Bryce Young a successful NFL quarterback?

[meandsharon11]

Why do so many analysts rank him above all other quarterbacks as an NFL prospect? History has proven that a sub 6 foot qb fundamentally has a lower success ceiling. Russell Wilson is the unicorn of the group, but even his success was heavily dependent on running gains and making throws from outside of the pocket.

Reports on Youngs hight is 5’9 1/2 to 5’11.

Does anyone else think this?

Will Bryce Young be a great NFL qb?

[jplarson]

Drew Brees also had a decent enough career. Kyler Murray did well enough to get paid and Doug Flutie had his own breakfast cereal (Flutie Flakes!) It's possible to overcome humble physical metrics.

[foleylion08]

Mugsy Bogues. Spud Webb. Barry Sanders. Darren Sproles, the aforementioned Brees and Murray.

Little guys can make it on the big stage.

He needs to add some bulk to his frame, but I wouldn't worry about height being an issue. His offensive line(s) at Alabama averaged over 6'5.

His success in the pros, as with most quarterbacks, will depend largely on where he goes and what the organization does to surround him with talent.

Going 2 overall to Houston for example, would be less desirable than Indianapolis at 4.

I think if anyone could overcome the size discrepancy, I'd take him. Poise in the pocket is outstanding and ability to keep his eyes downfield and go through his progressions (multiple times) is something coaches love.

Quarterbacks who are mobile are great, but if you look at Super Bowl winners, Mahomes and RW3 are the only ones with above average scrambling ability to win a ring since Steve Young.

[SupermanBrandon]

Invest?

[jplarson]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Invest?

Elitely!

[TheFrenzy]

I'm just here for the enlightened and informed commentary.

[jplarson]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

I'm just here for the enlightened and informed commentary.

That is not in short supply here!

[oplum29]

i like him as a college QB, but i don't see him really transitioning over to the NFL successfully as a top pick. to me, back in the day, he's a mid-round pick.

but for some reason, these QBs nowadays are getting massive bumps to 1st round talent. reminds me of Blaine Gabbert and EJ Manuel...those dudes were not 1st round talents, but idk what the hell the NFL saw in them.

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by oplum29

i like him as a college QB, but i don't see him really transitioning over to the NFL successfully as a top pick. to me, back in the day, he's a mid-round pick.

but for some reason, these QBs nowadays are getting massive bumps to 1st round talent. reminds me of Blaine Gabbert and EJ Manuel...those dudes were not 1st round talents, but idk what the hell the NFL saw in them.

Currently it is the five years of team control is what they see. They dont see $100 million #1 overall picks anymore.

If a team has a High Second Round grade on a QB, get him 29-32 and have more control

[oplum29]

Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Currently it is the five years of team control is what they see. They dont see $100 million #1 overall picks anymore.

If a team has a High Second Round grade on a QB, get him 29-32 and have more control

yeah that makes sense too. but i also think that's why you see a good size chunk of these guys not making it in the league or just not living up to those 1st round expectations.

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by oplum29

yeah that makes sense too. but i also think that's why you see a good size chunk of these guys not making it in the league or just not living up to those 1st round expectations.

Think the success rate is about what it was beforehand for 1st rounders last time I saw a breakdown

[Grid]

Originally Posted by jplarson

That is not in short supply here!

Bryce Young Joke?

Also, for everyone that brings up Drew Brees being short too, he was/is just over 6' tall. Russell Wilson was/is taller as well.

Bryce is 5'10. Even middling talent, like Murray & Flutie are still his height or slightly taller.

I dont know where OP got that he was "5’9 1/2 to 5’11" He measured exactly 5-foot-10 1/8 inches at the combine.

Not saying being short for a QB will doom him, but it certainly wont help him. Neither will him being so scrawny.

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by oplum29

i like him as a college QB, but i don't see him really transitioning over to the NFL successfully as a top pick. to me, back in the day, he's a mid-round pick.

but for some reason, these QBs nowadays are getting massive bumps to 1st round talent. reminds me of Blaine Gabbert and EJ Manuel...those dudes were not 1st round talents, but idk what the hell the NFL saw in them.

