6-4 during the season) and left out of the playoffs.

OSU-UM didn't matter because it took Texas winning its conference championship to actually eliminate the Buckeyes.

UGA-BAMA didn't matter because it took the committee ruling against the Bulldogs to actually eliminate them.

None of the games Florida State played (including beating two SEC teams) mattered as they went undefeated and were left out of the playoffs. Regardless of what the FSU-UGA outcome is, the Noles already had their entire season invalidated.

[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Sticking this on the front page:

Never forget that as recently as December 3, 2023, the college football playoff committee gave the finger to the concept of the "making the games matter" and the "integrity" of the regular season.

- Neither Georgia or Ohio State were considered eliminated despite losing clear elimination games against their rivals at the end of the season until the selections were actually in.

- An undefeated P5 conference champion (Florida State) was dropped behind two 1-loss teams (including one from the SEC—a conference the ACC outplayed 6-4 during the season) and left out of the playoffs.

OSU-UM didn't matter because it took Texas winning its conference championship to actually eliminate the Buckeyes.

UGA-BAMA didn't matter because it took the committee ruling against the Bulldogs to actually eliminate them.

None of the games Florida State played (including beating two SEC teams) mattered as they went undefeated and were left out of the playoffs. Regardless of what the FSU-UGA outcome is, the Noles already had their entire season invalidated.

I did predict FSU getting screwed last night.

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

I did predict FSU getting screwed last night.

Their failure to brand themselves as the #1 land grant university came back to bite them.

[TheFrenzy]

Just in case anyone forgets where we were at the start of this day:

[TheFrenzy]

Also for future reference, we're sitting here on December 6th, 2023, and the Orange Bowl just canceled its news conference for coaches Kirby Smart and Mike Norvall. Meanwhile players for Georgia and FSU are already opting out of the game and the most popular opinion on social media is that FSU should forfeit the game.

Imagine telling someone from 2003 that we've got a NY6 bowl game pitting two teams who were undefeated in the regular season against each other and no one cares at all. In fact, they're angry the game is even being played.

This is why the modern college football landscape needs an expanded playoff.

[AwesomeBrian]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Also for future reference, we're sitting here on December 6th, 2023, and the Orange Bowl just canceled its news conference for coaches Kirby Smart and Mike Norvall. Meanwhile players for Georgia and FSU are already opting out of the game and the most popular opinion on social media is that FSU should forfeit the game.

Imagine telling someone from 2003 that we've got a NY6 bowl game pitting two teams who were undefeated in the regular season against each other and no one cares at all. In fact, they're angry the game is even being played.

This is why the modern college football landscape needs an expanded playoff.

Would be fun if there was a rule that if you didn't put forth your best possible roster (minus draft kids/suspended/academic ineligibles) you are banned from any Bowl game the following year

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by AwesomeBrian

Would be fun if there was a rule that if you didn't put forth your best possible roster (minus draft kids/suspended/academic ineligibles) you are banned from any Bowl game the following year

At this point every major non CFP bowl needs an asterisk for the depleted rosters.

[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

At this point every major non CFP bowl needs an asterisk for the depleted rosters.

It's become a total farce.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

It's become a total farce.

NIL and the transfer portal have made college football a total farce.....

[bigdog2003]

Originally Posted by AwesomeBrian

Would be fun if there was a rule that if you didn't put forth your best possible roster (minus draft kids/suspended/academic ineligibles) you are banned from any Bowl game the following year

There is no way that would work.

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by bigdog2003

There is no way that would work.

Maybe if they combined it with NIL or something. Contract with and pay the players directly for their participation.

[bigdog2003]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Maybe if they combined it with NIL or something. Contract with and pay the players directly for their participation.

What would stop a bunch of players from entering the portal, not playing in the game because they are in the portal, then deciding to stay at their school? There are games that could be played to meet requirements without punishment.

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by bigdog2003

What would stop a bunch of players from entering the portal, not playing in the game because they are in the portal, then deciding to stay at their school? There are games that could be played to meet requirements without punishment.

I think the most direct approach would be to write it into players scholarships.

Skip the bowl? Pay back your scholarship plus interest.

[weatherwarrior]

It would be cool if they used the 12 spot in the new playoff to be a play in game between the two highest rated non power 5 schools. That way, the Tulane 's and liberties of the world could get it. Also, limiting a conference to 3 teams max would help from SEC or Big10 hogging a bunch of spots.

Hopefully, we will go to a straight sweet 16 type of tourney.

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[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

I think the most direct approach would be to write it into players scholarships.

Skip the bowl? Pay back your scholarship plus interest.

$EC would never

[bigdog2003]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

I think the most direct approach would be to write it into players scholarships.

Skip the bowl? Pay back your scholarship plus interest.

Let's face it, any bowl game not in the playoff is a joke. No other division of college football has meaningless bowl games outside of their playoff structure (aside from FCS having the Celebration Bowl, but that is to crown the HBCU "National Champion"). If you are a college kid, does the thought of playing in the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl in freezing cold Boise appeal to you? If you are a NFL prospect, does the idea of playing in a meaningless Pop Tart Bowl where you could suffer an injury appeal to you?

I really think you might start seeing some of the top of the line prospects call it a season once their team is out of the playoff race in coming years. No reason to risk future money.

I don't blame the kids at all for sitting. Somebody is getting rich off of all the crap bowls and it ain't the players. No reason to put your body on the line in the Bad Boys Mowers Gasparilla Bowl.

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by weatherwarrior

It would be cool if they used the 12 spot in the new playoff to be a play in game between the two highest rated non power 5 schools. That way, the Tulane 's and liberties of the world could get it. Also, limiting a conference to 3 teams max would help from SEC or Big10 hogging a bunch of spots.

Hopefully, we will go to a straight sweet 16 type of tourney.

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16 is probably the end goal.

And what will drive the expansion is the fact that soon the B1G 10 and SEC will be so large and full of "top tier" teams that they will see the 7-8 spots they take up in the 12-team playoff as too restricting.

Of course, by 2027 the B1G and SEC will have themselves split into East/West divisions that effectively function as conferences.

[bigdog2003]

Originally Posted by weatherwarrior

It would be cool if they used the 12 spot in the new playoff to be a play in game between the two highest rated non power 5 schools. That way, the Tulane 's and liberties of the world could get it. Also, limiting a conference to 3 teams max would help from SEC or Big10 hogging a bunch of spots.

Hopefully, we will go to a straight sweet 16 type of tourney.

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The only issue with the conference limit is the mega conferences start next year and may continue to grow. I see a world where we have Bigwhatevertheydecide and the SEC as the big 2, with smaller schools in the MAC, WAC, CUSA, NBCDA, WYFFSW and whatever else they come up with.

[jplarson]

How about set it up like European soccer where say 2 schools a year can get relegated to a lesser conferences? Incentivise those barely worthy schools to be more like Bama, Georgia, and Clamson or they have to go play in the same conference as Liberty.

[bigdog2003]

Originally Posted by jplarson

How about set it up like European soccer where say 2 schools a year can get relegated to a lesser conferences? Incentivise those barely worthy schools to be more like Bama, Georgia, and Clamson or they have to go play in the same conference as Liberty.

I say do away with conferences all together. Schedule whoever you want, whenever you want. What real reason is there for conferences going forward?