Two words come to mind: KYLER MURRAY another short guy that looked set to be a superstar in the NFL, but has looked pretty meh. He's fun to watch run around, but his video game skills are not transferring over to wins or great stats. The height is certainly going to be an issue for Bryce Young as far as seeing lanes to throw in, batted balls, etc My money is on Stroud being the best overall QB in this class, and his height certainly helps him

[bgriffin22]

I don't see it working out, but then again I am just your average run of the mill armchair QB...

[oldgoldy97]

Can he do a back flip? That is the true measure.

[foleylion08]

Mike Garafolo

One of the big takeaways from Bryce Young’s pro day is evaluators noted how high his release is and that he stands tall in his delivery. Doesn’t bend much. Watching him live, he throws bigger than he is. Concerns with his measurables are about weight, not height.

[Grid]

Originally Posted by Joe Thomas

:When you're a short quarterback, you have a hard time seeing the middle of the field because your offensive linemen are that much taller than you. You either have to be really good, like Drew Brees was, at being able to drop a ball into a small trash can in the middle of the field, predicting where your receivers are going to be because you can't see them and you're going off of instinct and going off of what you practiced, or you've got to be able to get outside of the pocket. The problem is, when you're a slight quarterback like Bryce Young is, when you get outside the pocket, eventually you're gonna get hit:

Standing tall at delivery, or not bending much, isnt going to be overly helpful against the best defensive talent on earth. Which is what he will now be facing each week.

[foleylion08]

Originally Posted by Grid

Standing tall at delivery, or not bending much, isnt going to be overly helpful against the best defensive talent on earth. Which is what he will now be facing each week.

Pretty sure standing tall at delivery and not bending much is exactly what is going to be overly helpful.

It's being under 200 pounds that hurts.

[Grid]

Originally Posted by foleylion08

Pretty sure standing tall at delivery and not bending much is exactly what is going to be overly helpful.

It's being under 200 pounds that hurts.

Being under 200 hurts for sure. But he will need to throw around those D-Linemen. So stating he stands tall and doesnt bend, isnt always a good thing. His game doesnt have those silly Mahomes side throws and bendy passes that he could use being a shorty.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by foleylion08

Mugsy Bogues. Spud Webb. Barry Sanders. Darren Sproles, the aforementioned Brees and Murray.

Little guys can make it on the big stage.

He needs to add some bulk to his frame, but I wouldn't worry about height being an issue. His offensive line(s) at Alabama averaged over 6'5.

His success in the pros, as with most quarterbacks, will depend largely on where he goes and what the organization does to surround him with talent.

Going 2 overall to Houston for example, would be less desirable than Indianapolis at 4.

I think if anyone could overcome the size discrepancy, I'd take him. Poise in the pocket is outstanding and ability to keep his eyes downfield and go through his progressions (multiple times) is something coaches love.

Quarterbacks who are mobile are great, but if you look at Super Bowl winners, Mahomes and RW3 are the only ones with above average scrambling ability to win a ring since Steve Young.

You’re a Bama guy so you might have a better idea of this than me.

How was he working the middle of the field. Offensive line height means little, tbh. I’m more concerned about field vision between the hashes. That’s is Kyler’s weakness, was always Wilson’s weakness and even Baker to some extent.

[oldgoldy97]

Think if Bryce had gone to tOSU. He might as well quit before trying.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

You’re a Bama guy so you might have a better idea of this than me.

How was he working the middle of the field. Offensive line height means little, tbh. I’m more concerned about field vision between the hashes. That’s is Kyler’s weakness, was always Wilson’s weakness and even Baker to some extent.

They need Sam “I see dead people” Darnold vision.

[foleylion08]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

You’re a Bama guy so you might have a better idea of this than me.

How was he working the middle of the field. Offensive line height means little, tbh. I’m more concerned about field vision between the hashes. That’s is Kyler’s weakness, was always Wilson’s weakness and even Baker to some extent.

His field vision is above average imo and from what I've read from scouts. Head is always up, always moving through his progressions. The comparison to Steph Curry has become popular. Pocket presence is some of the best I've seen.

[Archangel1775]

The dudes not taking hits from Ray Lewis or James Harrison, he'll be alright.

Someone already mentioned, his OL in college averaged 6'5. His OL in high school was about the same.

[asujbl]

Where is the poll?